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Originally posted by drew hempel
You ask what "triggers" these images -- the answer is the "real" you which is pure consciousness.
Pure consciousness is the eternal process of image creation as holographic reality.
So Western reality is based on closed materialism -- we measure time as spatial distance -- and this started with Galileo!
In fact your "symptom" of Galileo is the ANSWER to your question -- about what "triggers" the messages.
Galileo was challenging Pythagorean harmonics. In Pythagorean harmonics the Perfect 5th is 2:3 and the Perfect 4th is 3:4 -- so C to G is 2:3 and G to C is 3:4 -- this violates the commutative property whereby A x B = B x A.
So Pythagorean harmonics was not allowed by Galileo. It turns out that Galileo misinterpreted Pythagorean harmonics -- setting up a strawman argument -- and then dismissed his own misinterpretation.
Newton actually properly understood how Pythagorean harmonics was translated into Western science. This has been documented in the 1960s -- it was discovered Newton got his concept of gravity straight from the early Western Greek scientists who had transformed Pythagorean harmonics into the Western symmetric measurements.
So Galileo claimed Pythagoras heard hammers hitting anvils and the anvils twice as big made a sound twice as low. But in fact this isn't proper harmonics.
Newton figured out the secret -- that a weight 4 times as heavy made a sound at twice the frequency by stretching a string four times as long.
Archytas, the collaborator of Plato, and then Archimedes, were the first to translate this concept of inverse squares into geometric magnitude using "alogon" as the irrational number.
But, again, this is not REAL Pythagorean harmonics! Real Pythagorean harmonics is that frequency is not measured as spatial distance. So in Western harmonics we learn the "circle of fifths" -- so that the ratio 2:3 keeps resonating as pure Number and then after 12 notes on the scale -- returns to the octave.
In fact in "real" harmonics this does not happen -- the fifths do not line up with the octaves -- and so in the West the real harmonics were simply just "averaged out" so that there could be an irrational number lined up as the inverse square distance rule. This works up since the double octave of 2 as 4 is also the inverse square -- 2 x 2 = 4. But the octaves double via arithmetic while the squares increase geometrically -- 2, 4, 8, versus 2, 4, 16. So this is the "bait and switch" of time as spatial distance which then launched the Western Greek Miracle of science.
Everything was groovy until along came quantum physics which is now the new foundation for science. Once again energy is defined by frequency as intensity -- not amplitude as spatial distance using number of weights. So in frequency as energy intensity, once again, you have violation of the commutative property which is otherwise the standard for Western logic. But still in quantum physics you have to rely on classical science for measurement -- the statistics has to be translated back to the technological context of measurement -- just as geometry has to rely on lines as distance for spatial measurement of frequency.
Nonwestern music is not like this because pure logical inference via listening is the means by which consciousness is made apparent. When we listen with great focus there is no "one" listening -- instead we get total energy frequency resonance which then creates light. This process of listening IS CONSCIOUSNESS. The light, as quantum physics shows us, has entanglement and superposition, so that spacetime is bent. This enables you to have visions which are not "yours" and also to have precognition, etc.
My blog has more details naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com...
Originally posted by Signals
Nice vid, I saw them one time in a bar in Ruston, Louisiana, good show.
I think dreams connect us to memories of the human subconscious.
Did you happen to notice how they were building the pyramids??
S/F
Originally posted by dragonsmusic
Originally posted by Signals
Nice vid, I saw them one time in a bar in Ruston, Louisiana, good show.
I think dreams connect us to memories of the human subconscious.
Did you happen to notice how they were building the pyramids??
S/F
You mean the vid that I painted in your head of what I saw in my head ? Well, thanks. Glad I could paint a motion picture in your mind.
It would be a great vid. But it's only in my head as of now
Originally posted by Signals
Originally posted by dragonsmusic
Originally posted by Signals
Nice vid, I saw them one time in a bar in Ruston, Louisiana, good show.
I think dreams connect us to memories of the human subconscious.
