WARNING: be wary for fast disclosure

hi

Alot of threads have been popping up about disclosure/alien life.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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Now we of all people know that what is happening here is fishy at the least. Governemets have silenced people in every way possible for the information not to leak. They have done everything in there power to stop the word from getting out.

And now suddenly scientists start being serious about this after laughing in our faces for it? I mean there is an article of a scientist that beliefs alien life will be more likely found on our own planet then outer space!

What the hell!

I know it is exciting and Im glad too that it is comming closer, but please be wary of the blitz disclosure.

something aint right, I mean they are already demonising the aliens and we havn't even spoken to one!

[edit on 25-1-2010 by colloredbrothers]

Project blue beam anyone? Or a program of similar nature?

Originally posted by zetamafia911
Project blue beam anyone? Or a program of similar nature?

I think they are definitly up to something but what exactly I have no clue, although I think it is something to demonize the aliens. Because remember, aliens will only come into contact with us if enough people are ready, and if they keep us in fear of them we wouldn't want contact resulting in "isolation" from the rest of the alien brothers making us easier to control.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by colloredbrothers]

reply to post by colloredbrothers


I agree completely. In my experiences with talking with people, they envision a "mass effect" kind of community along with the induction of human beings into such a "galactic community". I tend to believe that the gulf in our intelligences would be such a major hindrance, interaction on that scale would be nearly impossible for our race.

I really think that something ginormous is going to be happening here soon. It just makes the most sense to me, based on my intuition.

Have you been following the whole Shawn and Clay Pickering thing? Top secret UN meetings, multiple alien races, etc. If they do have a top ranking source leaking info to them. I feel its part of the agenda of disclosure. Part of that, " keep your friends close but your enemies closer" line of thinking. Some of that stuff is so out there how could a bar tender make it up? I'm not saying I buy it hook line and sinker but the UN seems a logical place for disclosure/alien contact to start. And there were murmurings of Alien/UN interactions before the Pickerings came along with their source "A". When it comes to the Alien presence on Earth, if one exists, nothing would surprise me. After all its all "Alien". We can't judge what would or wouldn't be plausible when we are only one little species of turnip in a giant garden, filled with watermelons, cucumbers, beans, and tomatoes.

I am convinced the Greys are here exploiting our gene pools doing what they want and the feds know about it.

I am starting to lean towards there being other species in cahoots with small privileged international/military contingents who are making future plans for our progress/eviloution with the hows and whens of disclosure being one of their concerns.

I think you can rest assured that when disclosure does come out, the story will be a "frosted lucky charms, they're magically delicious" version that will do little more than tell us aliens exist, present us with a nice friendly PR Nordic "figure head" who will answer all our questions and assure us they are here for our benefit not there's. Then I imagine the conspiracy community will explode with speculation of their true agendas.

This is little more then far out speculation on my part, and not hard core facts, I know. Just a peak into my gray basket of "well you never know"

There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true. ~Winston Churchill

Could it be that the objects around the sun and our unwavering interest in them coupled with their inability to make us believe its just hot pixels, dust, or other "artifacts" is setting the pace at the moment.

You can be sure they wont tell us if they don't have to so it will be a last minute thing when they know it has to be done.

IMHO, that is a mistake nothing will create intense panic more profoundly than the message there are aliens and they are right here now.

Today we had some nutty science lady on the beeb morning news show bouncing around about how close we to finding out if there is life on other planets..

You couldn't get a more mad, happy, excited scientist if you hand picked one from a line up of mad scientists..

What the MSM is up to is completly strange to tell you the truth..

[edit on 25/1/10 by thoughtsfull]

Give the people a new distraction before they start storming the White House. It works all the time.

reply to post by The X


It will be the biggest gaff in human history, or the best hatched plan/ruse of all time. Knowing what TPTB and MSM know about manufacturing consent I will but my money on the latter, right up there with the "need" for new and more shoes, or a bigger faster SUV.

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Obama sex scandal, that would do it!!

I tend to think that there is a high probability that there is some great, untold truth surrounding our existence on this planet and how it relates to the cosmos surrounding us. That truth, whatever it may be, is likely so profound and shattering that it could well surpass anything we have conceived.

The circumstantial evidence is almost beyond all denial but regardless of that, the denials continue. It runs counter to the weave of common sense to put up such a cloak of secrecy over something as obvious.

