Middle East on fire

I do not want to ruin your thread ,full with objectivity and positive thoughts. But i think that it absolutely essential (and totally in spirit of most posts here) to notify all that Israeli trucks are about to invade into Syria.

Israeli trucks cross into Syria ...

www.haaretz.com...
World war 4.5 is upon us.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
I do not want to ruin your thread ,full with objectivity and positive thoughts. But i think that it absolutely essential (and totally in spirit of most posts here) to notify all that Israeli trucks are about to invade into Syria.

Israeli trucks cross into Syria ...

www.haaretz.com...
World war 4.5 is upon us.

I don't always agree with your point of view.

But I respect your opinion , and point of view.

When i saw you post that , and what you wrote.

I was like HOLY CRAP.

Nice story sir, made me laugh, and sigh relief.

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Israel treading carefully to avoid war with Syria

U.S., Israel Worry Over Hizbullah Possession of Rockets Capable of Bringing Down F-16s

U.S. and Israeli concerns mounted after Syria reportedly supplied Hizbullah with rockets capable of brining down F-16 warplanes.
Chief of Research at the Israeli army has uncovered that Syria recently provided Hizbullah with Russian-made surface-to-air missiles type "GLA 9K338" which can bring down reconnaissance planes, helicopter gunships and advanced F-16 fighter jets, which form the backbone of the Israeli air force.

He told the Foreign and Security Committee in the Knesset that
"this dangerous development is a strategic shift in the balance of power in Lebanon."

"Israel cannot remain silent on that," he warned.

Meanwhile, Russian news agency Novosti reported that Hizbullah's possession of sophisticated Russian-made surface-to-air "Igla" type rockets will hold back the Israeli air force from destroying the projectiles Hizbullah own for fear of bringing down the attacking jet fighters.

Novosti quoted sources in Moscow as saying that these missiles are shoulder-mounted and cannot be detected by radar or obliterated by any means.

Finally some real air defense for Lebanon.

Israel Avoiding Scenario of 'War with Syria,' Limiting it to Hizbullah, Hamas

It said a General Staff exercise code-named Firestones-12 last week did not include the scenario of a war with Syria -- only a clash with Hizbullah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

Although originally considered, the report said, the Israeli army opted not to include an element in the exercise that required the rushing of large numbers of conscript soldiers to the north, so that the Syrians would not mistake this as an offensive.

01:13 Key Western powers send revised proposal for new Iran sanctions to Russia, China (AP)

Aka only sanctions on nuclear activities.

10:33 China says it will continue to push for diplomatic solution on Iran (AP)

Yep.

13:08 U.S., EU urge Syria to drop nuclear secrecy (AP)

It's funny they don't say that to Israel...

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Palestinians mark 1,000 days of Israel's blockade on Gaza

02:34 U.S. Gen. Petraeus: Iran continuing efforts to produce nuclear weapon (Israel Radio)

In other news, Israel already have nukes.

07:55 Conversion bill threatens to dismantle government coalition (Ch. 10)

Wouldn't that be sad, seeing Netanyahu and his dog, Lieberman, leave government...awwwww

09:21 Min. Steinitz: I don`t believe the Palestinians want their own state (Israel Radio)

Yeah that is a retarded comment.

09:55 Erekat: Netanyahu won`t agree to a two-state solution (Israel Radio)

Duh?

11:42 Erekat: This will be the last U.S. attempt to mediate PA-Israel talks (Reuters)

Somehow I doubt that, but way to go to stir up tensions.

14:02 Barak: Iran isn`t an existential threat to Israel, but has potential to be (Haaretz)

Isn't, won't be, even if they got nukes.

GAO: What does the US export to Iran? Who knows?
Yeah who knows, oh wait, back in 2006, there was articles about HALLIBURTON selling NUCLEAR PARTS to IRAN.

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Iran to Allow China to Drill in the Gulf

Ain't that interesting?

IDF: Sanctions will have limited effect on Iran
Oh the IDF have really thought about this one.. hahahaha

Biden in Israel after pledging U.S. support on Iran

assuring Israelis in a newspaper interview that Washington would close ranks with them against any threat from a nuclear-armed Iran.

Aka the US accepts if Iran becomes a nuclear state and won't do anything against it, except sanctions.

GOOD. NO WAR UNLESS ISRAEL STARTS IT and without US help, it's less likely that they will start one, especially with Barak comments that Iran isn't an existancial threat to Israel.

WAR CANCELLED AGAINST IRAN FOR NOW.

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Missed one, but great post nonetheless.....

