Jesus in the Crosshairs

Its not exactly something new, even by recent standards. There are people called 'army chaplain' whose jobs it is to give rites and absolution et cetera to soldiers, and it is basically a cross between minister and psychologist.

In the psychology part their job is to make a soldier feel better about what they did and quote scripture to say it is okay under certain circumstance and they are righteous under God's eyes.

I was at one time considering going into this specialised but then I found from talking to others their job is literally just a yes-man, tell them what they want to hear at all cost to get them back in fighting order.

Hasn't this thread already been made 3 times already?

As a Christian, I don't believe Jesus would suggest this. However, I don't see anything wrong with it either. There is evil in the world and I don't believe God wants anyone to just sit back and watch it go on and not try to put an end to it. Other religions to their things. Why are Christians always picked on? How can anyone get offended by the Bible? I personally don't know what the point is to have a Bible verse on a gun. Who's going to read it? Nothing wrong with it but it really has no purpose.

[edit on 23-1-2010 by Crunchberry]

Originally posted by Dock9
I read somewhere that the founder of the company which makes the equipment was a believer

Maybe he was attempting to in some way lessen his own feelings of guilt about producing arms, by placing these markings on his product ?

Or maybe he was hoping soldiers would be reminded of God, Christ, Eternity, etc. before pulling the trigger ?

Actually no. He called it "humourous" in the article that was posted on another thread. He has no feelings of guilt or he would be in a different kind of business. In attempting to rationalize his actions, you are projecting what your reasons might be if you were doing such a thing. It would still in no way excuse such blasphemy and arrogance.

Originally posted by Crunchberry
As a Christian, I don't believe Jesus would suggest this. However, I don't see anything wrong with it either. There is evil in the world and I don't believe God wants anyone to just sit back and watch it go on and not try to put an end to it. Other religions to their things. Why are Christians always picked on? How can anyone get offended by the Bible? I personally don't know what the point is to have a Bible verse on a gun. Who's going to read it? Nothing wrong with it but it really has no purpose.

[edit on 23-1-2010 by Crunchberry]

Sorry to be blunt my friend, but its the same as putting on the side of a packet of Durex. They are polar opposites.

As i see it Trijicon makes night vision scopes.
It really has more to do with being able to see in the dark.
Hence the part about jesus and the light.
Not condoning it, but thats is what the manufacturer is getting at.

I think the whole thing is silly superstition. The manufacturer seemed to think that referencing bible verses on the rifle sights would some how protect or bless the user.

reply to post by Ridhya


I think that there is a vast difference between someone serving in the military and choosing to go to chapel or have the last rites administered or whatever by someone from your own faith and having something inscribed on your rifle or scope which may or may not be in line with your own chosen religion. Just because one is in the US Armed forces or the British/Canadian etc, does not say that you are a Christian, are there any inscriptions on these weapons which are from any other religion?
And to refer to another post on this thread, I don't think it has anything to do with "light" as not all of the inscriptions are the same!

edit to add a quick ps.

I heard, on Sky news over the past weekend, that these biblical references will no longer appear on scopes used by the British military!

[edit on 27/1/10 by wiser3]

reply to post by masqua

Isaiah 55:9 --- For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

It is certainly not for us to decide what Jesus approves of, though I believe the message is clear. I can't imagine bullets/scopes being preferable means of prolythesizing.

Another passage in which God reminds us how small our comprehension is.

Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear ... however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature. --- Matthew 13

Why it's relevant what is written on a bullet is beyond me. Would it be different if they were passages from the Quran? .... or even the Far Side (Gary Larson)


Gods message never changes... only the manner in which we deliver it.

Originally posted by JollyLlama

Gods message never changes... only the manner in which we deliver it.

So true.

There should be a better way to deliver religious teachings than on implements of death and destruction. It denotes any religion which does it as an advocate of violence. Not that it's a new idea or anything... Constantine had Christian symbols on shields and standards as he marched against his Roman rivals in the bid for ultimate power. The strange thing is that he wasn't even a Christian at the time and that he chose to use it as a means to rally his legions rather than a true belief he himself held.