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we simply want to give an outline of the lightworker’s psychological identity.
Originally posted by Mr Green
reply to post by 4stral4pprentice
we simply want to give an outline of the lightworker’s psychological identity.
We? Im sorry all I get from your post and links is a hidden agenda to promote a book and web site on the basis its "very similar to the RA". You could have quite easily posted these "characteristics" without linking to your site. I assume it is your site as you refer to yourself as "we".
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
Sounds like me to a degree. It mirrors my life, attitudes and predispositions almost exactly. Except that I not pretend to "know" anything, I have certain leanings but I like to think that is simply my "path", one of many. Of which I don't think is "the best" but simply mine and what works for me. Also I think concepts such as good and evil are simply ways to feed the ego in a sense as EVERY action has it's positive and negative aspects with no universally right or wrong action.
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Originally posted by 4stral4pprentice
This is not my site, its simply copy and pasted from the site, to try and bring more people into this kind of learning. That is why you are questioning me about "We" lol. Observant you are, but I might add that there is no hidden agenda. The only agenda in this is to provide a learning experience.
Love & Light
[edit on 21-1-2010 by 4stral4pprentice]
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by 4stral4pprentice
This is not my site, its simply copy and pasted from the site, to try and bring more people into this kind of learning. That is why you are questioning me about "We" lol. Observant you are, but I might add that there is no hidden agenda. The only agenda in this is to provide a learning experience.
Love & Light
[edit on 21-1-2010 by 4stral4pprentice]
Maybe rather than copy and pasting the whole OP from an internet site, next time it it would be far better to say it from your own heart. Maybe you can help others to learn through your experience of the light. Yes I see now that the OP is cut and pasted, it doesnt have "you" in it, it is just a list. This is why to me it just looked like a link to selling the book. Thank you for clearing that up.
So tell me what draws you to this subject? Im not big on channeling, a lot of its information is altered and manipulated as it is sent through the densities, what you hear is not often what was originally sent at the other end. Im a big believer in following your higher cosmic self (that which is YOU above the veil) channelings are mostly from BELOW the veil and are mainly from astral entities/discarnates, ETs and lower thought forms. The RA material is the one set of channelings that were subject to less than normal astral distortions, but even the RA material should be read in the understanding it is channeled. I have read the RA material, but if something doesnt sound right to me I will not adopt it as my belief just because the RA channelings say it is correct.
So Im not interested in what "Jeshua" really has to say , but I am interested in what you have to say.
[edit on 21-1-2010 by Mr Green]
Originally posted by 4stral4pprentice
Excellent question! This subject and what i believe to be the general idea of both channelings draw me in quite a bit. To me they both are teaching infinity and a heart based consciousness.
Ever since i was young i always thought i would be of grand help to everyone and everything, and i was also drawn into spirituality at a young age despite how i grew up in a middle classed family not to bent on religion or spirituality.
I performed telekinesis when i was about 11 and to me it didnt make sense to me that everything was not everything, concepts like duality flew out the window since then. Also after having a few OOBE's the idea in the christian sense, that there was a heaven and hell flew out the window as well. So i always figured there was a gradual process in the evolution of the spirit, like talked about in both materials.
I've also come to love everything unconditionally, , These past few years i may have been accelerating into craziness or enlightenment, who knows, no one knows, but what i do know, through this whole process (of reading,learning,meditating,growing) i feel like I'm walking in heaven 80% of the time. Unless some "negative" feeling arises for a moment or i get distracted and become what i would say unconscious or zombie like. I say quote on quote negative, because i don't believe in right or wrong, bad or good, their opinions. I like the einstein quote, something like " i often wonder if im crazy or if everyone else is?" lol
Icarus' father, Daedalus, a talented and remarkable Athenian craftsman, attempted to escape from his exile in the place of Crete, where he and his son were imprisoned at the hands of King Minos, the king for whom he had built the Labyrinth to imprison the Minotaur (half man, half bull). Daedalus, the superior craftsman, was exiled because he gave Minos' daughter, Ariadne, a clew[1] of string in order to help Theseus, the enemy of Minos, survive the Labyrinth and defeat the Minotaur.
