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The Dream

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posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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This dream was so weird. I was always prophetical , most of the time my prophecies were right. I had a dream this week , and I find it... odd.. I feel like it has a huge meaning , something that can change not a one life.

First off there were two huge ships that used to carry from one-two airplanes. They were both in the ocean, swimming towards some goal. It was a storm , waves were restless and wind was strong. Suddenly a ship got hit by lightning and slowly sank into the ocean , while the other one continued on to it's goal.

I find it disturbing that the first though of it's meaning was that one ship represented half of population , while the other one another half. I find it weirder that the half slowly sank into it's oblivion , which I find pretty realistic as well. But the sudden shock meant that something happened.

Help me solve this riddle



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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In my opinion, the signs you receive are according to your consciousness so therefore, they mean what YOU interpret them to be. So, if I were to guess, you perceived what you did for you are distorted towards those who are kind, good and benevolent, for you imagine HALF the population survived, while other died.... i'm assuming you're assuming that other half was the "evil" doers of our society? The living ship representing the good, righteous side?

Perfectly understandable.... however, I, personally, would have taken it for a very similar sign, although, I'd have understood it to be two time lines, two possibilities, if you will, at one point, one will out-do the other. Not representing two portions of humanity, but humanity as one whole experiencing either of two possibilities in possible outcomes? Judging by HOW the race was won, however, is, indeed, odd. As if "external, unknown force" vanquished the boat, forcing the OTHER boat (one I'm guessing you mean the positive half of the population, which I'll hypothesize is the positive time line/possibility that we chose to live out) to go on. So, possibly, the whole purpose of dream was we are on a two way possibility; enslavement or enlightenment. We will win, not by choice or our own actions, but maybe, by a superior external force?

That's how I, personally, would perceive it and is, strictly in accordance with how I perceive things according to my consciousness. Hope I could provide SOME assistance.... good luck to you

[edit on 11/19/2009 by RadiatorOfTheLight]



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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What did you do before going to sleep? What events, even minor ones, occurred throughout your day?


I'm not making fun of you, please understand. But usually whenever I have an unusual dream, I can generally trace it back to some activity or discussion I'd had earlier. It doesn't even have to be a mind-boggling event. I once had a dream that the Russians took over Wal-mart; the few 'survivors' were holed up in the sports section and planning a counter-offensive involving tennis rackets and tube socks. I woke up thinking "wtf?" and wondering if it was some sort of prophecy....only to remember that earlier in the day I'd read the back of "One Day in the Life of Ivan Dneitzvitch" (sp?)

So perhaps your dream really is a reflection of something that occurred during the day....

Either that, or let me know which boat I should get on!



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by setuxas
This dream was so weird. I was always prophetical , most of the time my prophecies were right. I had a dream this week , and I find it... odd.. I feel like it has a huge meaning , something that can change not a one life.

First off there were two huge ships that used to carry from one-two airplanes. They were both in the ocean, swimming towards some goal. It was a storm , waves were restless and wind was strong. Suddenly a ship got hit by lightning and slowly sank into the ocean , while the other one continued on to it's goal.

I find it disturbing that the first though of it's meaning was that one ship represented half of population , while the other one another half. I find it weirder that the half slowly sank into it's oblivion , which I find pretty realistic as well. But the sudden shock meant that something happened.

Help me solve this riddle


Dreams about the sea are strong signals from the unconscious mind. If you dream of being lost at sea, you are unsure about your feelings for a certain person. A stormy sea or one with sea monsters suggests confusion and anxiety in the dreamer. On the other hand, a peaceful sea suggests the dreamer is comfortable with herself and her sexuality.

Ship
If you dream of being on a ship, you should listen to your instincts in waking life - they are powerful allies for helping you deal with everyday problems. If you dreamed of a ship sinking, you will soon encounter a situation in which you will have to defend your reputation.

Prophetic dreams is something I've never put any stock into whatsoever.



