Starship Warp Speed near Saturn?

Originally posted by Cigar
There are absolutely large alien ships within the rings of Saturn, it's been known for 24 years.

The Ringmakers is well known here at ATS but what makes you say they are Alien Ships? Given you are talking in absolutes, tell us what distinguishes them from natural objects. Given we don't have an Alien ship 31,000 miles (your quote) long to compare it to, how can anyone be certain? Has anyone been up close and seen it to verify?

or is it just conjecture and fanciful thinking?

Because someone wrote a book, it doesn't make it proof unto itself. It's just literature... and unconfirmed at that.

In the book he has a photo of a ship that's over 31,000 miles long

No... He has a photo of objects!

Alien technology or not, it seems physically improbable to have something that large. What magical material could it be made of to ensure the gravitation of Saturn doesn't tear it to pieces? What kind of energy source would it use to propel itself and protect itself from said gravitation?

Nonetheless, none of what you are saying backs up anything the Op has claimed!

IRM

[edit on 20/1/10 by InfaRedMan]

Hello guys, I saw that this 3AD you posted anomalies of the Cassini mission.

Now, every day, I study the images of the probe for Lunar Explorer Italia and I revenue all the scientific data that I can be derived.

I don't know if it's already been discussed on other 3AD but there is a sequence, in my opinion, equally significant. These are images of some time ago where you can see a "body" through the rings. So we're not talking about something that orbit but something that follows a trajectory.

Look carefully at the path of the object and the initial change of direction.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/def82645acb2.gif[/atsimg]
Source: www.lunexit.it...

Lately we store it on our site and in that time, I tried to do the some calculations. I state that they can not be precise: in fact we lack the space in which the object moves to have all the necessary parameters. So, are to be understood as an approximation.

Basically I tried to calculate the apparent speed of the object from point to point. The calculations were made using all available data: the time of the shooting, the probe distance from the rings, fast paced calculated according to the size of the rings are recognizable in the photos ....

Here's speed:

35,60 km/s
74.75 km/s
35,60 km/s
45,00 km/s
19,21 km/s
35,75 km/s
44,50 km/s
14,30 km/s
41,53 km/s
38,78 km/s
43,69 km/s
41,57 km/s

It could be a natural body? I do not know but its behavior is very strange ...

Sorry for my English, I hope I have not made too many mistakes and that I explained! : )

[edit on 21/3/10 by 2_of_7]

[edit on 21/3/10 by 2_of_7]

reply to post by 2_of_7


First off, can you give use the numbers of the originals used in that animated Gif, Thanks.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0e51cc5fe460.jpg[/atsimg]

This effect I have explained in multiple threads I think you tell get the good doctor to read the Cassi FAQ for more details.




[edit on 21-3-2010 by nophun]

[edit on 21-3-2010 by nophun]

reply to post by nophun


From N00064454 to N00064467

reply to post by 2_of_7

This is what I find, I did not find a page with times or dates anywhere on the Cassini Website. Can you help me out again by linking this thanks

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...
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saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...
saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...

As we know one image can take up to 20 minutes to fully take, without exact time stamps and knowing what setting are being used I don't see how we can judge the speeds.

Am I missing a page with info on that pages on images N00064454 - N00064467 ?

There is lots of issues here, First these are not real time videos and we apparently do not know the setting of the camera at the time of these images.


Edit: You sure these are the images that make up the animated gif ?
I dont got time to take a closer look atm .. I will tonght

[edit on 21-3-2010 by nophun]

reply to post by nophun


I had not even more the links because this images are very old, I had only saved data. However, are all available in the Atlas with all data.

Here are the main references.