Daedalus fashioned two pairs of wings out of wax and feathers for himself and his son. Before they took off from the island, Daedalus warned his son not to fly too close to the sun, nor too close to the sea. Overcome by the giddiness that flying lent him, Icarus soared through the sky curiously, but in the process he came too close to the sun, which melted the wax. Icarus kept flapping his wings but soon realized that he had no feathers left and that he was only flapping his bare arms. And so, Icarus fell into the sea in the area which bears his name, the Icarian Sea near Icaria, an island southwest of Samos.[2]
Hellenistic writers who gave philosophical knowledge underpinnings to the myth also preferred more realistic variants, in which the escape from Crete was actually by boat, provided by Pasiphaë, for which Daedalus invented the first sails, to outstrip Minos' pursuing galleys, and that Icarus fell overboard en route to Sicily and drowned. Heracles erected a tomb for him
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by 4stral4pprentice
Excellent question! This subject and what i believe to be the general idea of both channelings draw me in quite a bit. To me they both are teaching infinity and a heart based consciousness.
Heart based consciousness is not full cosmic consciousness. Infinity can not be reached from heart based awarness.
Ever since i was young i always thought i would be of grand help to everyone and everything, and i was also drawn into spirituality at a young age despite how i grew up in a middle classed family not to bent on religion or spirituality.
It does sound like you have chosen this path for yourself.
I performed telekinesis when i was about 11 and to me it didnt make sense to me that everything was not everything, concepts like duality flew out the window since then. Also after having a few OOBE's the idea in the christian sense, that there was a heaven and hell flew out the window as well. So i always figured there was a gradual process in the evolution of the spirit, like talked about in both materials.
You sound like you have a natural ability. Pretty cool being able to do that at age 11!
I've also come to love everything unconditionally, , These past few years i may have been accelerating into craziness or enlightenment, who knows, no one knows, but what i do know, through this whole process (of reading,learning,meditating,growing) i feel like I'm walking in heaven 80% of the time. Unless some "negative" feeling arises for a moment or i get distracted and become what i would say unconscious or zombie like. I say quote on quote negative, because i don't believe in right or wrong, bad or good, their opinions. I like the einstein quote, something like " i often wonder if im crazy or if everyone else is?" lol
Whilst this sounds an amazing state to be in, it will eventually burn you. I say this to you from experience but it is up to you to take from it what you wish.
Whilst incarnated in form we are dualistic, of dark and light, matter and spirit, positive and negative. Polarize to one side and you get burnt by the opposing force re balancing you. like you I took in huge amounts of spiritual light, I channeled spiritual entities and took in vast amounts of white light through my heart and crown chakra. The result is as you have seen...BLISS, you love everything and anything unconditionally and walk around in a haze of love and light. You are unable to deal with negativity because it takes you away from the heaven state you say you live in 80% of the time. Yes I have experienced all this.....but the Universe expects you to be balanced!! When we step too far into the light it burns us. take a young plant, place it in FULL sun light for days and days its dies. Then take another young plant, place that in the dark for days and days...again in dies. WE are those plants and WE must be spiritually balanced.
Those entities in the far right psychic side of existance , as Jeshua is, know this but it is in their interest to never tell. Instead they try to "impress us" with their "knowledge" which in truth we do not need.
Im not trying to upset you, all Im trying to do is show you the payment of BALANCE that must always be re paid by those who step too far into the light. I experienced severe re balancing on several occasions, has this happened to you ever? It always happened to me when Id spent several days within the BLISS state of the white light.days of Unconditional BLISS was re balanced by days of dark FEAR.
Always the extreme light is followed by the extreme dark. take the middle ground and save yourself the spiritual payment of balance.
Some people never leave the BLISS state. Absolute truth is beyond it but few wish to turn their back on the gates of bliss.
Good luck in your journey but always the path from channelings leads to a locked gate.
[edit on 26-1-2010 by Mr Green]
Sorry, when i said heart based consciousness i sort of said it in a metaphor. What I mean is a green ray activated being, a heart based consciousness, a life of and for love. .
7:13 Enter you in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad
is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in
there:
i feel like I'm walking in heaven 80% of the time. Unless some "negative" feeling arises for a moment or i get distracted and become what i would say unconscious or zombie like. I say quote on quote negative, because i don't believe in right or wrong, bad or good,
i choose my own middle path
Questioner: I have a question here from (name). It states: “As we see compassion developing in ourselves is it more appropriate to balance this compassion with wisdom or to allow the compassion to develop as much as possible without being balanced”?
