SC Lt. Gov: Poor Like "Stray Animals." Don't Feed Them or "They Breed."

Originally posted by David9176
IF I can't feed my family Doc....I'll come to your house first and steal all the food out of your fridge.

Death will be swift and you'll be buried in an unmarked grave. See, that's the mentality of the comfortable poor people out there. They don't even dream of working for a living, they leap straight for theft.

Originally posted by David9176
Doc overcame it...therefore anyone else who can't in Doc's mind is a POS. I'm glad you'll never be President. You're an elitist without the power.

I'm a human being who was hungry, so I found work, and for that you condemn me. You're a horse's ass, Dave, who has never starved and had to work to feed yourself. I'll bet you're on welfare, but you still have a desktop computer and cable TV. What a hypocrite.

— Doc Velocity

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


In depth research into the General Welfare clause? Please elaborate.....

I'll get you started:

"Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." - Thomas Jefferson, 1798

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison criticizing an attempt to grant public monies for charitable means, 1794

"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but
an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions." - James Madison, 1792

At first glance, it says nothing about giving others money in terms of "social programs".

So you support that contention correct?

So you wish not to give me money. Fine. Im ok with that.

Why arent you ok with me not wanting to give others my money?

[edit on 24-1-2010 by brainwrek]

reply to post by Doc Velocity

Death will be swift and you'll be buried in an unmarked grave. See, that's the mentality of the comfortable poor people out there. They don't even dream of working for a living, they leap straight for theft.

Are you serious? Is that how you view 17 percent of this country? I am working...fortunately...but I know countless others who are trying like hell to get any job. It's impossible to even get a job a freakin McDonalds when you they receive 100's of applications.

Most people want to work. The JOBS AREN'T THERE. Do you think the sudden rise in unemployment the last year is because people want to be lazy?

I'm a human being who was hungry, so I found work, and for that you condemn me. You're a horse's ass, Dave, who has never starved and had to work to feed yourself. I'll bet you're on welfare, but you still have a desktop computer and cable TV. What a hypocrite.

I didn't condemn you for struggling and making it...I"m condemning you for CONDEMNING those who cannot. Maybe they should all line up at your house and you can shoot them all down for being leeches on society.

I work for a small business....you know...something that used to be prevalent in the USA until corporations suffocated them.

I've been without a job before....twice. Once without unemployment and another time with it. Did I have trouble eating? YES. Did I have trouble finding a place to sleep? NO. Luckily I have family that is willing to help me out.

You're the hypocrite...and not to mention...a cold heartless man.

Originally posted by David9176
I love the compassion here for the 17 percent of this country that cannot find a job....and the millions that will lose their homes.

Compassion? Take your "compassion" down to Bank of America or Chase or Wells Fargo and try to cash it in. Compassion is never going to solve the problem of poverty in America.

The problem is that it's too easy to go on the dole in this country. It's too easy to be a bum, basically, and many successive generations of the "poor" are all too aware of this fact. The gubbermint has sustained this pig-trough of free handouts for so long that we now have this sub-culture of Americans who have never known a day's work in their lives.

And they believe they're entitled. They plan their lives around that government welfare check and those food stamps and the social security benefits and the Medicaid and Medicare and so on and so on...

They are DEPENDENT on the government dole. Their FAMILIES are DEPENDENT on the government dole. Their grandparents and all their cousins and their kids and stepchildren are DEPENDENT on the government dole.

Like leeches, yes. But more like wood ticks, drinking the blood of America, draining it, becoming enormously and grossly and morbidly obese with excess, living off the taxes of others, like the useless parasites they are.

Yeah, you wanna talk about the "poor," or do you wanna talk about the needy? Two different classes. The needy really need help, and they have every intention of getting back on their feet and climbing out of the poverty shîthole — that's what I did. The "poor" as a class, however, AREN'T STRIVING to climb out of the cesspool — they're comfortable.

