NASA photographs "Trees" on Mars

reply to post by Snarf


I agree with you .. to bad that the mars rovers spirit and opertunity arent in the neighbourhood where such things can be seen..
and further more one is stuck
so all hope is now on the nuclear powered Mars Science Laboratoria .. or some other probe.

Optical illusion my butt. Just another coverup that's all.

reply to post by DaMod


The High Resolution images does lend more credence to it being trails left by melting sediments.

However the trail doesn't seem to follow the contour of the landscape on MOST of the "artifacts".

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing ... just making an observation.

Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
reply to post by Snarf

 

I agree with you .. to bad that the mars rovers spirit and opertunity arent in the neighbourhood where such things can be seen..
and further more one is stuck

so all hope is now on the nuclear powered Mars Science Laboratoria .. or some other probe.

"the nuclear powered Mars Science Laboratoria"

When do they plan to send this?

reply to post by DaMod


I agree, it appears to be vegetation sticking up from the ground as the picture gives the impression it is taken from an elevated angle, say 45 degrees but i think this is an illusion caused by the 'trees'.

I think the picture is taken from directly above. When you zoom in and loose the angle illusion it looks more like a flat natural formation photographed from above.

Good pictures though

There are another set of images from Mars that cannot be simply dismissed as some else but tree. I'll locate the pictures later

Remember though, NASA has been wrong numerous times and could correct itself at a later date.

Defo not trees - some go one way some the other if you look close.

I'll buy the NASA explanation - "Runs off's" -
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of OIL !

I am a Graphic Designer and after reviewing the image here are my thoughts... Tree's and or plants usually grow towards the sun, but these illusions are sporadic. There are also formations that seem to be growing from the top of the image down, while others seem upright. If you look closely, all of these dark spots are actually flat rather than protruding from the ground, much like the surface of a canvas the colors at points blend into the surrounding area. Check out "3D Street Art" in a image search engine, you will see how art and colors can create clever illusions.

I think NASA should have more respect......I mean taking close up pictures of some Poor Martians Garden, then plastering them all over the internet is just not on!!

Only kidding. With the surface conditions on Mars, I really doubt they are trees. Can't be.

Originally posted by DaMod
Unfortunately if you look at the big image,



you will see that sadly they are not trees. Just look close, you can tell.

Indeed, I saw these pics the other day and at first I thought the dark "things" were spines, almost like structures you see in a cave...




But when you look closer you realize its an optical illusion.

Guys believe me if it was trees, NASA would be the first to scream trees and have it plastered all over the news..Why?..because this would increase their funding, and draw more intrest to the space program. They have nothing to hide over things there, why would they care if people knew they was trees on Mars?..Like I said they need a discovery like that, they need trees, faces, glass tunnels, it would help them more on funding to get there and check things out.

But when you look closer you realize its an optical illusion.

Yes people trust their eyes way to much, eyewitness accounts even for real events pose a real problem for the legal system in general so its even more questionable when you introduce phenomena that the user is unfamiliar with.

Don't always believe what you "think" you see, any number of these will show you why www.michaelbach.de...

Originally posted by Mr_skepticc
Guys believe me if it was trees, NASA would be the first to scream trees and have it plastered all over the news..

Except NASA wouldn't know one way or the other. Not until a manned mission goes there to check it out. It would be shortsighted of NASA to proclaim that these ARE or ARE NOT trees. Bottom line is that whatever these things are, they are not based upon Earthly biology (assuming they are biological in nature), thus impossible to identify via imaging.

Those don't look like trees, I don't know what they are, but they don't look like any tree I have seen, they aren't growing right, whatever it is, seems to be flat against the ground.

Personally I don't really buy the idea of it being debris. I can buy that it is frozen strutures similar to that which forms on some ice cubes. It would explain the uniformity a bit. I'm just having a hard time getting an angle for the pic. Is it from straight up or from a horizon shot? If it is straight up then it's most likely what they say it is. However, the structures I have seen before that appear to give off shadows (which look like large maples) seem to be some form of plant life to me.

Here is a link to the phenomenom I'm talking about with ice cubes. Spikes in Ice Cubes

Originally posted by Mr_skepticc
Guys believe me if it was trees, NASA would be the first to scream trees and have it plastered all over the news..Why?..because this would increase their funding, and draw more intrest to the space program. They have nothing to hide over things there, why would they care if people knew they was trees on Mars?..Like I said they need a discovery like that, they need trees, faces, glass tunnels, it would help them more on funding to get there and check things out.

Thank you for stating the obvious! Sadly it's needed more than often. Sometimes when I read peoples "theories", or "scientific" conclusions, I get really tired. Mostly I think forget it, I'm not even going to try make sense to these people. It feels like an uphill battle lately.

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I think I'll repeat what I said in the other (later) thread:

holy [snip] [snip] [snip] that's [snip] [snip] amazing. [snip] [snip] [snip] [snip] is about all i can say on the matter!

But seriously if the photo turns out to be 100% genuine then [snip] [snip] [snip] [snip].

The Telegraph is a respected paper so otherwise they've been [snip] [snip] or this is real. In which case it's [snip] huuuuuuaaaaaage! OMFG [snip] [snip] [snip]!

S&F

EDIT: Well that was fun while it lasted, mineral deposits CO2 and debris hmmm [snip] [snip] [snip] arse!

As with anything extraterrestial... things do not always look as they seem and things which happen on earth don't happen the same way other places.

This is an excellent example. Obviously not "trees".

Title of thread is a bit misleading yah?

The "trees" are really trails of debris caused by landslides as ice melts in Mars's spring. You can even see a cloud of dust, just to the left of centre of the picture, where an avalanche is caught happening

Also, if there was a cover up and these are actually "trees" then why even let the media report it.

I'm not denying life on Mars, of course there is life there. But the article clearly states this is an optical illusion. If it was not, I assure you it'd be getting much more attention.

Might not be trees but they look like vegitation. remember this is another planet. plantlife will grow differently.


Personally I think it looks like seaweed. have you seen a sandy beach when the tide goes out?

Someone has altered the image at the bottom left hand corner. You see a thumbprint size gap in the seaweed. which does not look real. it looks like they used the clone tool. then been told to leave it unaltered.


take a look:
hirise.lpl.arizona.edu...



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