Did you happen to notice how they were building the pyramids??
S/F
You mean the vid that I painted in your head of what I saw in my head ? Well, thanks. Glad I could paint a motion picture in your mind.
It would be a great vid. But it's only in my head as of now
No, not that one, though it was cool - The Youtube link you posted.
Originally posted by Signals
Originally posted by dragonsmusic
Originally posted by Signals
Nice vid, I saw them one time in a bar in Ruston, Louisiana, good show.
I think dreams connect us to memories of the human subconscious.
Did you happen to notice how they were building the pyramids??
S/F
You mean the vid that I painted in your head of what I saw in my head ? Well, thanks. Glad I could paint a motion picture in your mind.
It would be a great vid. But it's only in my head as of now
No, not that one, though it was cool - The Youtube link you posted.
Originally posted by Mr Mask
You have admitted to (more then once on ATS) using substances that alter the mind.
Perhaps this is a reflection of that in damage done to your mind and ability to process reality.
That is my guess.
But, I assume you will still search for a "magical" reason for your delusions.
[edit on 10-1-2010 by Mr Mask]
Originally posted by dragonsmusic
I will leave you with a song called Galileo.
He is an icon of conspiracy theorists all over the world.
The singer songwriters of this song honor Galileo for his inner beauty while wondering aloud, in song lyric form, about the nature of reincarnation
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by Signals
Originally posted by dragonsmusic
I will leave you with a song called Galileo.
He is an icon of conspiracy theorists all over the world.
The singer songwriters of this song honor Galileo for his inner beauty while wondering aloud, in song lyric form, about the nature of reincarnation
www.youtube.com...
That link is an Indigo Girls song....
Drew Hempel's post above made alot of sense!
Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by dragonsmusic
Sigh...I am trolling?
You can't find a single reason why "mind altering substances" in the hands of an artist "may" result in this sort of experience?
REALLY!?
Are you telling me, that my offered possibility can be "nothing of the truth"?
Ok big guy...yeah, if you want to call me a troll for telling you what a decent psychologist would tell you for a price, then fine. I am a troll then....sure.
While I am a troll for it all, let me add-
Artists are a large percent of the world's paranoid schizophrenics...drug users make up a larger percent of such types.
You want to guess at possible explanations to your "little" experience as being "supernatural" or "telepathic", then fine...suit yourself.
Me? Well, I am one to gravitate towards things that are a tad more "level" in possibility.
And, a self admitted artist (one that is obviously seeking fame in many of his posts) using mind altering substances in a depressing world that produces a lot of anxiety and stress, is MORE likely to be suffering from delusions then actually suffering "telepathic mind signals from others".
Just my two cents...nothing trollish there.
But hey...I am a troll, right? A BIG STINKING TROLL!
Perhaps if I didn't point to this "more plausible explanation", and instead offered that "perhaps aliens are talking to you as you vibrate into the astral realm", I would be a welcomed addition to your thread...and not just a troll.
Silliness.
Originally posted by bookreader
People who awaken from sleep with involuntary images in their head, are normal. Imagery you can get is- involuntary imagery, usually precedes wakefulnees, can be vivid, realistic, bizarre content. Hypnopompic images are usually in reference to the subjects anticipation of the forthcoming day. It can be interpreted as a pathologic phenomenon by people who are worried about their mental health.
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by bookreader
People who awaken from sleep with involuntary images in their head, are normal. Imagery you can get is- involuntary imagery, usually precedes wakefulnees, can be vivid, realistic, bizarre content. Hypnopompic images are usually in reference to the subjects anticipation of the forthcoming day. It can be interpreted as a pathologic phenomenon by people who are worried about their mental health.
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by dragonsmusic
Sigh...you are having a "supernatural telepathic link with others"
And my reply to this was based on the fact that I posted on another thread about another subject where someone called me a troll?
Lol...
Ok friend...good luck out there.
Originally posted by dragonsmusic
Others have seen you troll and it was a minor point in the debate between us.