If you threatened to take away their government checks, they'd go crazy, they'd go on mad rampages of theft and violence. Threaten their government goose that lays golden eggs, and they'd rather kill your ass than get a job.

Better to smash out a window and steal something. Easy way out, every time, with those people.

Yes, I am differentiating between the poor people that I worked with in the watermelon patch and the "poor people" who sit on their front porches down in the ghetto, drinking their hooch out of brown bags and shooting crack out back.

See, there's a huge difference between the two. One group of people (the truly needy minority) will take your offerings and keep moving and make something of their lives, okay? The "poor people" on the government dole, however, will CONTINUE taking your offerings FOREVER, and they have no intention of rising above the shîthole they inhabit.

— Doc Velocity





[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]

Yeah. And Rich people are like parasites.

They can't make it by without sucking life off the laborers.

Hey it's a two way street !

Funny that everyone I know that is on welfare /foodstamps etc actually has jobs.

My wifes brother and sister and law, both work every day yet do not get paid crap so they still need assistance. One works at Pizza Hut, the other works at a factory.

My wifes best friends are on assistance, one works at a gas station and the other works at a factory.

Her other friend works as a bank teller, and she is on assistance too.

Her parents are on assistance and they have worked HARD for over 40+ years. And still work! (they should have retired years ago).

But here is the problem.

Us slaves do not get paid crap. The gas bills, electric, and prices of food are so exorbitantly high that you just simply cannot make ends meet working normal jobs anymore.

THEY ALL WORK.
Yet they all need assistance because they don't get paid crap.

Looks to me like the people running these businesses are running slave labor, and expecting the Govt to take care of their workers pay shortfalls.

This is the fault of business greed, and trying to make the highest profit margins possible at ANY expense.

Why is a job not enough anymore? Because the govt will cover the rest...allowing business to profit big time!

Hell most work places will not allow you to work full time either, they only allow part time so they can withhold benefits etc.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Yeah. And Rich people are like parasites. They can't make it by without sucking life off the laborers. Hey it's a two way street !

The "rich guy" who signs the paycheck is the economic engine, okay? The economic engine runs the nation. Big guy at the top signs your paychecks, and you get a new apartment, new computer, new nose job, a new house, so all the perceived good things in life are products of this economic engine.

Don't attack the economic engine. Simple.

If you want to stabilize the economy and eliminate poverty, then you should leave the ECONOMIC ENGINE alone... Don't tamper with its mechanism, don't try to "fix it" when it aint broken.

Invite the poor to participate in the economy! Invite them to get jobs!

Don't try to tell me "there are no jobs out there"... That's a load of horseshît. There are jobs everywhere...

It's the "comfort" factor that prevents the poor from seeking work: "Oh, that job is too far away and it requires a car and I'd have to buy gas all the time and..." Hell yeah, they will make one million excuses for staying on welfare and not getting a job.

WORKING is an OFFENSE to their COMFORT.

— Doc Velocity





[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]

I read a brief remark about this in a local South Carolina newspaper. It said the metaphor was poorly chosen. The idea behind the metaphor was that people should not grow dependent on government handouts. I tend to agree that too many have gotten used to the idea of a free lunch where the government provides everything. It seems that many think it's ok if the government provides for all their needs. I'm opposed to the government providing for all. I want a smaller government not bigger. I want less taxes not more.

reply to post by orionthehunter


Be assured, there is a groundswell of like sentiment all across America, and it's going to sing like a siren in November of this year... This is going to be a helluva year, folks. Fasten yer seatbelts.

— Doc Velocity





[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]

reply to post by muzzleflash


Just out of curiosity, what college degrees or other education do the gas station worker, the factory worker, and the pizza jockey you mentioned hold?

reply to post by ldyserenity


Really, what about Gandhi, Mandela, Robert Mitchem, Cash, Hilton, well maybe not Hilton but there have been a lot of people in jail that have contributed more than you, would be murderer.

reply to post by brainwrek


So if you get injured in an accident you should be left to die. I am all for that
For some reason I think if it was you let them die people, you would scream the loudest

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Funny that everyone I know that is on welfare /foodstamps etc actually has jobs.