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Two-year F-35 production delay hits Israel

Yeah like they need F-35s when their neighboors have crappy 1960s aircrafts... The only advantage the F-35 could have for Israel is the vertical landing/take off capabilities. They can easily have air dominance with their F-15i and the other toys they have.

21:06 IDF Chief Ashkenazi visiting Washington for talks with U.S. defense officials (Haaretz)

More talks of sanctions probably.

10:53 PA: We will declare a Palestinian state if no progress made with Israel (Israel Radio)

Yeah that might push things..

11:42 Syria interested in developing nuclear energy (AP)

Will Israel bomb them again?

Israeli Official: West Has 4-8 Weeks Left for Iran Diplomacy

Adding to the harsh rhetoric coming out of the nation is recent days, Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon today announced that the nation was giving the West another 4-8 weeks to attempt diplomacy with Iran, and that after that they would have to impose crippling sanctions on the nation.

Israel’s threats against Iran are not new, but the growing number of US official visits in recent days are seen as being at least in part based on fear that an Israeli attack could be in the offing.

Since crippling sanctions against Iran are most likely to fail because of Russia and China, I expect a war within 3-4 months... The fact is that all but one israeli wars happened during summer, Israel wouldn't wait another year, since they would have to wait until summer 2011 and that in their mind might be too late.

Anyway, all signs are there since december 2009 for a summer war in 2010...

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Iran has put a tremendous amount of resources into it's proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas as well as going so far as to try to pu in a nuclear facility in Syria.

And then there's all the uncalled for provocative rhetoric and accusations.

Iran is clear;y goading and compromising Israel hoping for a strong response. The game plan was for others t join in on a regional effort retaliatory effort against Israel.

Hamas has recently conceded they can no longer administer Gaza effectively and Hezbollah is in a similar funding situation according to the Middle East press in that Iran is expecting results for their sponsorship and supplies of missiles.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard is constantly training groups to fight and there's little question who the intended enemy is.

Though Iran likes to act coy, they've been preparing for an Israeli response for a long time. But they wanted it to be against their proxies and not them directly. They know in an outright war especially with the US interceding - they're toast. They have no real air force just for starters.

Iran will try to save face, look innocent and persecuted. Bu they never know if Israel will call their bluff in this war of nerves.

Iran will try to do something to further upset Israel but in the end they do no want to risk direct confrontation.

Originally posted by mmiichael
Iran has put a tremendous amount of resources into it's proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas as well as going so far as to try to pu in a nuclear facility in Syria.

And then there's all the uncalled for provocative rhetoric and accusations.

Iran is clear;y goading and compromising Israel hoping for a strong response. The game plan was for others t join in on a regional effort retaliatory effort against Israel.

Hamas has recently conceded they can no longer administer Gaza effectively and Hezbollah is in a similar funding situation according to the Middle East press in that Iran is expecting results for their sponsorship and supplies of missiles.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard is constantly training groups to fight and there's little question who the intended enemy is.

Though Iran likes to act coy, they've been preparing for an Israeli response for a long time. But they wanted it to be against their proxies and not them directly. They know in an outright war especially with the US interceding - they're toast. They have no real air force just for starters.

Iran will try to save face, look innocent and persecuted. Bu they never know if Israel will call their bluff in this war of nerves.

Iran will try to do something to further upset Israel but in the end they do no want to risk direct confrontation.

You posted this WORD FOR WORD in this thread just now...

Pathetic

Originally posted by Retrovertigo

You posted this WORD FOR WORD in this thread just now...

Pathetic

I took the liberty of reposting my own message as I consider it relevant to two related threads I'm following.

Nice work in dismissing it while supplying zero actual analysis or refutation.

That's how arguments usually run around here.


Pathetic

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Palestinians: East Jerusalem construction plan ends Mideast peace talks

15:41 Banks urge Americans to close investment accounts in Israel (Haaretz)

What is going on here?

16:32 Iran: We have successfully launched missile from navy destroyer (Israel Radio)

So the cruise missiles are already installed on ships? Nice.

16:39 Iran signs security agreement with Qatar (DPA)

Interesting, maybe there was some truth to those debka reports.

17:15 Interior Ministry approves 1,600 new East Jerusalem housing units (Haaretz)

So it's over for peace?

19:27 Hezbollah, rival Sunni groups resume national talks in Lebanon (AP)

Good may bring more stability to Lebanon.

Israel Calls Off Maneuvers Near Lebanon, Syria after U.S. Pressure
Finally US pressure is at least useful for one thing.

