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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by johnny2127
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Imagine if it was the opposite where guns used by terroists or insurgents had koran quotes, there would be so much spotlight on that.
Actually, if the terrorist rifles and weapons had Koran passages on them, the same people complaining about the US rifles sights would be defending them. There would be no spotlight at all on their weapons if there was passages from the Koran. The only reason this is even news is because of the 'blame America first' and 'blame Christians' groups in liberal America. The same groups who ask for tolerance and understand of our enemies, but then are the most intolerant and bigoted towards conservatives and Christians in our own nation.
that is a MASSIVE generalization!
I am against this and I wouldn't defend it if it had koran passages on it and i'm guessing neither would the others in this thread.
You are actually grouping everybody in one group because you feel that some of them feel this way.
That's called a fallacious syllogism
Originally posted by mrmonsoon
reply to post by Aeons
I may be mistaken...
But it sure seems to me as if YOU are saying it is ok for muslims to do it but from for anyone else???
That sounds about as muslium as possible.
It is ok if they do it but wrong if anyone else does it???
Originally posted by Aeons
You are not fighting a holy war.
The people you are fighting ARE fighting a holy war.
Originally posted by johnny2127
Inscriptions on rifle sights are not going to suddenly convince more people to join Al Qaeda.
X is an archaic form of abbreviation for Christ and/or Christian that was derived from the cross and the Greek Alphabet. X or Chi is the Greek letter that is the initial of "Christos" - X - which at the same time served as a symbol for the cross. Sometimes written Chi-Rho, (Xp) is another abbreviation for Christos and his followers, the Christians. From the perspective of medieval Christian symbology, 'Xe' is a combination of the Christic cross and the Greek letter, Epsilon, the first letter in the Greek word, Evangelion, glad tidings or gospel. From the perspective of a modern member of the Knights Templar, Xe is immediately recognizable as it symbolizes Christian Evangelism.
In 2004, the current pope signed a letter to the Bishops in the United States warning the laity not to vote for Catholic candidates who had voted in favor of women's rights to abortion. Cardinal Ratzinger's letter weakened the campaign of John Kerry and strengthened George W. Bush who had used the term, "crusade," to rally his forces shortly after 9/11. Speaking in Regensburg in 2006, Pope Benedict XVI made insensitive remarks about the Islamic faith that caused outrage in the Muslim world.
In an affidavit lodged with a court in Virginia, one of the witnesses said that Mr Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe." The statement continues
To that end, Mr. Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades.
Mr. Prince operated his companies in a manner that encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life.
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— Deuteronomy 20:1-4
1 When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours, do not be afraid of them, because the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt, will be with you. 2 When you are about to go into battle, the priest shall come forward and address the army. 3 He shall say: "Hear, O Israel, today you are going into battle against your enemies. Do not be fainthearted or afraid; do not be terrified or give way to panic before them. 4 For the LORD your God is the one who goes with you to fight for you against your enemies to give you victory."
Originally posted by flyingfish
What? your saying they don't have snipers?They don't hide? Wow what fantasy land do live in.
Originally posted by Aeons
And what is your holy war then MA? What is its purpose.
You realize you cannot have it both or more ways. It is either about trade, or it is about politics or it is about God. Or do you just spew this stuff in every direction hoping a little sticks where ever so long as it suits you?
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
I mean, come on... We all know that ALL the strife in the Middle East is a result of the West's intervention there in the creation of the state of Israel, and in defending Israel against its many enemies in the Middle East.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by Aeons
And what is your holy war then MA? What is its purpose.
You realize you cannot have it both or more ways. It is either about trade, or it is about politics or it is about God. Or do you just spew this stuff in every direction hoping a little sticks where ever so long as it suits you?
For some it's about religion for some about money for some about thinking they are doing the right thing.
Just like terroists, some of them do it for religion while others do it because they are against foreign occupation.
If you think there can only be one reason is like saying everyone here on ATS think exactly the same just because we are all under the ATS umbrella.
I do not have all the answers, just don't think that you however DO!
Originally posted by Aeons
No matter how much you try and convince the general populace of the West that they are fighting a holy war....you're going to fail at it. Because, the fact is that we aren't. We don't care to, and aren't motivated by it. To have that as a concept, you'd have the have religion being the source of leadership of the entire legal and political state... But in the West, we absolutely do not have that.
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by flyingfish
What? your saying they don't have snipers?They don't hide? Wow what fantasy land do live in.
The point is, wise-ass, that WE DON'T blow ourselves up in the name of God.
They DO.
They ARE fighting a holy war and they admit it. We don't.
— Doc Velocity
Originally posted by johnny2127
Buddy, I hate to tell you but the middle east had been fighting itself long before Israel was ever created or the US 'intervened'.
Originally posted by flyingfish
Obviously I misunderstood your post you don't have to resort to name calling.Are you trying to hurt my feelings.