N00064454.jpg
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 10 : 15.424
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532680891
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532680891.118

N00064455.jpg
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 11 : 27.432
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532680963
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532680963.120

N00064456.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 3200.000000
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 12 : 07.435
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681003
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532681003.121

N00064457.jpg
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 12 : 55.439
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N00064458.jpg
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N00064459.jpg
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 14 : 15.442
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681131
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532681131.123

N00064460.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 10000.000000
FILTER_NAME = ( RED , IR1 )
IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 15 : 03.450
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681179
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N00064461.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 32000.000000
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N00064462.jpg
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 17 : 03.457
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681299
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532681299.127

N00064463.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 180000.000000
FILTER_NAME = ( IR4 , CL2 )
IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 20 : 39.456
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681515
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532681515.127

N00064464.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 220000.000000
FILTER_NAME = ( IR4 , IR3 )
IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 25 : 19.458
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681795
PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532681795.128

N00064465.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 38000.000000
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IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 26 : 47.465
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PRODUCT_ID = 1_N1532681883.130

N00064466.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 22000.000000
FILTER_NAME = ( CL1 , IR3 )
IMAGE_TIME = 2006 - 208T08 : 27 : 59.464
IMAGE_NUMBER = 1532681955
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N00064467.jpg
EXPOSURE_DURATION = 180000.000000
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However, to clarify, the speed changes are not to join in the wake of the object, that depends exclusively on exposure times.

EDIT: Cassini's distance from the rings: from 1817574 to 1821124

[edit on 22/3/10 by 2_of_7]

[edit on 22/3/10 by 2_of_7]

reply to post by Imagir


Gravitational waves travel at the speed of light. Gravitational waves are not the same as gravity waves. The latter are types of phenomena which occur all over the earth, like in oceans. What was seen in Saturn appear to be the normal dynamics of matter responding to gravity and other forces.

Not fluctuations in the space-time metric.

reply to post by mbkennel


G'day mbkennel

The op has been banned.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by supyo
What's the point of that ridiculous, obviously dubbed in "space sound" in the video? Stuff like that makes me thing this was put together by some 13 year old out there.

That is the sound of Saturn. Granted it is dubbed on but it is the true sound of Saturn.

Originally posted by nophun
Dude if you really think that that is not a satellite of Saturn, even after reading my post there is no changing your mind

Just ignore my posts

I will keep posting the truth backed with facts and science for other ATS members who really want to learn/know.

You completely ignored my post explaining what you are seeing in the images.

Simple explanation of these images.

Images N00055539 to N00055561 were taken as a sort time lapse.
Image N00055562 was the last image took using a longer expose time (up to 20 minutes.)
Image N00055563 shows they changed targets after images N00055562.

What I assume you explanation is ....
N00055539 to N00055562 real time video of a space ship hitting warp speed.
N00055563 ... Wait .. you completely ignored the fact the image COMPLETELY changes right after N00055562.


Crap dude .. I gave you a easy to believe explanation that it 100% logical .. and you attack me about hijacking a tread ... please.

[edit on 18-1-2010 by nophun]

The images that make the video "Warp Speed" ranging from N00055539 - 62.
These images now stored in the Atlas so we have many available data.

Were taken March 20, 2006 from 10:46:48.470 to 11:20:40.441.
The Narrow Angle Camera Cassini pointed toward sky.

The last image before the object's movement was taken at 11:19:22.449 and the white trail visible in the final image is the result of the body's movement in 38 seconds, that is the time of exposure of the last photo.

[edit on 25/3/10 by 2_of_7]

Ok, first thing the stupid dubbed space sound sucks, it sounds like something out of a low budget 80's movie, and i dont see a spaceship at all, all i see is a shiny sphere, and that could be anything, especially out there, since i already beleive in aliens and a bunch of other insane stuff, then i think i can beleive in cool looking spaceship thats not a shiny sphear thankyou.

Starship! Huh?

Warp Speed! Huh?

Crap? Yep!

And so the OP got banned! Hallelujah!!

Thank God for small mercies!

The fact that it can be an object with warp speed, is clearly a provocation: in fact, however, we are facing a phenomenon not clear.
That object can safely be called U.F.O. (unidentified flying object), is not a cosmic ray or the trail left by a particle (in the Cassini pictures there are millions of examples of these things) and is not a shift due to the probe, as is clearly explained in the video.

reply to post by InfaRedMan


infra,

oh dear. here you are again demanding people's pedigrees before they can use their eyeballs.

i'm surprised you didn't ask him his blood type and religious background.



[edit on 27-6-2010 by undo]