06:18 UN condemns Israel`s plan to build 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem (Reuters)
11:21 EU foreign policy director condemns East Jerusalem building plan (DPA)
15:04 Biden: Israeli settlement plan undermines peace efforts (Reuters)
15:35 Germany criticizes Israel`s E. J`lem housing plan, says decision `not acceptable` (DPA)
17:45 France brands Israeli decision on new homes in Jerusalem `illegal` (DPA)

Only Israel seems to think it's a good idea.

10:09 Report: 500,000 Israeli homes not linked to sewage system (Haaretz)

What about BEFORE expanding and pissing off everyone in the neighboorhood, they modernize the homes they already have?

14:55 Abbas adviser: All land conquered in `67 war must be part of peace deal (Israel Radio)

Duh.

News article about the US telling Israel what to do, more or less....




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Nouri al-Maliki and Ayad Allawi both claim victory in Iraq elections

Both are pro-west so no worries there.

China-US ties strained like never before

Indirect Israel talks 'called off'

As Gaza blockade nears 1,000-day milestone, UN official warns situation worsens

Hamas releases British journalist Paul Martin

09:46 Biden told Abbas he was purposely late to a dinner with Netanyahu (Haaretz)

WOW! What a bad boy... he really showed him who was the boss... SERIOUSLY IS THIS GUY A THIRD GRADER OR WHAT?

12:23 Biden: `Israel owes its success to its democratic tradition` (Haaretz)

Except their journalist freedom is going down the drain, and their success is only due to staying within themselves, like they always did and also US support at the UN and in money/arms, NOT because they are democratic.

12:26 Biden: `Every day Israel faces bravely threats no country should have to endure` (Haaretz)

Yeah they could have fixed that long ago with a peace treaty.

12:33 Biden: Iranians suffering under leadership that supports terrorism (Haaretz)

Yeah if you would stop your BS threats against Iran, the iranian government wouldn't have the boogeyman as a reason to stay in power. Nor to mention that Iran liked us in 2001 but Bush blew it all away in his Axis Of Terror speech BS. And BTW, the americans are also suffering under leadership that supports terrorism.

12:34 Biden: `Iran has refused to co-operate` (Haaretz)

Yeah except they suspended their enrichment for 3 years, then bow down to your every request but still you are making threats towards them and are just blind to the double standards.

12:35 Biden: `The U.S. is determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons` (Haaretz)

Yeah except the US can't stop Iran from having nuclear weapons (if they are developping them) unless they invade or use nuclear weapons.

12:43 Biden: `This is no way to live. the cycle of violence must be broken` (Haaretz)

Maybe you should stop invading countries then? Or blow up economies?

Ne w FBI Files Alleging AIPAC Theft of Government Property and Israeli Espionage Released

When you have friends like that, you don't really need enemies.

EU Endorses Goldstone Report
+1

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Two Israeli tanks have crossed their technical fence near the border with Lebanon two kilometers south of the disputed Ghajar village.

The United Nations peacekeeping forces in Lebanon, also known as the UNIFIL, were present in the area along with Lebanese Armed Forces to make sure that the Israeli forces did not cross the UN demarcated Blue Line.

UNIFIL Spokesperson Neeraj Singh told Press TV no violation has occurred as the Israeli tanks did not actually cross the Blue Line.

This is while Lebanese airspace is being constantly violated by Israeli fighter jets which at times break sound barriers over villages in southern parts of the country

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Israeli forces, tanks make incursion into Gaza''s Bureij camp

Israeli tanks cross technical fence near Lebanon

More clashes in al-Aqsa as tensions sore

A Nuclear Iran: The only way to make Israel serious about Middle East peace?

I would say yes. The only way to make a bully follow rules is to be able to kick his ass if he doesn't follow rules like everybody else.

09:36 U.K. working to stop the issuing of arrest warrants for Israeli officials (Ch. 10)

Yeah we see who's really running the UK.

2:36pm MTV: 2 Israeli tanks crossed the border and took position on al-Wazzani hill.

UNIFIL: Two Israeli tanks did not cross Blue Line

UNIFIL spokesperson Neeraj Singh issued a statement that on Friday at 11:40 a.m. two Israeli tanks crossed the Israeli security fence two kilometers from the Al-Ghajar village, where they remained until 1 p.m.

However, the Israelis did not cross the Blue Line, he added.

Provocations?

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Lula Says Leaders Afraid Israel May Attack Iran If Talks Fail

“The leaders I spoke to believe that we must act quickly, otherwise Israel will attack Iran,” Lula said, adding that sanctions against Iran could be counterproductive. “We can’t allow happen in Iran what happened in Iraq. Before any sanctions, we must undertake all possible efforts to try and build peace in the Middle East.”

UK threatens China with isolation over Iran

Big talk for a bankrupt country like the UK.