My wifes brother and sister and law, both work every day yet do not get paid crap so they still need assistance. One works at Pizza Hut, the other works at a factory.

My wifes best friends are on assistance, one works at a gas station and the other works at a factory.

Her other friend works as a bank teller, and she is on assistance too.

Her parents are on assistance and they have worked HARD for over 40+ years. And still work! (they should have retired years ago).

But here is the problem.

Us slaves do not get paid crap. The gas bills, electric, and prices of food are so exorbitantly high that you just simply cannot make ends meet working normal jobs anymore.

THEY ALL WORK.
Yet they all need assistance because they don't get paid crap.

Looks to me like the people running these businesses are running slave labor, and expecting the Govt to take care of their workers pay shortfalls.

This is the fault of business greed, and trying to make the highest profit margins possible at ANY expense.

Why is a job not enough anymore? Because the govt will cover the rest...allowing business to profit big time!

Hell most work places will not allow you to work full time either, they only allow part time so they can withhold benefits etc.

Thats too bad, I live in California and I currently know zero people on the dole, although I do know many unemployed people most are living on savings for the time being. I am not sure how long that will last, I don't personally know any "lazy" people who have never worked a hard day in their lives. However if any of my friends or family do need help I will be glad that my deductions will go to their benefit.

I guess I am also lucky that I do not view people like animals, hopefully this chap will
get hit in the nuts with a ball peen hammer to ensure he does not release more sociopathy into the gene pool. If any of you buy the ticket I will swing the hammer free of charge, I am socialist like that I guess.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Yeah, a great solution he's give. Starve 'em.

That's the NWO for you. Dude's probably Skull and Bones, or is buddies with one.

Originally posted by tothetenthpowerI'm actually surprised that some intelligent human being didn't boo him off that stage, or at least key his car on the way out.

At a partisan convention? They may as well go out and starve them and beat them to please their Master's suggestions.

Fact is, at least 40% of your poor DO work...just the bosses refuse to pay their employees. Why? Because the employees OWE THEM. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that.

I bust my ass, go to school, and if I can't get enough money for something, I and everyone else are called lazy. Why don't you pay your employees asshole, and stopping ripping everyone off like Madoff? Goddamn exporting of jobs to other slave nations. And people wonder why things don't get better? Both sides do the same thing, can't everyone #ing see that?!

[edit on 25-1-2010 by Darky5K]

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
reply to post by orionthehunter

 

Be assured, there is a groundswell of like sentiment all across America, and it's going to sing like a siren in November of this year... This is going to be a helluva year, folks. Fasten yer seatbelts.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]

I know, all the libertarian, post partisan, conservative costumes are being shed like crazy only to reveal two bit Neocons. I can't wait to see the new ideas that the neoconservative base is ready to unfurl upon America. Such a proven track record of success is bound to produce the same amazing results we received last time, so I can relate to your giddiness. Personally, I am preying every night that I can witness the first Trillionaire before I am forty, I know if anyone can, you can guys can!

God Bless America!

CHEERIOS


[edit on 25-1-2010 by Janky Red]

The phrase which appears to have offended many is the one about 'animals'

But we are animals, like it or not

I'm wondering where the Darwinists are lurking

If we compare humans to a herd of wilderbeast, we'd see where we're going wrong

If a wilderbeast cannot keep up, is injured, is deformed or whatever, the herd leaves it behind

Now of course people will leap upon this chance to say, ' That's the difference between we humans and wilderbeast' ... so there's only ONE chance for someone to use that, after that it becomes superfluous

We have to cease assuring ourselves we're something special here on this planet when in fact, we are a plague, as the other thread asserts

We are animals. Most often, we're far worse than animals. We know it, which is why some people become so defensive when comparisons are made

