Images from GAZA - WARNING!!! GRAPHIC

Nothing pains me more than to see children suffer. In my mind, there is NEVER justification for it. I don't care what religion, race, or nationality they are.

There is NO EXCUSE.

Horrible images and quite frankly this is what people need to see.

Although some of them are very graphic...thank you for posting them. I hope everyone sees what results from these wars.

Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by Sean48
reply to post by lilwolf

 

So you purposely shot on women, children, civilians?

How do you look your kids, grand kids in the eye?

What a gutless post.

You are the one who should be ashamed. Attacking people who volunteer to serve in the military is beyond reprehensible. Are you so simple minded and brainwashed as to believe that the men and women who serve in the military purposely murder civilians?

Actually that would be the Islamic Extremists. They intentionally bomb civilians because they are scum. Hamas purposely uses the Palestinians as human shields.

Pretty tough sitting behind that computer eh?

I think it is very naive to think that some american troops dont do these things. There are thousands of cases that prove otherwise.

Also, while I dont necessarily blme the troops(i blame the men giving the orders), there is nothing wrong with wondering why someone is working to spread tyranny.

reply to post by Night Watchman


Actually they do just straight up kill civilians, sometimes.

It's called being merc'd.

Ever heard of that? Oh yeah you haven't.

I know soldiers who admitted to me straight up, they merc'd people just because.

So who do I believe? Actual US military men who gave me their personal accounts? Or some guy on the internet I never met that could just be making crap up?

Hmmm tough call....

reply to post by lilwolf


You are correct, the use of white phosphorous is not illegal, however, the use of white phosphorous on densely populated civilian neighborhoods is illegal.

"White phosphorus use in densely populated neighborhoods, including downtown Gaza City, violated international humanitarian law (the laws of war), which requires taking all feasible precautions to avoid civilian harm and prohibits indiscriminate attacks."

"International humanitarian law-the laws of war-does not ban white phosphorus munitions either as an "obscurant" to hide military operations or as an incendiary weapon. Its use nonetheless remains regulated by laws-of-war rules on the conduct of hostilities, restrictions that limit the use of all weapons in order to minimize harm to civilians and civilian property. Moreover, particular aspects of white phosphorus munitions-its incendiary effect that causes horrific burns and its wide dispersal when air-burst-raises additional international law concerns."

"Human Rights Watch's investigation of Israel's use of white phosphorus munitions during the recent Gaza hostilities determined that, in violation of the laws of war, the IDF generally failed to take all feasible precautions to minimize civilian harm when using white phosphorus, and that, in specific cases, the IDF used white phosphorus in an indiscriminate manner causing civilian death and injury. Individuals who plan, order or conduct indiscriminate attacks willfully-that is, deliberately or recklessly-are responsible for war crimes. The widespread and repeated use of white phosphorus in an unlawful manner-air-burst over densely populated areas when the alternative of non-lethal smoke was available-is indicative of criminal intent. "

Source: www.hrw.org...

reply to post by lilwolf


dude white phosphorus is a chemical weapon you daft noob.

your a fool if you think its ok to use

Originally posted by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
reply to post by 12m8keall2c

 

Great point, and normally I would completely agree.... But it seems that we have dug ourselves too deep of a hole... These people need to be held accountable for their actions and feel what they have done to others...

Who, Exactly, are "we", "ourselves" and "these people"?

Sure this may perpetuate SOME violence... But with harsher penalties and people being held accountable, perhaps this wouldn't happen...

... on Which "side"?

at the very least these guys need to be locked up for the rest of their days to rot in god forbidden jail cell in gitmo... haha

Again ... Which "side"?


The issues and/or arguments on Both sides have and do show mOar a cultural/societal/acceptance divide than anything even near or resembling mere political opposition ... age-old, if you will.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
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I think hes got huge nuts.

Wouldn't kissing their rears the way you are doing, be the gutless way ? I mean its pretty cowardly to just bow down and all.

But standing up to the psychos with guns? Major Guts.

Yeah you two heroes are standing up to the military by typing on a computer. Congrats Rambo.

I'm glad you admire his nuts though.

It explains a lot.

Originally posted by xX aFTeRm4Th Xx
reply to post by trueperspective

 

Open your eyes.... we have been over there killing and waging war for decades.... We create excuses to go over there and invade their homeland, in consequence killing their families, children, mothers, brothers, sisters and friends....