Knesset Member Ahmed Tibi has lashed out over the treatment of American lawmakers brought to Israel by the J Street organization, warning that unconditional U.S. support for Israel is on the wane.

A senior U.S. official says Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to complain bluntly about Israel's announcement this week of new housing settlements in East Jerusalem.

Israel seals off West Bank as tensions rise

Iran's gamesmanship of using the Palestinians as a means to provoke Israel into a retaliatory strike may be coming to a close.
Hezbollah has complained Iran threatens cut them off unless they see some action and those missiles being fired. Lebanon is not going to fall under Iranian influence, the Saudis are keeping Iran out of Yemen, and now Fatah have their own complaints.

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TUNIS (AFP) - Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas lashed out at Iran on Friday, blaming Tehran for being behind the latest failure to reconcile his secular Fatah movement with its Islamist rival Hamas.

"Iran doesn't want Hamas to sign the Cairo reconciliation document," Abbas said during a meeting in the Tunisian capital.

Fatah and Hamas struggled for months to reach a unity deal under Egyptian mediation, but the efforts collapsed late last year when Hamas refused to agree to a proposal that was signed by Fatah.

Abbas said that while Hamas' leaders had initially indicated their approval of the document, they later began putting forth excuses to refuse to sign.

The Fatah leader said his goal was to "pull our people out from Iranian tutelage".

Hamas routed Fatah from the Gaza Strip in 2007 after deadly fighting, a year after winning Palestinian legislative elections.

New legislative elections were due to have been held early this year, but they have since been postponed indefinitely as Hamas refuses to allow any vote in Gaza without a unity agreement with Abbas's Fatah movement.

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23:20 UN worried by war of words between Israel, Lebanon (Reuters)

Well duh.

00:16 Quartet condemns Israel over East Jerusalem building plans (AP)

05:28 Pro-Israel group: U.S. criticism of Israel unprecedented (DPA)

So what, it's fake.

08:56 U.S. official: Netanyahu`s political standing is `perilous` (Reuters)

Yep but not over relations, more like intern problems and the opposition that could use this theater as a reason to take over.

09:34 Clinton: Israel`s announcement of new settlement building `insulting` to U.S. (Haaretz)

Is the US finally finding his nuts? Probably not.

13:25 PA: U.S. promising to stop Israel`s building in East Jerusalem (Ch.10)

Yeah like they gonna keep their promise..

14:46 Hezbollah: U.S. behind Israel`s building in East Jerusalem (Ch.10)

Yep. Everything else is just for show.

15:34 Top EU diplomat: Europe has leverage to urge Israel to renew peace talks (Reuters)

Yep. Still won't use it.

17:08 Finland FM: There is `consensus enough` among EU members on Iran sanctions (DPA)

Still I doubt China and/or Russia would agree.

17:27 Israeli ambassador to U.S. Michael Oren: No crisis between the two countries (Ch. 2)

Indeed.

20:17 Netanyahu: I am shocked by U.S. condemnations (Haaretz)

Yeah sure you are. Keep the theater going for the sheeple. Or to ``invite`` an attack on Israel by pretending it is weak and no more supported by the west.

Brazil stresses Iran's role in ME, rejects sanctions

ADL 'stunned' by U.S. condemnation of Israel
Oh noes! The terrorists at ADL are angry!

Until the US cuts all funding, military support and military aid, I call BS on relations going down the drain.

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Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.

Uh oh.

'Jerusalem construction will go on'

Israel on dangerous path: Obama

US President Barack Obama has warned Israel that its policy of ignoring US pleas and continuing to expand housing in sensitive areas of Jerusalem could end up being "very dangerous".

Yep.

01:58 ADL chief Foxman: Flawed U.S. policy is undermining Mideast peace (Haaretz)

Yeah it's all US fault... none of this has to do with Israeli policies. The ADL proves once again how they are a bunch of lying bastards. If they want to be taken seriously, they should fire the scum running the ADL and put real honest people there.

8:15pm Hizbullah Secretary-General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said that the Syrian leadership will open a new chapter in its relation with PSP leader MP Walid Jumblat.

Israel won't like that.

Merkel says Israel unlikely to wage war on Lebanon

03:19 Ambassador Oren: U.S.-Israel relations face worst crisis in 35 years (Haaretz)

I still say it's fake.

16:59 Saudi Arabia plans aid to Syria as ties improve (Reuters)

Another thing Israel won't like.

3,000 police officers around Temple Mount

Well it's not going well for Israel... maybe finally some backlash for their decades of atrocities? Thanks to the internet for exposing the crimes of their government. At this point the only ones who support Israel are the brainwashed cultists who think not supporting Israel is going against God... basically being as extremists as Al-CIAda.