Ra: I am Ra. This query borders upon that type of question to which answers are unavailable due to the free-will prohibitions upon information from teach/learners.
To the student of the balancing process we may suggest that the most stringent honesty be applied. As compassion is perceived it is suggested that, in balancing, this perception be analyzed. It may take many, many essays into compassion before true universal love is the product of the attempted opening and crystallization of this all-important springboard energy center. Thus the student may discover many other components to what may seem to be all-embracing love. Each of these components may be balanced and accepted as part of the self and as transitional material as the entity’s seat of learn/teaching moves ever more clearly into the green ray.
When it is perceived that universal love has been achieved the next balancing may or may not be wisdom. If the adept is balancing manifestations it is indeed appropriate to balance universal love and wisdom. If the balancing is of mind or spirit there are many subtleties to which the adept may give careful consideration. Love and wisdom, like love and light, are not black and white, shall we say, but faces of the same coin, if you will. Therefore, it is not, in all cases, that balancing consists of a movement from compassion to wisdom.
Originally posted by Mr Green
reply to post by 4stral4pprentice
Sorry, when i said heart based consciousness i sort of said it in a metaphor. What I mean is a green ray activated being, a heart based consciousness, a life of and for love. .
Yes I understand about the green ray activation. Just out of interest how long has your green ray been active? It is after the activation of this that unless balance is achieved you will be unable to progress further. Green ray activation is required for total enlightenment but it is NOT to be dwelled upon. The return to Source is the aim, not to dwell in the green ray Bliss. The green ray has gates just behind it, the gates do not open for those who reside within its bliss. Many reach green ray and assume thats it, wow Ive reached unlimited love and light, great now all I have to do is feel it and send it to others....unfortunatly not, you are only half way up the ladder and the path is beginning to get narrow.
7:13 Enter you in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad
is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in
there:
i feel like I'm walking in heaven 80% of the time. Unless some "negative" feeling arises for a moment or i get distracted and become what i would say unconscious or zombie like. I say quote on quote negative, because i don't believe in right or wrong, bad or good,
i choose my own middle path
Believe me being in the Bliss 80% of the time is not the middle path. re read the story of Icarus it has great meaning and truth for all light workers. many will as Icarus did loose their wings due to the fierce flames of balance.
The RA also speak of the balancing required of the love and light experienced from green ray. They quite correctly state it is a transition from compassion to wisdom.
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Questioner: I have a question here from (name). It states: “As we see compassion developing in ourselves is it more appropriate to balance this compassion with wisdom or to allow the compassion to develop as much as possible without being balanced”?
Ra: I am Ra. This query borders upon that type of question to which answers are unavailable due to the free-will prohibitions upon information from teach/learners.
To the student of the balancing process we may suggest that the most stringent honesty be applied. As compassion is perceived it is suggested that, in balancing, this perception be analyzed. It may take many, many essays into compassion before true universal love is the product of the attempted opening and crystallization of this all-important springboard energy center. Thus the student may discover many other components to what may seem to be all-embracing love. Each of these components may be balanced and accepted as part of the self and as transitional material as the entity’s seat of learn/teaching moves ever more clearly into the green ray.
When it is perceived that universal love has been achieved the next balancing may or may not be wisdom. If the adept is balancing manifestations it is indeed appropriate to balance universal love and wisdom. If the balancing is of mind or spirit there are many subtleties to which the adept may give careful consideration. Love and wisdom, like love and light, are not black and white, shall we say, but faces of the same coin, if you will. Therefore, it is not, in all cases, that balancing consists of a movement from compassion to wisdom.
[edit on 27-1-2010 by Mr Green]
[edit on 27-1-2010 by Mr Green]
For how long? I'm not exactly sure. I perceive and feel that I am of green ray activation.
I am still in the process of complete balancing, I know that the path is infinite, everything is always changing. My path lays far beyond just becoming green ray activated i know this, it is not my aim to stop my path of spiritual evolution you could say. I know I'm not fully balanced as your saying,
But I do believe constant bliss and complete balancing can be achieved at the same time. Especially continuing the way I think it would be hard not to imagine that outcome as a good possibility. I am choosing my own middle path, everyone is unique, I simply choose not to suffer, there's no point to, I see negativity and embrace it as i have said previously. I do become sad sometimes, but it quickly subsides after I meditate on it as I usually do for everything.