Why did all the Aliens, Indigo Children, Time Travelers, Mystics, Enlightened, Psychics, etc FAIL to

...predict the EQ in Haiti?

Why did all the Aliens, Indigo Children, Time Travelers, Mystics, Enlightened, Psychics, etc FAIL to predict the EQ in Haiti? I mean if you were sent here to help in the form of spreading peace, love, acceptance/tolerance, being one, don’t you think that would have been a good place to start? All this talk about doomsday, transitions to a higher consciousness, time wave zero, novelty, Mayan calendars, crystals, what aliens from the planet Zebes told you, what the channeled spirit of KUMBABALOKCHOK told you means absolutely NOTHING. Here it is real people have died, real people are suffering, children are now orphans, families are torn apart, disease may spread, etc, yet NONE of you people with “special” talents (take the word special however you want) were able to lift a finger before this tragedy. You would figure something of this magnitude, which has caused this much damage (death, collapse of infrastructure, etc) would have been at the TOP of your list but it wasn’t. My question is WHY?

So you might be thinking, “What are you doing to help Empire?”, and my answer to that is I’ve done what my belief system requires me to do, which is to help any human being, regardless of skin color, religion, sexual preference, etc in their time of need. How I helped those people will remain confidential, but it sure as hell wasn’t some wacky post on ATS talking about aliens from Orion and how they have an interest in humanity, no that is what your belief system requires of you. Your belief systems are rooted in your extrinsic values and lusts for appreciation as you’re living a meager existence, and the “help” and “knowledge” you spew only solidifies the fact that you’re disillusioned, sanctimonious hypocrites.

So what about “God” or “The Creator” or any other deity? Why didn’t he/she/them warn the people? Who knows? I can’t ask them can I, but I can certainly ask you as you’re posting here right? Oops! You’re “gods”, sons of Elohim, aliens, nephillim, etc, so I actually am asking God right? WRONG.

Now before I close out, I need to state the obvious, but as usual, the feeble minded will utilize selective reading and fallacies to turn this topic upside down.

THE OBVIOUS: This is not a rant. I’m asking questions rooted in deductive and inductive reasoning, and while some questions are rhetorical, others require answers rooted in deductive and inductive reasoning. Furthermore, I am not attacking any religion nor am I blaming this on “god”. As previously stated, you’re the one posting here, you’re the ones making all these claims as if you’re part of a higher power or speaking on behalf of a higher power so I’m asking you. You’re the ones with the crystal balls, indigo powers, remote viewing skills, telepathy etc so I’m asking you the question. Why did all the Aliens, Indigo Children, Time Travelers, Mystics, Enlightened, Psychics, etc FAIL to predict the EQ in Haiti?

EMPIRE


EDITED TO ADD: Mods/admin, I placed this in the Fragile Earth section because this is about Haiti and the recent earthquake. If this is not the correct forum, I'd appreciate it if you would move it to the correct forum.

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because of xenu and his galactic evil forcce of operating thetans. haven't you seen tom cruise explain it all?

geez man get with the program.

Maybe because the above mentioned "super- human(oids)" are too busy dealing with more mundane problems of thier own to predict an earthquake? Maybe the emotional disturbances themselves vibrating between humans helped initiate the shake down of Haiti, and was in fact a blessing in disguise to have been not predicted.. We can't live in sublime natural disaster-free existence for ever, woe is humanity, and you still alive, for a frikkin earthquake. I'm sorry people had to die, but that's just the way life is on a physical rumbling tumbling landscape. At least it was quick (hopefully) for a lot of them.

Well, this is only a legit question if one were to ASSUME that the aforementioned are ALL Knowing.... Otherwise, it's a fallacious question

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Follow the sunspots for now. Another big one like 1040 could create problems. Almost certainly a group of them would be dangerous.

Predicting things is very difficult. Too many variables.

For entertainment purposes only:


PREDICT ACTIVE HURRICANE SEASON IN THE US FOR THIS YEAR.

Although I agree with SpeakerofTruth, my answer on behalf of those you question legitimately, would be...

Because everything in this world, my friend, happens exactly as it's supposed to happen -- whether we're prepared to accept that or not.

