Mind Over Matter...Literally.

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Cannabis907

 

That's not at all what watcher73 is saying. Not even close. The video starts by spewing a bunch of nonsense framed as fact, then goes downhill after that.

Calling attention to that is not thinking "inside the box", it's rational behaviour.

My apologies then. I hope this video is aimed towards what I was talking about. I should take a break and watch them

Can anyone clarify that this is the same principle as the "law of attraction"?


edit: Just after the OP's description/opinion of the video I assume it is tied with the law of attraction, but I really hope to hear someones opinion on the video who has knowledge of the law of attraction?

[edit on 17-1-2010 by Cannabis907]

The video was intriguing and not really that surprised that David Lynch was in it at all..

Originally posted by jinx880101
Here is another cool bit of info - Ever notice how you can open an electric motorized gate from a much greater distance by pointing the remote at your head instead of the gate itself?

Here's what I'd like to see..

I would love to have a few ATS members rally together and attempt in documenting a series of small experiments which would go a long way in proving or disproving much of what is proposed in the video and by the member above.

As to what type of other experiments one could try.. I have no clue.. perhaps you folks could come up with something.. But it would have to be documented.. This means for example if one were to video the motorized gate or garage remote experiment, that two cameras would be needed.. Both set with the time date visible on both. One camera on the gate/garage, the other on the person with the remote. Both videos would then need to be sent to us in a unedited form so we can examine it for no alterations, editing or hoaxing. (There are other parameters needed for documentation that I can expand on if you so decide to try this..)

And whatever the results, I would report them on the ATSnews.. If you have an idea for an experiment, or wish to attempt such an experiment, please U2U me with the Subject header reading: "Mind over matter experiment"

Johnny

[edit on 1/17/2010 by JohnnyAnonymous]

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That's a cool idea. If anyone does end up trying this out and documenting it, try to record the results of people with both; Metal bolts/plates etc planted from surgery, and people who have no such thing.

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Some interesting reading on the matter here. It seems it might just be basic principles of RF behaviour. Which would make more sense

The Mozambique government has even tried this technique recently with a fair amount of success:

The Prevention Wing was established in Mozambique to prevent war by creating coherence in society. Its additional duty was to practice the Transcendental Meditation (TM) and/or TM-Sidhi programs twice per day. This simple, natural form of meditation originates in the Vedic tradition and was revived by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Many published, peer-reviewed studies* have presented evidence that the practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi program singly or in groups creates an upsurge of harmony and orderliness in society. When the group size is large enough, societal coherence envelops the area, creating what is known as "The Maharishi Effect."

Link

They had nothing to lose. After years of civil war that had devastated their country, perhaps a little meditation could do no harm:

After the General Peace Agreement was signed, Maharishi Vedic University presented the TM program to the Mozambique government as a scientifically validated means of creating order and quelling further conflict. In order to maintain its fragile peace, the Joint Chiefs of Staff of Mozambique implemented the TM program in different military units of Ground, Naval and Air Forces. Lieutenant General Tobias Dai was Commander of the Armed Forces at that time. "After having completed a thorough evaluation of the proposal, the Joint Chiefs of Staff decided to implement the...program...in the Armed Forces of Mozambique with the aim to create the Maharishi Effect in the country. It was a matter of decision. Either try it or to leave it aside. Our decision was to try," said Dai.

lol I like how they showed the matrix. I agree with what the video is saying. I remember my chemistry teacher telling the class that atoms and everything act the way they do because of they way people think of them and are raised and taught and that if we were raised differently or taught differently, that everything would behave differently

is we can use this Power to avert 2012 Doomsday event?

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Johnny Anonymous -- why not do an ATS news story on qigong masters?

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www.springforestqigong.com...

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Originally posted by pumpkingrapefruit
lol I like how they showed the matrix. I agree with what the video is saying. I remember my chemistry teacher telling the class that atoms and everything act the way they do because of they way people think of them and are raised and taught and that if we were raised differently or taught differently, that everything would behave differently

Your chemistry teacher needs to brush up on his physics then. There is no scientific evidence for the observer creating reality. The Von Neumann interpratation is only QM interretation that even suggests it and it's been largtely discredited.

I'm sorry but im not impressed by making your body into an antenna. Especially in relation to a generally misunderstood aspect of physics. Go to your car turn on a station that is kinda staticy grab your antenna. Oh my gosh now my antenna is more powerful. . . It must be my quantum mind enhancing the signal. . .

There is no science here and this entire thread should be in the metaphysics section. . . . Just some more bleepers

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I too am in constant wonder how these quantum conscious papers keep slipping into mainstream science:

adsabs.harvard.edu...

Dr. Stuart Hameroff's quantum consciousness at the 2006 Salk Institute conference:

www.quantumconsciousness.org...

[edit on 26-2-2010 by drew hempel]

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A new myth is burrowing its way into modern thinking. The notion is
spreading that the principles embodied in quantum mechanics imply a central rolefor the human mind in determining the very nature of the universe. Not surprisingly, this idea can be found in New Age periodicals and in many books on the metaphysical shelves of book stores.

Ironically, this seemingly profound association between quantum and mind is an artifact, the consequence of unfortunate language used by Bohr, Heisenberg and the others who originally formulated quantum mechanics.
In describing the necessary interaction between the observer and what is being observed, and how the state of a system is determined by the act of its measurement, they inadvertently left the impression that human consciousness enters the picture to cause that state come into being.

This led many who did not understand the physics, but liked the sound of the words used to describe it, to infer a fundamental human role in what was previously a universe that seemed to have need for neither gods nor humanity.

The overwhelming weight of evidence, from seven decades of
experimentation, shows not a hint of a violation of reductionist, local, discrete, nonsuperluminal, non-holistic relativity and quantum mechanics - with no fundamental involvement of human consciousness other than in our own subjective perception of whatever reality is out there. Of course our thinking processes have a strong influence on what we perceive. But to say that what we perceive therefore determines, or even controls, what is out there is without rational foundation.

The entire paper can be found here

www.colorado.edu...

According to the currently accepted theory, three of those four phenomena do not produce superluminal communication, even though they may give that appearance under some conditions. As for tachyons, their existence remains hypothetical; even if their existence were to be proven, attempts to quantize them appear to indicate that they may not be used for superluminal communication, because experiments to produce or absorb tachyons cannot be fully controlled

en.wikipedia.org...

On the other hand mainly due to the research in quantum cosmology[27, 28], physicists have come to realize that the measurement process does not need to be related to the observer (as the orthodox view requires), but must be taken as a self-acting process of the wave function.

philsci-archive.pitt.edu...

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"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibation and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together"

I think that is the most important point in the video. That matter is basically just energy held together by force and vibration. But what is this force? is it consciousness? what else could it be?

And for those of you who have not yet heard of the double-slit experiment watch this:


It's a science experiment that proves the act of observing something changes what happens. Makes you wonder if the rest of the world still exists when your not watching.