Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues

What it sounds like is many of those people who saw the movie cannot distinguish reality from fiction and therefore need to be directed to their local Hospitals or Doctor.

Otherwise it was a good movie.

reply to post by concernedcitizan
You might be on to something here. I have not seen Avatar myself.
I don't know if you have ever heard of The Wingmakers. I will not go into the complete story, you guys will have to research it for yourself.

Wingmakers

But there has been some suspicion that it is an experiment in subliminal messaging through mythology, music, art, and philosophy.

I have read much of it and it was a pretty profound thing. In a good way for me. Not so much for others. I have heard that some got very depressed and suicidal after exposure.

Here is a snip from the CAUS (Citizens Against UFO Secrecy) website.

CAUS has received information that the WingMakers website might be some type of experiment in subliminal or similar programming.

CAUS is interested in hearing from anyone who has experienced any unusual occurrences, whether OBEs, paranormal, dreams, visions or altered states of any kind after viewing and/or listening to either all or a portion of the website.

CAUS believes that the homepage of 'WingMakers' should contain a warning...'Enter At Your Own Risk.'

CAUS

Oddly enough Kerry of Project Camelot became very interested in the Wingmakers early before PC was formed and retained the sole rights to make a movie about it.

Who was one person that the plot was presented to? No other than James Cameron.<

After months of talking to agents at agencies such as William Morris, CAA and Endeavor, I managed to place this project in front of Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, and Alejandro González Iñárritu by way of their agents and development executives: in the case of Spielberg, specifically Kathleen Kennedy.

Project Camelot

Not the same story obviously, but maybe the idea got through.

I have respect for PC and think the Wingmakers philosophy is not a bad thing even if it's not the real deal. Maybe the same with Avatar?

Perhaps the experiment has come to fruition?

Edit to add: The first night after reading the Ancient Arrow book, I did wake from a deep sleep very abruptly after making a realization in a dream about part of the book. 10cm







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I suggested on a previous thread that there was some form of subliminal content in Avatar...
...I thought someone would have worked out what it is by now.

Avatar - Israel Defiled?
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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WOW!!

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If thats the case one can only applaud James Cameron on a job well done.
Truely and awesome film.

As for the people having anxiety and depression.. umm, i hate to be mean but.

Its a movie. You knew that then, and you still know that now. Get with reality!

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Human life has always been a blend of fiction and reality, a blend of illusion and nature.

Look at myths, legends, religions, what are those other than fictional stories than become part of people's reality.

And what about things we make up for the function of society, like money. Money is entirely made up, its fictional, an illusion, and yet it is more powerful over our lives than whether or not its going to rain tomorrow. Authority is another illusion.

The line is intentionally blurred between fantasy and reality. Look at the farce that TV news has become, how much of that is reality and how much is fiction. We've been sold many of these illusions since birth and so we don't question them...

Entertainment has gotten better and better over the years at blurring the line and with movies like Avatar the line is only getting fuzzier.

The malaise that the viewers are feeling after the film is proberly as a consequence of the general state of doom and gloom surrounding most the nations of the world in light of the economic crash and has nothing to do with the film. Jaws made people scared of the sea, The Exorcist made people scared of people whos head spun around but I dont think that Avatar made people afraid to live.

This is, dare I say it...depressing. And I mean that literally. I can't imagine what type of life that (most) of these people have that they become suicidal at the thought of not being able to go to Pandora. I guess if some of them were determined enough about it, they could try and join/help in the look for other planets. Who knows, they might even find a "Pandora." Personally, I think there is a Pandora out there somewhere, but I really am quite happy with Earth.

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No, you definitely need to see it on the big screen.

(And this is coming from a person that wasn't that "impressed" with it. Visually, it was stunning beyond words, but I guess I was expecting something different/more than what was in the film. Although, as much as I despised his character, Col. Quaritch made the movie for me.)

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Exactly I've seen things on this Earth that NO MOVIE could ever dream of aspiring to. Our planet is one of the most amazing beautiful things I could ever imagine..........I think people just don't get out in nature enough and simply live in a bubble of artificial emptiness. Look at all the adults in US society that are addicted to video games let alone other things like technology, porn, sex, drugs etc. People nowadays are just lazy and stupid for the most part.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
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I would star you ten times if I could. That is what I took from it as well. Being Native American, I felt a great connection to this movie and how my ancestors once lived---In total harmony and equilibrium with their ecosystem and all of life. And completely FREE, not a bunch of debt slaves. What was once done can be done again IMHO. We have been led to believe that this planet is one of scarcity, and that we need to depend on technology and this modernized society in order to survive, but this is complete BS imho. This world is one of natural abundance, all that needs to be done is to RE-LEARN how to live off of it, the way our ancestors did. Not by being dependent on this current slave system. I think we may SEE many returning back to the ways of old and relearning to live off the land and in nature. If by nothing else other than necessity.

