Norway Time Hole "Leak" Plunges Northern Hemisphere Into Chaos

Originally posted by TrappedSoul

Was it really "over" Norway? It was probably over the sea but since it's far up in the sky it may look like it was over the land. Some may even think the sun is over the land, but the sun is far out in space.

We did the math dude. And debated it for a bit.

But since the spiral thing has turned into endless debate on tons of websites, I don't expect you to know that already.

Essentially based on the angles and diameter of the spiral, it could not have been more than 20-25 km high. Low ball estimates were about 15km.

There is some really in depth analysis of the details in a few of the threads around here.

I am just seeking the truth man.

Condemn me all you want but the fact is you haven't sought anything. Just got spoon fed your ideas by the government and their medias.

Originally posted by TrappedSoul

I know what a rocket test looks like, and this did look like a rocket test.

Nothing like I've ever seen.

Got any photos or links to photos?

thanks


[edit on 12-1-2010 by ATS23]

[edit on 12-1-2010 by ATS23]

Best work around in terms of math is this by Tony Spell

Spiral Work

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by TrappedSoul

Was it really "over" Norway? It was probably over the sea but since it's far up in the sky it may look like it was over the land. Some may even think the sun is over the land, but the sun is far out in space.

We did the math dude. And debated it for a bit.

But since the spiral thing has turned into endless debate on tons of websites, I don't expect you to know that already.

Originally posted by shakespear1
Best work around in terms of math is this by Tony Spell

Spiral Work

In that link they calculate it to be above Russia:

reply to post by RcknShdw


“catastrophic puncturing” of our Plant’s thermosphere thus allowing into the troposphere an “unimpeded thermal inversion” of the exosphere, which is the outermost layer of Earth’s atmosphere.

WTF does all this science crap mean?

Originally posted by ATS23

Originally posted by TrappedSoul

I know what a rocket test looks like, and this did look like a rocket test.

Nothing like I've ever seen.

Got any photos or links to photos?

thanks

Norway spiral with rocket trail marked:


Similar rocket trail:


Also a weird rocket launch:


More rocket fumes:



Good video about it:


But nothing will ever convince you guys anyway.

Originally posted by muzzleflashCondemn me all you want but the fact is you haven't sought anything. Just got spoon fed your ideas by the government and their medias.

Thinking that anyone who disagree with you have their ideas spoon fed by the government is a nice way to show ignorance.

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[edit on 2010/1/12 by TrappedSoul]

Originally posted by m3lh4d0
just a thought and asking someone: is it possible that "that thing" what ever was created, black whole, worm whole, atmosphere whole, what ever you want to call it could have puncture something in our planet, letting in or affecting in someway the temperature.

ever since that thing came up, temperatures dropped down

It punctured the very fabric of time and space! Thats why things have been all messed up around here lately. I mean didn't we already KNOW Mark McGuire was on steroids ALREADY?

Sorry but that guy's voice was just wayyy too annoying to listen to.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by AlphaPrime]

Although i like to read Soorcha Site from time to time, its just for shake my thoughts a little because it is a well know site of disinformation. Just take a look at the other articles, everyone of them can trigger a new thread here on ATS. I appreciate the imagination that site use to relate the information... but definitely their conclusions are always alarmist and biased...

Why in particular the Norway Spiral article do in fact made it to a thread is quite a surprise for me. Lets see how much time for some of the other articles to trigger a new ATS thread.

Peace

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danm are you guys feeling manic? I feel prett crazy right now, possibly the singularity?

“catastrophic puncturing” of our Plant’s thermosphere thus allowing into the troposphere an “unimpeded thermal inversion” of the exosphere, which is the outermost layer of Earth’s atmosphere. WTF does all this science crap mean?

That's not science its pseudoscience, in other words utter and complete bull#.

There is so much wrong with that statement and this thread that in all honesty its not even worth debunking.

