Elite US troops ready to combat Pakistani nuclear hijacks

Yay great!

The bit I like is that all the numbers for the nukes have the magic '-' between 2 numbers... 60-80 for instance.

Now do the important people out side of Pakistan know exactly how many nukes there are supposed to be in the shelves? Because what if a couple of these things have already been misplaced - it's not like no one else has ever misplaced a nuke! Would the Pakistan PTB immediately ask for help?

Originally posted by Now_Then
Would the Pakistan PTB immediately ask for help?

I seriously doubt it.

Both the US and USSR/Russia have admitted to "Misplacing/Losing" some nukes. I honestly don't know what China's history is. [ They had been/Still are closed off ]. None so far have asked for help finding them.

What's sad is that knowadays, Newspapers don't actually break any stories anymore.. There "Leaked" to the paper or News for "political" reasons.. You will NEVER see a article released to any Large US based Newspaper/news program without a proper 'OK" from higher ups who run them.... The days of reporters who actually break a top story are over. Not that it happened much before hand.. Any Big story is cleared way before it ever reaches the New York Times.

The US Govt' has finally got it's complete control over every major news source. Newspaper..TV... radio.. internet. The best the public gets now is "Rumors"

I remember a guy placed a call to Art Bell's radio show years ago claiming he was making the call from inside Area 51. He started to make crazy claims when suddenly Art Bell's shows signal went OFF LINE from transmitting. Even though the caller was playing a prank the Government wasn't taking any chances and they pulled the plug. That's the POWER they have.

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Yhea either that or Art Bell has a clever and opportunistic producer

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suddenly Art Bell's shows signal went OFF LINE from transmitting

Or just a prank maybe?

This one really feels bad, way down deep in my gut. I'm sure they're getting set up to start a conflict involving Pakistan, India and China. What they have in mind is beyond any rational explanation I can find.
Still this is very worrysome, the Pakistanis have done a perfect job of protecting their nuclear assets. I can understand having contigency plans for this type of event but it still feels bad to me. I hope I'm very, very wrong about this.

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Newspapers don't actually break any stories anymore

Blogs and youtube are now the source for a lot of breaking news. Newspapers only have a few reporters that has a miniscule amount of resources in comparison to millions of bloggers and video camera owners.

Sometimes the only thing newspapers have are to use what the govt. agencies or their related contacts tells them because often that's all there is to go on.

[edit on 17-1-2010 by john124]

www.app.com.pk...

www.hindustantimes.com...

Pakistan on Sunday strongly rejected a report of Ms Christina Lamb in Sunday Times claiming that “Elite US troops ready to combat Pakistani nuclear hijacks” and termed it rubbish and figment of the imagination of the reporter.Talking to Aaj news Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit stated that the assertions and insinuations made in the story are baseless. Pakistani government also devised and continued to implement a foolproof safety and security regime for nuclear-related materials.Western media keep repeating such self serving baseless propaganda.

However Pakistan does not bother it as at official level no such assertions exist from west, he said while quoting a statement of US secretary of state Ms Hilary Clinton giving clean chit to Pakistan in respect of nuclear material’s safety.

Complaining discriminatory behaviour of western media, the foreign office spokesman said Pakistan never want to made South Asia an atomic region and never take part in armed race.

Pakistan only wants to fortify its defence, he said adding that Pakistan went nuclear in response to Indian threats.Pakistan cannot be blamed and any wrong use of nuclear arsenal is simply out of question.

Admitting Pak-America differences over drone attacks,he said Pakistan was in trying to convince the United States that persistent drone attacks could endanger consensus in Pakistan to fight terror war.

It is hoped that the policy of erstwhile Bush administration would be revisited as it is proving counter productive,he said.

Responding to a question, he said if Pakistani media is critical on the US it directly links American policies.In response to constructive criticism of Pakistani media the western media retorts with baseless propaganda against Pakistani nuclear-related material.

It is pertinent to mention here that Sunday Times in a report published on January 17, quoting a former CIA officer reported that the US army is training a crack unit to seal off and snatch back Pakistani nuclear weapons in the event that militants, possibly from inside the country’s security apparatus, get their hands on a nuclear device or materials that could make one...

Thread Update:

US prepares to stop Islamabad's nukes falling into wrong hands

THE US army is training a crack unit to seal off and neutralise Pakistan's nuclear weapons in the event that militants, possibly from inside Pakistan's national security apparatus, get their hands on a nuclear device or materials that could make one.

The move follows a series of attacks on sensitive military installations over the past two years, several of which housed nuclear facilities, and rising tension that has prompted a series of official complaints by US authorities to Islamabad in the past fortnight.

If ever there was a case for a pre-emptive nuclear strike then Pakistan has to be top of the list.


I have also always wondered why we don't threaten Islamic militants that if they dare to commit another terrorist attack then we'll nuke mecca and other religious sites - if they really are fighting a religious war then that should stop them.

Here are some articles from last year to jog some memories. The threat can come from anywhere really...