All because of reasons that the average person cannot comprehend. Wake up a little bit, do some research. Of course they are going to hate us and retaliate with violence. LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DONE!

And of course Israel supports us... we are their largest ally... We give them billions of dollars and help fund their military killing machine... And support their political beliefs...

If by "look what we have done" you mean bringing these desert drifters into the modern age and made them multi-trillionaries over night...then I don't know what you are speaking of. The fact is that if we had left them alone they would be living in manure huts and still hunting food with bow and arrow. I have ZERO sympathy for a people that got FILTHY rich off of US and then have the NERVE TO ATTACK our way of life and cheer over our dead chared bodies. You sir are the one that needs to educate yourself and WAKE UP!

reply to post by trueperspective


how do you think israel became a rich country? FROM US! US TAX PAYER DOLLARS!

i swear i have had it up to here with people.

LEARN HISTORY! DENY IGNORANCE!

you are obviously a racist

[edit on 14-1-2010 by lozenge]

[edit on 14-1-2010 by lozenge]

Originally posted by trueperspective


If by "look what we have done" you mean bringing these desert drifters into the modern age and made them multi-trillionaries over night...then I don't know what you are speaking of. The fact is that if we had left them alone they would be living in manure huts and still hunting food with bow and arrow. I have ZERO sympathy for a people that got FILTHY rich off of US and then have the NERVE TO ATTACK our way of life and cheer over our dead chared bodies. You sir are the one that needs to educate yourself and WAKE UP!

I'm trying to type while I'm laughing so hard

Read a book

Originally posted by Night Watchman


Yeah you two heroes are standing up to the military by typing on a computer. Congrats Rambo.

I'm glad you admire his nuts though.

It explains a lot.

Way to admit you lost the argument hands down.

By attempting deflection and ridicule.

At least your honest about having no real point for debate.

Originally posted by lozenge
reply to post by trueperspective

 

how do you think israel became a rich country? FROM US! US TAX PAYER DOLLARS!

i swear i have had it up to here with people.

LEARN HISTORY! DENY IGNORANCE!

[edit on 14-1-2010 by lozenge]

What does that have to do with Muslims getting rich off of oil that WE buy?? I don't really care how Israel got rich because they are our ally. the Muslims BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM...no sympathy from me

reply to post by trueperspective


No what I am pointing at is... and this is just but one example... we have killed over 100,000 Iraqi CIVILIANS!!! in the same manner as these pictures... But nobody knows that, unless of course you do your own research. Why would good old faithful MSM tell us that? They wouldn't... because people would be against the war. And guess what, war is profitable... so they wouldn't want to do that now would they???

And we definitely didn't bring them out of the stone age. If you think they were in the stone age before we invaded Iraq and went over to the middle east you are very misinformed... Yet again, another person blinded by MSM and unable to see the world as it really is.

We are there for oil, thats the true reality... and I'm sure for other political and monetary reasons. I don't deny the fact that we should be over there helping... But we are going about it in all the wrong ways... Killing and violence of innocent civilians?



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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

I think it is very naive to think that some american troops dont do these things. There are thousands of cases that prove otherwise.

Thousands eh? Care to provide some of these cases to which you refer?

Click here for more information.

Originally posted by lozenge
reply to post by trueperspective

 

how do you think israel became a rich country? FROM US! US TAX PAYER DOLLARS!

i swear i have had it up to here with people.

LEARN HISTORY! DENY IGNORANCE!

you are obviously a racist

[edit on 14-1-2010 by lozenge]

[edit on 14-1-2010 by lozenge]

It is truly amazing to me that people will defend Israel without having the slightest clue how they came into existance, why, and and who financed them.

Sad, really.

reply to post by trueperspective


"The Muslims"

wow you are a racist. That's like saying "The Christians" got rich off us.
HOW MANY F***ING CHRISTIANS ARE THERE IN THE WORLD IN DIFFERENT PLACES WITH DIFFERENT CULTURE?!?!?!

Dude, look over there, those people are poor as hell and we are exterminating them. The only people who got rich off oil are the Saudi's and they are our allies (even though the 9/11 highjackers were Saudi's)

You need to learn history, geography, and how to not be an ignorant racist.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by Night Watchman


Wow does everybody on these forums have to be spoon fed? Take responsibility people, DENY IGNORANCE

articles.latimes.com...
www.liveleak.com...
www.informationclearinghouse.info...
www.foxnews.com...

That should be enough to get your started!