Arizona slammed with worst storm in state history

Originally posted by The_Zomar
I wonder what the chances are of this being man made or not.

Either way, stay safe.

I wouldn't say man made.

Man Encouraged - - I definitely believe.

reply to post by EKron


Gilbert & Ray here...I did not think that the storm was bad. I drove from 60 & Rural to my house. It was windy and wet, but otherwise OK. Once I got home I got out of my car and was instantly soaked though.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Nice, another north eastern person that relocated! I moved here from Worcester, MA in 06...and yes, this storm was not even as bad as a blizzard!

Adding this - We once has a blizzard in Massachusetts with a tornado warning...that is scary and crazy!

[edit on 22-1-2010 by MarshMallow_Snake]

reply to post by nikiano


I 100% agree with your last statement. Once the road is wet, people become morons! What is up with that? Driving in snow is worse, and I never had a problem!

Doubt there is anything man made in regards to this... been watching it all winter just a nice run of La Nina moisture...

Big issue was getting rain for a few hrs up here yesterday which forced more water down stream south

No massive tragedy in the making AZ sort of freaks out a bit when it rains a lot tho, you really want to stay off the highways with some of these people if there's even an inch of water, all the oil comes up and they go sliding this way and that

I will say though...

With Intermittent Internet and the power having been out (for me at least) since late last night...

Right about now i'm proud of the lightly paranoid side of my nature...

Hand cranked Radios and Flash Lights

Arctic Sleeping Bags

Freezer full of meat

I could sit here a few weeks and even though it's starting to feel like a new ice age is coming in as it is Still snowing... Boredom is my biggest enemy atm not safety or survival...

It really pays to buy the kind of crap you see advertised for survival on sites like this and coast to coast... might hardly ever use it but the stuff is great.

like, none of my plants got cold because of this little solar charged heat lamp... useless the other 364 days a year... but this morning... Excellent!

I highly recommend being an impulse shopper while cruising around conspiracy sites and shows...

"BAD" is relative to what areas are prepared for.

Like Earthquakes. I was born and raised in SOCA - - I hardly flinch when there is an earthquake. Except for older structures - - buildings have had to meet earthquake standards for many years. Most people die in crumbling buildings - like in Haiti.

I now live in SW AZ. There's insufficient drainage for a lot of water. I believe all business now have to include what I believe is called a catchment so as not to waste water and control their own property.

The streets flood. Many intersections become completely flooded. Roofs leak - including the roof of the new high school.

Heck - power goes out regularly from just wind. Transformers blow up when water gets in them - sometimes because the rubber seals melt/deteriorate from the summer heat.

The area is just not prepared or equipped for people to be out running around when there is a lot of water from rain.

Not to mention the rubber on our windshield wipers is usually melted to the glass - - - and you never think about replacing them until its too late.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Annee]

Somebody here mentioned "birth pangs" as according to revelation in the bible... i completely agree...what do others posters think?

Somebody here mentioned "birth pangs" as according to revelation in the bible... i completely agree...what do others posters think?

reply to post by amatrine


Amatrine
How is your daughter? Better I hope. The sun as been out here all day.
Please let us know.

Although I don't think this was the worst storm ever,(the floods of 1983 were pretty bad) the wind was ferocious where I live. About 1/4 of my shingles ended up in my neighbors yard (two acres away.)

But here's a weird coincidence: about two weeks ago I was driving into town to pick up my son, and a public service announcement,(sponsered by FEMA), came on. It had to do with tornado preparedness. I thought it was strange to have anything about tornadoes here in southern AZ, much less in January. Usually it's flooding, wind storms, dust storms, or lightening storms. Anyway , when the tornado warnings came on yesterday, I just thought, hmm, the timing was a little weird.

reply to post by watermizer


Fema...

needs to get up here with some shovels... because i'm tired as heck...

This is my 6'6 Christmas tree which I stood in the yard after the holidays...






and this is ol mopey up to my neck as usual...

(seriously) behind me waist high, that's just from last night.... i cleared it to ground every day for last five days... that's just from last night, pile to right is over 15 ft high and now 20 feet long from shoveling.

Simply an amazing amount of snow... good five feet on ground.





[edit on 22-1-2010 by mopusvindictus]

[edit on 22-1-2010 by mopusvindictus]

reply to post by MarshMallow_Snake


I think the younger people will accept these weather changes as normal they are not.I have seen tornadoes in the winter witch never happened in my life time till now. I have seen hail fall in perfect cubes like ice cubes. I have seen snow fall with thunder and lighting. I have seen cobweb material fall from the sky and the spraying in our skies. This is not normal these are man made events I worry that our young will accept them as normal.

I found a great site called www.tornadohistoryproject.com... where you can search for US tornados between 1950 and 2008, via state, county, scale, etc...

AZ has never had a class 4 or 5 tornado (Fujita scale) and has had only 2 class 3's. It will be interesting to see if any 4 or 5's appear but I highly doubt it.

I think the 24 hour news cycle makes weather seem worse than it is. This is one site that will help prove if this storm is truly the worst in state history.

reply to post by Annee


HAHA so true about the wipers. Mine are very bad and I only remember the rare time it rains then I forget to change them again.

My daughter is doing better and most of the water has receded. Just some washes still full on the roads, got to be careful.

A sad story on the news here from that storm, a boy in Dewey had gone missing. He was very ill. The parents took him to the hospital despite the risk and the truck was carried away in a wash. Rescue got all but the sick boy who is no longer presumed alive. Real sad.

A friend of mines neighbors , lost the roof of their house. My brother had a 40 foot tree land 3 feet from his couch, where he was sleeping.

There is a huge sink hole on the property next door to me that is about 4 feet deep and three feet wide, and 12 feet long.

Not many people know that SW Arizona is the #1 producer of winter vegetables - melons - lemons - etc.

The fields are soaked - - tractors are getting stuck.

Be prepared for higher prices - - especially lettuce.

The cotton fields here are a mess too. They had just planted seed before that storm.

Originally posted by amatrine
The cotton fields here are a mess too. They had just planted seed before that storm.

Yeah - I'm not sure how it will affect the cotton fields.

I live in the middle of a Lemon grove - - I know they lost a whole years lemon crop a while back because of freezing. It was after harvest - - but they lost the new buds.

"Outsiders" just don't know. They make fun and laugh because its desert -- like what's the big deal.

Finally got my car out and on the road today after 7 more hrs shoveling lol

Then on the way downtown it took a slide on a major ice slick and cracked my front bumper DOH!

This whole week has been impossible... big deal new bumper a lot of people had it worse, but damn I am sore, tired and didn't get off cheap either before all is said and done... weeks work lost, plus costs

It's like the Day After Tomorrow up here...

All this Snow...

And do I get to go Snow Board tomorrow?

Noooooooooooo Avalanche issues...

FRACK

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
none of my plants got cold because of this little solar charged heat lamp... useless the other 364 days a year... but this morning... Excellent!

I highly recommend being an impulse shopper while cruising around conspiracy sites and shows...

Hello Mopus!
I tried to U2U but I don't have 20 posts yet.

Would you mind letting me know where you bought the solar heat lamp?

We are South of Prescott, oops Preskitt, and snowed in. we have well over two feet of snow with no plows in sight. The power was out for a couple days but it's back on now.

It is very beautiful here. All but one of our few neighbors left for town when they realized how much snow we were getting. LOL!