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Because if the "Aliens, Indigo Children, Time Travelers, Mystics, Enlightened, Psychics, etc" are as BIG as some claim to be.....factor in the size of the universe.....I think an Earthquake in Haiti would seem like a pretty small natural disaster compared to something like a Supernova, which could easily destroy all life in an entire solar system.

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True, but when you specifically make the claims that you're coming to help Earth, or that you have knowledge pertaining to the destruction or advancement of civilization then what?

Originally posted by EMPIRE
Here it is real people have died, real people are suffering, children are now orphans, families are torn apart, disease may spread, etc, yet NONE of you people with “special” talents (take the word special however you want) were able to lift a finger before this tragedy. You would figure something of this magnitude, which has caused this much damage (death, collapse of infrastructure, etc) would have been at the TOP of your list but it wasn’t. My question is WHY?

Maybe it was supposed to happen, maybe all those people were supposed to die. Just because you feel it's such a terrible tragedy doesn't mean it is. Perhaps it was a necessary twist of Fate.

It certainly wasn't an act of God, as some people like to call natural disasters.

The deal is, psychics and all those paranormal types only see what they are allowed to see by whatever forces there are in the Great Beyond. If they were supposed see the Haitian catastrophe, they would have seen it.

Even if they had seen it and sounded the alarm a year ago, do you seriously think the island would have evacuated? Just because some "psychic" said a great tragedy was coming?

Hell no, they wouldn't evacuate the island. That's nonsense. So, the same tragedy would occur with the same loss of life. Doesn't matter if it was foretold or not.

— Doc Velocity

Because none of it is really about physical.

Consciousness is eternal - - physical is an experience.

It hard to predict the catalyst that something this magnitude will be to humanity. Most people who are unchallenged by adversity will happily stay in the status quo. And unfortunately many lessons are learned that may later save a larger number of lives.

We are pretty stubborn as a race, and hopefully the tragedies will not continue to become bigger and bigger until we begin to act from a place of love and learn to work together rather than from a place of egocentrism....I guarantee, if we as a race continue to be selfish, the lessons will get more difficult and we'll be forced to learn to rely on one another.

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Originally posted by Navieko
Because everything in this world, my friend, happens exactly as it's supposed to happen -- whether we're prepared to accept that or not.

Exactly. And how many times have psychic predictions prevented the loss of life? I mean, seriously, show me a documented case.

The most celebrated of all tragedy predictions was by the late "psychic" Jeanne Dixon, when she not only accurately predicted the assassination of JFK, but she personally contacted the president and begged him not to go to Dallas, Texas, because he was going to be killed there.

Nobody took her seriously, and JFK was assassinated accordingly.

The only upshot of all this was that Jeanne Dixon became the most famous psychic in the world, but she never again scored a bullseye prediction, and she ended up as a syndicated horoscope writer — which is like the bottom of the barrel of psychic employment, right?

Now, really, who takes predictions seriously and would order an entire country evacuated because of a psychic prediction, anyway?

— Doc Velocity

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Maybe it was supposed to happen, maybe all those people were supposed to die.

Yet no one got the message beforehand?

Just because you feel it's such a terrible tragedy doesn't mean it is.

The general consensus amongst the world is it is a terrible tragedy. In fact, the people who lost family in the quake feel it is a terrible tragedy.

Perhaps it was a necessary twist of Fate.

And what do you base this on? Moreover, even if it were a necessary twist of fate, how does that reduce it from being tragic?

It certainly wasn't an act of God, as some people like to call natural disasters.

Some people will blame God, some people have even blamed the Haitians themselves. However, my questions is about the people who claim to have these fancy powers yet NEVER predicted this tragedy or, according to you, what may have perhaps been a “necessary twist of fate.”

The deal is, psychics and all those paranormal types only see what they are allowed to see by whatever forces there are in the Great Beyond.

Ok let’s see what do we have here: psychics, time travelers, aliens from this sector, indigo children, aliens from that sector, people who’ve lived countless lives, people who are grand masters in esoteric lodges, people who can channel the spirits of John the Baptist, people who actually claim to be John the Baptist...and none of them are “allowed” to see a quake that has a death tally that is still unknown? So what are these “forces” you speak of and where is this Great Beyond?

If they were supposed see the Haitian catastrophe, they would have seen it.

