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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
After the first apparition of this phenomenon in Norway (12/2009), Creme announced that we would see other spiral apparitions in the future, which has already happened in China (12/2009) and now in Australia (06/2010).
Benjamin Creme and ShareInternational have announced that this new spiral phenomenon is heralding Maitreya's emergence. Creme has also announced that many more such spectacular celestial signs could be expected.
I am not saying that these signs are what we are told, but Creme has clearly connected these astral events to Maitreya's emergence. No matter what these phenomena are, don't trust Maitreya/Raj Patel, don't trust anything which is promoted by this society.
Keep your faith in God and take the Koran as your guide.
5 June 2010, Australia:
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Do not attend Raj Patel's speeches, this man has obviously a high occult power, as Satan, he's a great influence on human beings. Raj Patel uses the most known hypnosis techniques on the audience, his hands' gestures, his voice, his weird look, his voices, his intonations' changes, his stuttering are all made to put you in a state of trance which will lead you to say Amen to all what he says and what he is.
Originally posted by Rafe_
I dont keep faith in any god or use the koran as my guide but what i would like to know is did this creme guy predict the first spiral or is he just using the norwegian spiral in his "predictions".
Originally posted by queenannie38
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Do not attend Raj Patel's speeches, this man has obviously a high occult power, as Satan, he's a great influence on human beings. Raj Patel uses the most known hypnosis techniques on the audience, his hands' gestures, his voice, his weird look, his voices, his intonations' changes, his stuttering are all made to put you in a state of trance which will lead you to say Amen to all what he says and what he is.
not me.
i won't be watching or hearing him talk.
not even in this thread.
why are you posting videos of this man for us to watch if you say what you said, above, about his ability to put others in a trance-state?!?!??!
that doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Originally posted by Rafe_
I dont keep faith in any god or use the koran as my guide but what i would like to know is did this creme guy predict the first spiral or is he just using the norwegian spiral in his "predictions".
You're wrong but that's your problem.
Creme didn't predict the first spiral, he connected it to Maitreya just after it happened the first time and then he predicted that other spirals will be seen and other major celestial events. Creme is anyway a fraud but his scam is real.
Originally posted by Rafe_
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Originally posted by Rafe_
I dont keep faith in any god or use the koran as my guide but what i would like to know is did this creme guy predict the first spiral or is he just using the norwegian spiral in his "predictions".
You're wrong but that's your problem.
Creme didn't predict the first spiral, he connected it to Maitreya just after it happened the first time and then he predicted that other spirals will be seen and other major celestial events. Creme is anyway a fraud but his scam is real.
Ok consider me confused ! :*)
What am i wrong about ? I did not make one claim.
Ok so he claimed that the spiral was connected after it had occured so that does not seem to convincing but somehow it seemed you put importants to it.What i also dont get is you say creme is a fraud but his "scam" is real !?
I really dont get any of what you just said it all seems random and contradictionary.
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by Neo__
I quote you & Balavatsky:
"There is no Religion Higher than Truth"
I agree with this and I'd complete it and there is no Truth higher than God and the Koran.
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Benjamin Creme did not announce the norway spiral before it happened BUT he has predicted that other spirals will be seen over the world (which now has been fulfilled).
These events are important because they have a world scale, nobody is able to provide an undeniable explanation of these astral events. It may be a mere projection being part of the whole Maitreya scam, it may be a true natural event... no matter their true nature what matters is that they represent a huge sign, something will happen.
Creme is a fraud because all his doctrine is a lie, all his Maitreya plan is a lie, BUT his scam is real because Creme is truly connected to the most influential people in the world and Maitreya/Satan is the real head of this evil elite. So what Creme/Maitreya sells us is a scam, which makes him a fraud, but his influence/power is real.
Is it clear enough?
Originally posted by Neo__
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by Neo__
I quote you & Balavatsky:
"There is no Religion Higher than Truth"
I agree with this and I'd complete it and there is no Truth higher than God and the Koran.
The Qur'an, like the Bible, the Torah, and the Vedas, etc., are written by God inspired men and are therefore subject to interpretation by these men.
The quote could probably be more accurately written therefore as "There is no Interpretation of God Higher than Truth", including the Qur'an.
If you think this is blasphemous on my account, then so be it. This is free speech.
If you think that because of my thoughts I await some "Great Punishment", then so be it. That is free speech.