In fact, the whole thing borders on the ludicrous.

Could it be that for some reason, what we don't know as a species, can't hurt us? Is there some trip wire that is activated upon enlightenment? or is there that same minefield merely in the knowing?

The government has gone to extreme lengths for over six decades to keep the lid on this knowledge. If it is a Pandora's Box, then our curiosity and demand to know, may be asking for more than we want. But on the other hand, it is impossible for something of this import to remain a secret forever and when it does come out, there may be an accounting that will cost many PTB dearly.

Whatever it all is, one thing is for sure; it ain't swamp gas.

The GOV seems to work on a need to know basis. Until there is a need to disclose, there will be no disclosure. Now if an event like contact takes place then they will be forced to disclose. Push comes to shove.

Otherwise, there may be a very long slow disclosure starting with bacteria and lower life forms that are revealed to the public. But no intelligent life or evidence of visitation, contact or mutual cooperation until they absolutely have to.

This is why I'm hoping for impatient, restless ET's to force the issue. They have already been shot at. I'm sure they have concerns.

I also wonder about the GOV's tendency to engage in mind control the populace. Possible political ramifications as well as trying to capitalize on the issue for political gain. Perhaps label and demonize benevolent ET's as malevolent and nefarious vice-versa and polarized propaganda. Of course, in our polarized world, there will probably be those governments that will fall in both sides of the benevolent/malevolent perception issue.

The possibility of contact and an exchange of technology is also of a global economic concern. New energy technology would obviously make our old fossil fuel technology obsolete. This would impact a huge sector of our economy and effect jobs. Also, I'm sure that there are PTB that would lose their power and position (thankfully . I'm sure they will not let go easily.

Also I might add that the biggest vulnerability UFOLOGY has today are it's adherents and their wacky imaginings. Creates credibility issues that are exploited by the naysayers and the gov. Laugh factor, ridicule and tin hats.

Last, but not least, I often think about the impact disclosure would have on our global society, psych and religiosity. Our world is vastly diverse in culture, religion and perception. I would think there would be a whole range of reactions to such a disclosure from joyous welcome to fear and loathing to continued denial.

Inside, I feel a growing energy that something really really BIG is about to happen. In some ways I hope that an answer to the ET question will be it or a raise in collective awareness to mankind, rather than cataclysm and disaster.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by Emptiness Dancing]

double post

please ignore

[edit on 25-1-2010 by Emptiness Dancing]

Great post although there are 2 sides to this either
1 They have finaly realised that they can no longer keep this under wraps and have decided to come clean wether or not due to pressure from various groups or ET`s them selves
or
2
The current economic situation globally especially in the U.S has forced disclosure. The U.S at the moment and in the past has always been the super power, Due to everything that has been happening they are suddenly losing control. Imagine if russia or china rose and took control? That would be devastating to the US. So i feel that at this moment disclosure may be a way for the US to avoid this. The US wont rely on the east for oil etc due to the fact that disclosure will possibly bring free energy and a new way for us all to live. A world where we are all equal and wars and famine are a thing of the past. I hate to say this but the only other alternative would be a world war 3. Started either by a terrorist attack or even worse an assasination attempt. This would provoke another war as did 911. This would enable them to regain control of oil etc keeping them in a position that benefits the US.
There are rumours that the US used HAARP on Haiti? but who knows. One thing though although it has devastated many lives this earthquake has brought many people together and proves that it can be done. Settle our differences, see past the religions and skin colours it means nothing we all have 1 thing in common. We are all human beings and this place we call earth is everyones home.

I'm very glad that the posts so far were very constructive and thoughtful.

But about the issue at hand I really have no idea, I know we are ready for it but is the world ready for it? I believe our world is a loaded gun with stressy paranoid people running it. If aliens come it will make everything so much more complex, I mean suddenly we arn't dealing with earthly issues but maybe galactic issues. Maybe the aliens will tell us that we must find spirituality within.

I mean when that happens what do you believe the extrimists will do? They have guns and bombs on there body for Allah, and suddenly it all gets shattered? will they go mad? will they change? or will most of human kind stay stubbern?

The good way out would be that people understand that they were wrong and are willing to live on a more empatheticle basis.