Great post, I think the reason Avatar resonates with so many people is that most people watching the movie inherently "get" that we as the human species could be a thousand times better at treating this planet we live on (and each other) with a lot more respect.

Besides, it's hard to resist a visually appealing movie with a positive message.

i haven't seen the movie but it's not hard to imagine how depressing it could be to come down to earth after emerging yourself in a utopic fantasy.

reality for most is not all it's cranked up to be and just because a lot of people are ok with it ... doesn't mean everyone should be. for a lot of us it's just a droll existence of struggle and the only upside is we're all going to end up in the same place anyway. dead. lol.

Great post DD. S&F.

I totally agree with Monts and yourself on Page 1.

I went to see Avatar last week and thought it was a fantastic experience, amazing film and I would advise everyone to go and see it in 3D!

The movie for me did make me feel a little sad during the film, as so much of the destruction and greed resonated with what our own governments are doing right now all around us.

But the movie also gave me some hope also that we can get better as a race, and it made me feel proud of who I am too.

I think the movie had some fantastic messages embedded within it. For example there was great reference to collective consciousness and the power it has when we see the Navi all holding hands and praying together.

The bonds between the navi and the animals also was great.

as for people feeling depressed and suicidal, it does'nt surprise me. The movie was such a realistic experience of being somewhere else.

As these 3D movies become more popular in the future, i think we will see much more feeling like this.

Many people are crying out for an escape, and for over 3 hours, Avatar was that escape for many.

g.

All I would need to do to get over 'avatar depression' would be to remind myself just how much money Mr Cameron will make off this 'epic' movie, then reality would set in, it is a movie, made to make money, millions of dollars, not made to enlighten me, change my life, or God forbid, take my life.

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I did have heartache for sometime after watching the movie, it is true but no suicidal thoughts lol. I couldn't stop thinking of the beauty of the world shown in the movie for days on end but the ugly reality of this world finally overcame it. Now also while writing this the thoughts of Pandora come flushing back to mind and the utter longing for that world is felt deep inside with an ache knowing it is not possible.

Now also while writing this the thoughts of Pandora come flushing back to mind and the utter longing for that world is felt deep inside with an ache knowing it is not possible.

I think this is probably what people feel, not really "depression", but this hard to describe longing for things beyond this world.

I haven't seen the movie, but I've felt that way about certain paintings like this


I have longings and aches for things far beyond the "reality" of this world, and hope that i'll get to experience it in the afterlife. I can understand the temptation of suicide to experience those things that you desire so badly, but the truth is no one knows what's after death. Here and now is where we are, and like some of the other posters have said, it's important to try and find the beauty of THIS world.

It's hard to understand if you've never felt the heartache before, but it's not a mind thing, it's deeper than that. A desire to be free from the miseries and negative parts of being incarnated on earth.

Maybe it does comment on the lives those people have, they have all of these desires for fantasy things, but they aren't looking for cool, weird, inspiring things here to balance those desires and end up contemplating suicide because their lives are empty.

I was on that path for a while, I could only see the negative things about life here on earth. But I've started learning to appreciate the beauty here, and if you look for it, there's alot - enough to balance the murder and cruelty in the world.





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I doubt it has any more significance than old fashioned marketing.

Emotive headlines draw attention, and increased attention equals increased box office takings.

I am pretty sure it is safe to assume that those facing these issues after seeing Avatar were already experiencing depression and mental issues. Balanced happy people would not have these issues. I think this is more of a symptom of their overall mental state, and not the root of their depression.

Originally posted by grey580
Unfortunately these people need professional help.
happines comes from within. and no one can give it to you.

I think before long we will all need "professional help" and there won't be enough therapists to go around. While I agree that happiness comes from within I think it is becoming increasing difficult to ignore the world around us and continue to smile and be happy.

There are facts in life which seem to hit a certain nerve in our inner self. There is a reason for that, we are revealing a hidden truth. As a big fan of our origins as interuniversal beings who have reincarnated under this veil which we can our current life some information that we come across seem more real than others.

case in point, avatar, Star Wars, Matrix,...

According to Alex Collier there was a 6,000 year war between humanoids and reptilian/Dracos, maybe seeing it on a screen hits the right cord.

Matrix and Avatar - we feel there is more than this world, at night we wake up in a 4th dimension Lower and higher Astral world, we forget about it as soon as we wake up but we know that it truly exists - that is not necessarily the full world that we live in.

You have a problem if you want to go to a moon with unbreathable air, bioluminescent flora, giant smurf indians and dinosaurs with six legs and four eyes who breathe through their necks. Wouldn't a trip to the beach be a lot more fun?