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Its all in ur head man.. its what u make of it... Ur spending too much time on ats..



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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The ships clearly represent the population , since I can feel that there were secrets in both ships , something hidden away from everything , while I don't know if there were good and evil sides. It was like I was observing the ships from many angles , mostly from above. If everything is put in place then there would be a hypothesis that Nature took half of the population with the superior external forces. I also believe the ocean represents time , and the storm and lightning - Nature. The ships represent people. This is how I think. Also , It was like I saw myself a little bit older on the still flowing ship which could hint us that it will be soon.



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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Well , I don't remeber everything , but I remeberthat I have done nothing including prophecies , doomsdays etc during that day.

@spungy

I had prophetic dreams before , that really happened. I had a dream that I raised my furnace's temperature to 55C and I though it as if not possible. During day time , the thing happened , I freaked out and the dream flashed before my eyes.



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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Hi just a quick question to Dr.Jay and Rad
Ok recently I've started learning the Vedic chants ect, So a few nights ago I was falling asleep listening to a few chants. I had a little dream......my hand was infront of a Cobra's mouth and it was about to strike then a hand tapped the snake on the head rendering it docile and a voice said, "would you put your hand infront of a Cobra's mouth without learning to charm it first"? at that point I entered a deeper sleep. It gets stranger trust me.......I woke up the next day to a dog barking but as it let out 3 loud barks I heard also Look!,Look!,Look! within the bark. No I haven't been on ATS long so it isn't exposure lol......
If I interpret these I think its telling me I have to learn Vedic chanting properly eg. Breathing Properly then onto the chanting and Sanskrit ect.
I just wanted to se if you had an angle on it.
Yes I do have dreams that have come true as mentioned in the Prophetic Dream Thread.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by DreamerOracle]



posted on Jan, 25 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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wow i thought i was the only one(there is never only 1 i guess). i would always dream of something happinig like i could litersly see people from my past as futre selfs and now that time has gone by i can actulay prove it, it is just bizarre and totaly unexplainable! and maybe depending on where you where on the boat could help too. (bow or rear?)

[edit on 25-1-2010 by Sazak97]



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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I was in the bow , I clearly remeber that. The weirdest thing though is that when the ship was hit by lightning (other ship) the people there didn't even worry , it was like they didn't care. Of course , I didn't see the whole army in there , I just saw maybe 5 people.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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I was in the bow , I clearly remeber that. The weirdest thing though is that when the ship was hit by lightning (other ship) the people there didn't even worry , it was like they didn't care. Of course , I didn't see the whole army in there , I just saw maybe 5 people.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 06:25 AM
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hmm. could represent the goverment and they fail and are supposed to... and the ships are heading towards salvation. but its all about perception. If you have a spirit guide try to ask them what it means.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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IN the astronomical sciences, the future may often be accurately prophesied; for instance, the movements of the stars, the return of comets after their vast journeys through space, the coming of eclipses; or in chemistry, the periodic law by which the existence of many new elements was predicted. Contrary to the popular belief, however, it is extremely doubtful if dreams can in any way foretell future events. Freud states as follows concerning this point:

"The belief in prophetic dreams numbers many adherents, because it can be supported by the fact that some things really do happen in the future as they were previously foretold by the wish of the dream.

But in this there is little to be wondered at, as many far-reaching deviations may be regularly demonstrated between a dream and the fulfillment, which the credulity of the dreamer prefers to neglect."

For instance, many people have dreamed of some burning ambition being realized, and some time later this ambition is fulfilled in reality. The wish has thus been fulfilled both in the dream and in actual life. From this we must not conclude that the dream possesses any prophetic function, or that it can in any way forecast the future, but one must interpret both the dream and its later fulfillment as being merely the realized wish. The wish produced the dream, and in the ambition of every-day life to fulfill this wish there was a constant striving, and finally it was actually fulfilled. The dream took place because a dream never concerns itself with trifles, and consequently the fulfillment of the wish had a strong personal motive.