Qaeda vows to fire Pakistan nukes at US

Mon, Jun 06 2009
A top al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan says his men 'will' use Pakistan's nuclear weapons against the US, should they be able to get their hands on any.

"God willing, the nuclear weapons will not fall into the hands of the Americans and the Mujahideen would take them and use them against the Americans," Mustafa Abu al-Yazid said in an interview with al-Jazeera television.

Commentary: Pakistan nuke thefts foiled

Aug. 12 2009
(UPI) -- Is Pakistan's nuclear arsenal theft-proof? Former President Pervez Musharraf and his successor Asif Ali Zardari and their army and intelligence chiefs repeatedly have assured both the Bush and Obama administrations that their 80-odd nuclear weapons are as secure as the U.S. arsenal of some 7,000 city busters.

The Pakistanis have separated warheads from delivery systems and stored them in different secret locations throughout the second-largest Muslim country in the world after Indonesia. The United States has given Pakistan copies of its own blueprint to ensure full-proof, total safety. Yet Pakistan's secret nuclear storage sites are known to Islamist extremists and have been attacked at least three times over the last two years, according to two recent reputable reports.

American 'Jihad seekers' were planning to attack Pak nuke plant

Sunday, December 27, 2009
The five US origin terror suspects, who were arrested from Sargodha earlier this month, were planning to attack the Chasma Nuclear Power Plant and other strategic establishments in the country, a private television channel has reported.

The Daily Times reported Sargodha Cantonment Station House Officer, Amir Sherazi, as saying that the suspects had disclosed their nefarious plans during the interrogation.

Earlier, local Pakistani court extended the custody of the terror suspects for 10 more days till January 4.

All the five 'Jihad seekers' were produced before an anti-terrorism court in Sargodha on Friday, following which Judge Mohammad Aslam extended their custody on the plea of the police, which said that more time was needed to complete the investigations.

alright I gotta weigh in here too...

Like alot of other people have said, it's not the subject matter, it's the timing.

This does not give me warm fuzzies on any level. It's actually confirming some thoughts I already had brewing based on other things.

Watch this one people and if a bomb goes pop!! well don't believe the official story.

Also here's a random thought... They still haven't tied up the osama story line.... what if the big bad AQ get ahold of a nuke then the "elite team" goes in and BOOM!!!? well Osama was right there at where they brought the nuke along with the entire taliban leadership cadre... war over troops go home in 2011 yay ticker tape for everyone....

so totally fits ... and most people would believe a story line so constructed... the militants nuked themselves out of existence... cluck cluck ironic smile well guess the american way is best afterall.

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Those 3 sources show a build-up towards the necessity of an elite team to secure any loose nukes. The Times article is certainly plausible, and Pakistan's quick denial only gives it more credibility and possibly shows an urgency in the situation that could become critical at any time. The Pakistani military doesn't want to look weak, but this is a war that inevitably will lead to a spread of extremism into these nuke bases.

Soon be time to take the toys from the bad guys!

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Here we go again...

Worried about others having nukes.

No one else should have nukes because we want to rule the world.

Originally posted by die_another_day
Here we go again...

Worried about others having nukes.

No one else should have nukes because we want to rule the world.

Or what about if Al-Qaeda blew up a city in the west - would that not be reason for alarm. They said it's their aim to attain nukes and use them against us. These terrorists don't seem to mind dying for their cause either. It's not like the Russian's where MAD applies.

this is some call of duty sh^% right here.

Is there more information on pakistan's supposed nuke materials?

Originally posted by john124

Originally posted by die_another_day
Here we go again...

Worried about others having nukes.

No one else should have nukes because we want to rule the world.

Or what about if Al-Qaeda blew up a city in the west - would that not be reason for alarm. They said it's their aim to attain nukes and use them against us. These terrorists don't seem to mind dying for their cause either. It's not like the Russian's where MAD applies.

You should be more worried about our own government and the Chinese.

Originally posted by Max_TO
The U.S military have contingency plans for just about any thinkable scenario

the US military always gets caught out, think Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan. The US always thinks they have all eventualities covered, yet they never do.

You know, since it is on topic to this thread, I will go ahead and point out that various people have presented information in the past that indicated there was a high probability multiple Rogue Spears have happened before. And were neutralized. Like 11 or 12 I think, in the USA alone.

All of these were kept under wraps for obvious reasons. You want the people to live in fear, but you do not want them to panic in the streets like Orson Welle's War of the Worlds caused (October 30, 1938).

So yes I believe Rogue Spears have happened before and were stopped by our secret anti terrorist special forces. More than once.

These are truly our unsung heroes. And I have great respect for them.

Originally posted by la2

Originally posted by Max_TO
The U.S military have contingency plans for just about any thinkable scenario

the US military always gets caught out, think Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan. The US always thinks they have all eventualities covered, yet they never do.

No Rumsfeld clearly admits they do not have all eventualities covered.



So I guess even they are aware they do not know everything.