I was just watching the Jesse Ventura show on HAARP, and it mentioned in passing that many other countries are doing similar experiments/weaponization such as HAARP. So how does anyone conclude that the suspicious weather is America? Because we are best known to be doing it? I want to see a listing of all known countries with such weather control stations as HAARP.

Originally posted by Itop1
Some of you people are so blind, you will believe ANYTHING you are told by the media, at first everyone was like "wow what is that, never seen anything like that" then sudenly as soon as the media says its a failed rocket, everyone is like "oh its a rocket, happened hundreds of times before" even though they cannot prove one bit of evidence except a thread from the CNN website or other.

instead of having an open mind you would rather believe whatever the media says, which is controlled by the governments.

Its acctually very frustrating that people will believe anything they are told and are not willing to do any research of there own, just like the "Global warming" fiasco!

How about you prove us your theory?? Prove us that HAARP/EISCAT are capable of what we saw!
PROVE IT!

None of the supporters of EISCAT/HAARP theory have been able to give plausible explanations to their theories let alone prove anything.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Essentially based on the angles and diameter of the spiral, it could not have been more than 20-25 km high. Low ball estimates were about 15km.

Give us a link to that math that proves this.

[edit on 12/1/2010 by DGFenrir]

Originally posted by shakespear1
Best work around in terms of math is this by Tony Spell

Spiral Work

This information makes no sense.

What ICBM can make a 150 mile wide spiral? Are you guys actually trying to tell me that spiral was 150miles WIDE?????!!!!!

Guys! Think about this for a minute!

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How would that be a problem in thermosphere, above the Karman line?

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I must admit the launch portion looks very similar

Now what about the blue trail and spiral...any photo's?

Just inquiring, not making a snide remark

Originally posted by DGFenrir

Give us a link to that math that proves this.

Anyways, you don't need that if you understand basic trig.

Here is your linky.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Go to about page 12, and read about 5-6 pages.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by muzzleflash]

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by DGFenrir

Give us a link to that math that proves this.

Anyways, you don't need that if you understand basic trig.

Here is your linky.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Go to about page 12, and read about 5-6 pages.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by muzzleflash]

I was on that thread for some time. tauristercus' math was proven wrong several times.
Why can't you simply give us a link to that post which proves that it could not have been more than 20-25 km high?

Originally posted by DGFenrir
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

How would that be a problem in thermosphere, above the Karman line?

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You are outta your mind man.

We are talking the distance from Mobile Alabama, ALL THE WAY through Mississippi, and then to Baton Rouge LA.

This is roughly 155-160 miles distance!

And your claiming that some ICBM sprayed that massive amount over this vast an area?

We are talking roughly 500 square miles of material in the sky.

There is not enough room in a rocket for this much material, and you know it.

In case you do not know imperial units, I will convert for you.

155miles = 250 km
500 square miles = 805 km ^2

This is too big.

The spiral has to be way lower guys. This much is obvious.

Plug in 15km to 25km altitude for the spiral and you will get numbers that match realistic rocket exhaust figures.


Wait a minute? You guys just derailed me from the main topic of this thread BIG TIME. GJ !

Originally posted by DGFenrir

I was on that thread for some time. tauristercus' math was proven wrong several times.
Why can't you simply give us a link to that post which proves that it could not have been more than 20-25 km high?

No check Phage and I's math around page 12. Taurist updates his math around page 14 or 15, to the correct numbers after corrections were taken into account.

I gave you a link to the thread, YOU can go to page 12 yourself!

You are making me treat you like a child seriously. Do you not know how to research anything yourself??

And you do not need proof to know that a 500 square mile circle in the sky is not possible from 1 single ICBM. You only need common sense.

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Since your demanding proof from everyone.

Why don't you PROVE to me that a 500 square mile spiral is possible from 1 ICBM??

PROVE IT!

Don't like a taste of your own medicine?

Now the burden is on you as I have presented my case adequately.