Sometimes, also, we dream of a certain person whom we have never met before and several days later or even the next day, lo! to our surprise, we meet the individual. The dream is not prophetic. What occurs is this. The strange individual dreamed of is usually a condensation, like a composite photograph, and on meeting the actual stranger, we unconsciously take one element of this composite dream figure and apply it to the stranger. Thence arises the illusion, for it is only an illusion, of having met a total stranger, who had been previously seen only in a dream. In fact, if such accounts as these be carefully analyzed, it will be found that the person dreamed of never actually resembled the person later met.

During sleep, also, the brain admits and is influenced by impressions received by the various organs of the body, impressions sometimes of so slight a character that they are not felt in the waking state. In morbid conditions of certain organs, therefore, it is possible that in their early stages these conditions, which are not noticed at all by the waking consciousness, may give rise to various types of dreams, particularly dreams of anxiety. Medical writers have long admitted this significance of the dream thus protecting sleep and drawing the attention of the sleeper to morbid disturbances of various organs. Freud, who seems to have thoroughly reviewed the literature on the subject, states as follows concerning these types of dreams:

"Serious disturbances of the internal organs apparently act as inciters of dreams in a considerable number of persons. Attention is quite generally called to the frequency of anxiety dreams in the disease of the heart and lungs. . . . Tissie even assumes that the diseased organs impress upon the dream content their characteristic features. The dreams of persons suffering from disease of the heart are generally very brief and terminate in a terrified awakening; the situation of death under terrible circumstances almost always plays a part in their content. Those suffering from disease of the lungs dream of suffocation, of being crowded, and of flight; and a great many of them are subject to the well-known nightmare which, by the way, Boerner has succeeded in producing experimentally by lying on the face and closing up the openings of the respiratory organs. In digestive disturbances the dream contains ideas from the sphere of enjoyment and disgust. Finally, the influence of sexual excitement on the dream content is perceptible enough in every one's experience, and lends the strongest support to the entire theory of the dream excitation through organ sensation." 1

Of course attempts at such diagnostic performance from a dream are full of disappointment and fraught with the greatest danger.

1 "The Interpretation of Dreams," pp. 87-88.

Sometimes a temporary physical disturbance may act as the inciter of a dream, but becomes so disguised by the censor for the purpose of protecting sleep and thus preventing awakening, that the disturbance itself remains unknown to the sleeper until he awakens. A pretty example is the following dream of a young married woman. She dreamed that she was feeling ill and consulted a woman physician, who said to her: "You are worrying about something, a man by the name of X." The analysis of this brief dream is interesting. On awakening, she found that the left eye was swollen and inflamed apparently from some insect bite during the night. The name of the eye specialist whom both she and her husband had consulted in the past, and in whom she had great confidence, was Doctor X., the name being identical with the one in the dream. Thus the pain and discomfort of the swollen eye sent a disguised substitute in the form of a distorted and unrecognizable dream into the consciousness of the sleeper, so as not to awaken her. The dream was really a desire or wish on the part of the censor to protect the sleeper, and this wish was fulfilled by translating a bodily discomfort into a meaningless dream. The dream therefore did not disturb sleep; in reality it protected it. The discrepancy concerning the absence of pain or discomfort in the dream is readily explained when we remember that the emotion of discomfort belonged to the latent content and not to the manifest content of the dream.

A dream may often solve situations, important crises, and mental conflicts which may baffle one in the waking life. The situation and the conflict are cleared up in the dream by a kind of unconscious incubation of wishes, and only in this sense the dream may be said to be prophetic.

An example of this is the following. A young woman, after her betrothal, began to be troubled by worries, perplexities, and mental conflicts concerning the decisive step she had taken, wondered if she really loved her betrothed, and whether or not it might be well to break the engagement. One night she had the following dream:

Dream. She seemed to be in a large house, partly clear and partly dimly recognized; her fiance was there, only in the dream he seemed to be her husband. Her mother-in-law was also present, knitting, and paid not the slightest attention to her. Then it seemed as though she came down-stairs with her hair disarranged and wearing a light dressing-gown.