But to state the conclusion, I don't think we are ready for full disclosure. I think this campaign is made to plant some seeds in the mass conciousness that later, maybe 40 years later will bloome. I believe that our way of life must be disrupted really bad before we can make big changes mentally as a mass. We need a slap on the head to wake our selves up from this dream.

It's a very complicated issue and weird "strategicle" steps by the governement make it all the more weirder.


I think history will go down like this:


WW3 + natural disasters

rest of people start to rebuild new society based on diffrent values (human values)

after a couple of years of our calm life the truth will start to come to us gradually untill we are welcome in the galactic society.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by colloredbrothers]

Originally posted by colloredbrothers

I think history will go down like this:


WW3 + natural disasters

rest of people start to rebuild new society based on diffrent values (human values)

after a couple of years of our calm life the truth will start to come to us gradually untill we are welcome in the galactic society.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by colloredbrothers]

Maybe after a limited nuclear exchange, but not an all out global nuclear war.

There is no coming back from that my friend...

We would most likely be written off as another failed type 0-1 civilisation. One of the many.

You can't have another Iron Age. Nearly all the iron at the surface has now been mined...

There is one important element that is missing here.

As we push on to 2012 to 2015 to 2033, in my research of only channeled information still a good source they all keep coming up with the same dates.

There has bin enough ET presents on this planet that we don't need a discloser date. There is a high % of adduction of the human population that is stored in there memory but have not bin reveled yet.

As we move closer to 2012 and the raising of our natural frequency the memory of all those abduction will come to the forefront. It will shift the balance to knowledge of ET existence to the present. That alone will make a big difference that is an event that no government can control.

Discloser will be based on what the public knows and remembers for once the ball starts rolling as it is now there is no stopping it what ever agreement the govenment and ET have can not with stand the mass consciousness awaking, of all the ET encounter that will come to light at that point discloser would be a moot point.


The ET know this, and would rather make an appearance sooner to help the transition of this knowledge but the timing of this is all up to us. It all comes down to how fast we rise in frequency will determent what our time line to the events at hand will be. If you look at it from this angle we are in control of our own destine as a hole and there is no one government that can control that.

Originally posted by the.lights

Originally posted by colloredbrothers

I think history will go down like this:


WW3 + natural disasters

rest of people start to rebuild new society based on diffrent values (human values)

after a couple of years of our calm life the truth will start to come to us gradually untill we are welcome in the galactic society.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by colloredbrothers]

Maybe after a limited nuclear exchange, but not an all out global nuclear war.

There is no coming back from that my friend...

We would most likely be written off as another failed type 0-1 civilisation. One of the many.

You can't have another Iron Age. Nearly all the iron at the surface has now been mined...

ofcourse you can come back from war even nuclear war, it just takes time and that time will shape the rest of the existing humans and will change mentality for ever.

Once people are able to drink water again and everything starts to build up slowely but with a better ground for builidng then we had before everything will be fine.

as long as no body gets power, the power must stay with the people.

Originally posted by colloredbrothers

Originally posted by the.lights

Originally posted by colloredbrothers

I think history will go down like this:


WW3 + natural disasters

rest of people start to rebuild new society based on diffrent values (human values)

after a couple of years of our calm life the truth will start to come to us gradually untill we are welcome in the galactic society.

[edit on 25-1-2010 by colloredbrothers]

Maybe after a limited nuclear exchange, but not an all out global nuclear war.

There is no coming back from that my friend...

We would most likely be written off as another failed type 0-1 civilisation. One of the many.

You can't have another Iron Age. Nearly all the iron at the surface has now been mined...

ofcourse you can come back from war even nuclear war, it just takes time and that time will shape the rest of the existing humans and will change mentality for ever.

Once people are able to drink water again and everything starts to build up slowely but with a better ground for builidng then we had before everything will be fine.

as long as no body gets power, the power must stay with the people.

But you are assuming somehow civilisation will pick up where it left off. Full scale global nuclear war would result in a mass die off and several years of nuclear winter. Civilisation as we know it would cease to exist. Mankind would effectively have bombed himself back to the Stone Age. And after a Stone Age, you need an Iron Age. There will be no memory of past civilisations and so on, just as we have little memory of the Egyptians, etc.

So, you cannot have another Irnon Age when most of the viable iron near the surface has been mined, thereby dooming any chance for further development...

This is our one and only shot. This civilisation. Right now. If we mess up, there's no chance of coming back.