[edit on 18-6-2010 by Neo__]
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
The Koran is the exact words of God.
The process of revelation of the Koran through Muhammad is 100% safe and it's said several times in the Koran.
But I agree with you that the Koran is perfect, but the people may be wrong by interpreting it.
Anyway, we can only count on God's guidance to understand it as we are supposed to understand it.
Originally posted by Rafe_
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
The Koran is the exact words of God.
According to who and backed up by what proof?
The process of revelation of the Koran through Muhammad is 100% safe and it's said several times in the Koran.
So repeating claims make them true for you?
But I agree with you that the Koran is perfect, but the people may be wrong by interpreting it.
If it where so perfect it would leave no room for interpetation and doubt whatsoever.
Anyway, we can only count on God's guidance to understand it as we are supposed to understand it.
With all these mis-interpertations going on i would say he is not doing a very good job.
[edit on 20-6-2010 by Rafe_]
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
That's not with this kind of approach that you may reach the truth. I am not a VRP, I have nothing to sell to you, God has sent his holly book, the Koran, to ALL the humans and the Jinns, some of us have accepted it and many others have rejected it for various reasons.
We will all be accountable before God for our choices.
You can answer yourself to the questions you've asked to me by reading the Koran by yourself and by doing your own research, accept it or reject it, that's none of my business, my role is just to transmit, I am not responsible for the choices of the others.
[edit on 21-6-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]
Originally posted by Rafe_
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
That's not with this kind of approach that you may reach the truth. I am not a VRP, I have nothing to sell to you, God has sent his holly book, the Koran, to ALL the humans and the Jinns, some of us have accepted it and many others have rejected it for various reasons.
We will all be accountable before God for our choices.
You can answer yourself to the questions you've asked to me by reading the Koran by yourself and by doing your own research, accept it or reject it, that's none of my business, my role is just to transmit, I am not responsible for the choices of the others.
[edit on 21-6-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod]
Thats a very neutral response to mine i must say.You did not try to force me to agree with your believe or like you said, sell it to me and kept it completely open towards me instead of feeling personaly attacked and offended.
I like you
Originally posted by Blender
www.share-international.org...
Benjamin Creme & Share-International are now saying that "Maitreya" has now given his first TV interview, calling for peace/sharing etc, viewed by millions. Wonder who hes talking about?
Originally posted by cosmicpixie
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod
try reading Share international's online mag...over and over Creme has stated Patel is NOT Maitreya for god's sake. Now I know full well SI/CREME has an evil purpose behind it's benign facade and poor Creme is just a clueless patsy but whatever is directing his mind/channeling info to him has clearly stated someone ELSE is Maitreya and this guy is not it. Maitreya does not reveal his REAL face until the day of declaration and Patel's DOB does not match the one Creme has for years associated with Maitreya. You really need to do more research as although there are similarities this guy is NOT the one SI is awaiting anymore than Maitreya is Obama, which is the other popular notion.
People are prone to ask the question as to why the Christ does not come - in the pomp and ceremony which the churches ascribe to the event - and, by His coming, demonstrate His divine power, prove convincingly the authority and the potency of God, and thus end the cycle of agony and distress.
The answers to this are many. It must be remembered that the main objective of the Christ will not be to demonstrate power but to make public the already existent Kingdom of God.
When He came before He was unrecognized, and is there any guarantee that this time it would be different? You may ask why would He not be recognized? Because men's eyes are blinded with the tears of self-pity and not of contrition; because the hearts of men are still corroded with a selfishness which the agony of war has not cured; because the standards of value are the same as in the corrupt Roman Empire which saw His first appearance, only then these standards were localized and not universal as they are today; because those who could recognize Him and who hope and long for His coming are not willing to make the needed sacrifices, and thus ensure the success of His advent.
When true freedom covers the earth, we shall see the end of tyranny - politically, religiously and economically. I am not here referring to modern democracy as a condition which meets the need, for democracy is at present a philosophy of wishful thinking and an unachieved ideal. I refer to that period which will surely come in which an enlightened people will rule; these people will not tolerate authoritarianism in any church or totalitarianism in any political system; they will not accept or permit the rule of any body of men who undertake to tell them what they must believe in order to be saved or what government they must accept.
When the people are told the truth and when they can freely judge and decide for themselves, we shall then see a much better world.