Analysis. This is a pretty example of a prophetic wish dream, which solved the situation which was baffling her and causing the perplexity in her waking life. In the dream, her mental conflict is cleared up, the problem has been solved for her by her secondary consciousness during sleep. In the dream, she felt thoroughly at home in the house, although it did appear strange; no one noticed her, and yet her feelings were not hurt or ruffled; and she was able to go about clothed in a dressing-gown without the slightest embarrassment. Now this situation could only have taken place where there was great intimacy, and such intimacy could only have been brought about if she were a member of her fiance's family, that is, actually married to him. The dream is a wish dream of family intimacy. Therefore, in spite of her doubts, she really wanted to marry this particular person, to become a member of his family. Her problems are solved in the dream; her real, unconscious wish has neutralized her perplexity and is fulfilled. But since the fulfillment can only be brought about in the future, the dream is prophetic only in the sense that her wish for a happy marriage is projected into the future and the perplexing situation solved, in the form of a dream.

I cannot leave the subject of prophetic dreams without another example of practical medical interest. A five-year-old boy had the following dream:

Dream. A number of dogs came to the door of his house, and one little black dog actually knocked at the door. As he was coming up the steps, he grew larger and larger and was changed into a large and fierce white dog. Then he came up to the little boy and started to eat him, a procedure which was not objected to, because the little boy felt that he would not remain in the dog's mouth very long.

This is a typical anxiety dream which often gives rise to nightmares in children. From this dream a temporary anxiety hysteria was predicted in the child, a nervous disturbance which actually took place a short time later. The boy became dissatisfied because he did not care to live in the country; he wanted the excitement of the city. His uncle, who was a physician, lived in the city, and the boy had visited him shortly before the dream took place. Therefore a simulated illness which later took place, in which he claimed that he had an earache, pretended to cough, etc., were all for the purpose of again visiting his uncle. The symptoms completely dis-appeared within a few days, on advising the parents to use purposeful neglect of the child's complaints.

The point which I wish to emphasize by this brief recital is this: that the morbid anxiety produced both the dream and hysteria; both had the same mechanism, and from the dream it was possible to predict with a fair amount of certainty the onset of psychoneurotic symptoms. In fact, these symptoms were actually predicted at the time of the dream, and several days before the symptoms themselves had made their actual appearance.

I am very skeptical concerning prophetic dreams which actually foretell the future.

From a strictly scientific standpoint, such an interpretation would be very superficial in that it did not take into full cognizance all the complex factors which may produce a dream. For instance, it must be proven, in the analysis of such a dream, that the event "foretold" in the future never existed as a wish in either the conscious or unconscious thought of the dreamer. In my experience, I have yet failed to find such a genuine prophetic dream.



posted on Jan, 26 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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So DrJay Explain this......I keep a dream diary.

1993 I'm married and have been for 2 years....I have a dream....My wifes in the passenger seat of a small white ford Fiesta and driving the car was a fat guy. They were driving around a road called Wetmore Road, it's an old Bus Terminus.

Its now 2001 I find out my wife has been having an affair for 5 years. She leaves and it comes to collecting her cloths ect.....along she comes in a small white fiesta with her boyfriend who's fat. Later I have my daughter for the weekend visits and she tells me that her boyfriend is a Bus Driver.

To me this isn't my own mind or anxieties as I had only been married 2 years and was expecting my 2nd daughter in 93 it was a happy time. It wasn't a wish of mine to have my wife to commit adultry. I just dont buy into the "Dream Wish".



[edit on 26-1-2010 by DreamerOracle]



posted on Jan, 27 2010 @ 03:44 AM
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Good point Dream Oracle



posted on Jan, 27 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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wow... thats all i have to say.



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