See above. All these people are claiming to help mankind and none of them were able to predict this catastrophe? So what are the prerequisites of seeing a tragedy like this?

Even if they had seen it and sounded the alarm a year ago, do you seriously think the island would have evacuated?

See, now we get launched back into reality. The only person who said anything about an earthquake in Haiti was someone familiar with science. Are you saying all these great mystics were passed on so a scientist could be given an inside scoop? Moreover, in regards to what I think about the people evacuating, if they would or would not is speculation. However, what is not speculation is they weren’t told by any mystics, indigo children, and not even by their own voodoo priests that a quake was going to hit.

Just because some "psychic" said a great tragedy was coming?

See above.

Hell no, they wouldn't evacuate the island. That's nonsense. So, the same tragedy would occur with the same loss of life. Doesn't matter if it was foretold or not.

Because the claims by the people I’ve mentioned in my OP is nonsense. That is the reason why no one would believe.

reply to post by Doc Velocity

In 1956 Dixon "predicted":

As for the 1960 election Mrs. Dixon thinks it will be dominated by labor and won by a Democrat. But he will be assassinated or die in office 'though not necessarily in his first term.'

But wait, there's more. In 1960 she "predicted":

John F. Kennedy would fail to win the presidency.

Shouldn't the later prediction superceed the older one? With all "psychics" the trick seems to be in using the shotgun technique. Make a whole lot of vague predictions and your chances of getting something sorta, kinda right at some point improve. Just don't be too specific. That can get you into trouble.

I've gotten two separate visions about things to come. Not disasters, but a random boxer, and a technological hindrance to a particular cellphone.

Not going to talk about it because I'm waiting to see.

Originally posted by Phage
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In 1956 Dixon "predicted":

As for the 1960 election Mrs. Dixon thinks it will be dominated by labor and won by a Democrat. But he will be assassinated or die in office 'though not necessarily in his first term.'

But wait, there's more. In 1960 she "predicted":

John F. Kennedy would fail to win the presidency.

Shouldn't the later prediction superceed the older one? With all "psychics" the trick seems to be in using the shotgun technique. Make a whole lot of vague predictions and your chances of getting something sorta, kinda right at some point improve. Just don't be too specific. That can get you into trouble.

Re: Predictions

Someone on this very site predicted the destruction of New Orleans in July, 2005 before witnesses. Witnesses who could take an oath with penalty of perjury. But, predictors are often wrong, too. The future is not carved in stone.

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Did this person claim to be a psychic or anything like that? Did the person go to New Orleans or contact people in New Orleans with a warning? Finally, can you link me to the person and threads pertaining to this prediction?

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Originally posted by EMPIRE
The general consensus amongst the world is it is a terrible tragedy.

Is the general consensus that psychics "failed" to avert this "tragedy"? That's preposterous. If you don't believe it yourself, then what is the purpose of pointing the finger?

Originally posted by EMPIRE
none of them are “allowed” to see a quake that has a death tally that is still unknown?

Who says they should be allowed to predict such things? Where is the precedent for the success of such predictions? My point is, why should anyone believe? There's no precedent for taking action on such claims, unless you happen to know of a precedent that I don't know about.

— Doc Velocity




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The earthquake was unexpected and a terrible surprise. Haiti? I can't think of anyone seeing this coming.

But still, certain "intuitives" can be helpful when looking into the future. Hope help comes to the people of Haiti.

Originally posted by Phage
With all "psychics" the trick seems to be in using the shotgun technique. Make a whole lot of vague predictions and your chances of getting something sorta, kinda right at some point improve. Just don't be too specific. That can get you into trouble.

Regardless of how generalized were her predictions, Dixon was celebrated for years as the psychic who predicted JFK's assassination. Obviously, the "trick" worked, unless it wasn't a "trick"... In any event, the outcome would have been the same, whether or not Dixon's prediction was a "trick" — even if it was an actual psychic event, JFK didn't heed her warnings, and he was killed. Whether or not Dixon's prediction was a "trick." she still became famous worldwide.

Nothing changed, really.

Again, my point is, why point the finger at "psychics" when there's no real evidence that psychics have ever changed the course of history?

It's not really a heated topic, is it?

— Doc Velocity