We have to restore the integrity of our herd. We have to breed from the fittest instead of pillaging this planet, justified by the insane notion that every member of the human herd is entitled to produce more of themselves

Poverty breeds poverty-mentality, very often. Welfare lifestyle often carries through to the fourth generation, all of them hiding behind 'victim' status or claiming some excuse rather than accept any work that comes their way

It can't go on

If a person cannot support themselves, they have no right putting another of themselves on the planet. But, they won't stop unless they're stopped

Compassion has a place, but spoonfeeding useless eaters will soon be a thing of the past

Did one of the founding fathers of America not say something along the lines of if people are poor and comfortable they will stay that way, the easiest way to get poor people to work is to make them uncomfortable.

Its true there are so many people living on welfare and the dole in the UK, USA. They are very comfortable on it and at times are better off than people who work.

A family member of mine gets £1000 in her hand a month for nothing but sitting on her ass with three kids no daddy and a host of social issues caused by her inability to be a parent.

In saying that not everyone on the dole is a scorunger its just most of them. In the UK at least there is a culture of "why should I work if the goverment will keep me".

You want a place to live in the UK pop out a kid or 2 and the goverment HAVE to give you a house, it might not be in a nice area (unless of course your an immigrant) but on the dole you pay none or very very little council tax your rent is covered and they give you money to feed, cloth and keep yourself warm ohh and enough to afford a 40in tv.

After that long rant I say screw the people on the dole cut off there supply and get them into work even if its cleaning streets, painting ect for the state then at least they would be earning there way.

reply to post by brainwrek


"Care to elaborate and you'll get me started". lol. These very issues have been debated on these threads until it bores me to tears to even see one, much less participate in such a conversation.

Look, the law is the law and says you have to pay taxes if you are able to. Clearly the thought of having to share with another human being upsets you and makes you angry. That is your issue to deal with, not mine.

As for your other questions, I don't mean to be rude, but they are just uninteresting to me and I have no intention in entertaining them. I figure if you can attempt, lol, to be condescending, I can offer a touch of rudeness.

Look, I really don't give a flying fig if you pay your taxes or not. Your rather rudimentary issues are not my problem.

A political figure has stated essentially he would like to see a class of people starve to death, and further more put an end to their "breeding", which is again a very insulting statement in and of itself. I'm sure he and the rest of the middle class "make love", and "procreate". The poorer classes simply "breed". Like animals. There is something severely lacking in this man's character and in his thinking, to even believe that making such a statement is acceptable in anyone's terms. I hope he will be duly admonished by his constituency.

The language alone is offensive, clearly reeks of ignorance, and the suggestions he makes are barbaric.

Originally posted by Doc Velocity
reply to post by orionthehunter

 

Be assured, there is a groundswell of like sentiment all across America, and it's going to sing like a siren in November of this year... This is going to be a helluva year, folks. Fasten yer seatbelts.

— Doc Velocity
[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]

Yes, because you neocons did SUCH a great job when you had all the branches. Why, you did the same things Obama has done! Nice job

It isn't about work, it's about how much we earn versus what we're paying. And so far, we're paying more so these people can be kings and abandon us when the # hits the fan. And you will sing their greatness to the end, it seems. It's about us being treated like human beings, American individuals; not cattle to slave away and be told we can't do this or that because it would compete with the masters.

Originally posted by jpmail

After that long rant I say screw the people on the dole cut off there supply and get them into work even if its cleaning streets, painting ect for the state then at least they would be earning there way.

That would be "SOCIALISM" we don't do that here, plus expanding the government is bad
which makes government jobs bad; so instead we bitch about it and bash the alternative solution in the same sentence.

However the UK should try it!

Originally posted by brainwrek
On the flip side, by cutting off unconstitutional wealth redistribution policies, we will force the "poor" to fend for themselves or simply perish.

Not really a bad thing.

You disgust me.

another for the ignore bin.