It's Colder In America, Than At Both Poles!

Originally posted by ThichHeaded
reply to post by DeathShield

 

and
SuperSlovak

Maybe it's global warming causing these drastic tempratures?

Its Climate Change now Not Global Warming. and to SuperSlovak maybe its just the earth doing what she does best...

And as I remember right they said yrs back that the winters would be getting warming and warmer and warmer Yet here we are in a deep freeze.. Isnt that something?

You cant have it both ways, either we are getting to warm or we are not... Or we are just seeing temps that the earth gives us and that is that. I vote the latter.

No Its global warming and has always been - the earth is getting hotter - this will cause climate change.

reply to post by CaptainIraq


So, I guess to simplify your point:

Fox News = Bad
Anyone who watches Fox News = Moron
Anyone who watches Glenn Beck= Idiot
Anyone who appears on Fox News with scientific data that opposes global warming = Delusional

I really despise you folks who chastise people with different beliefs accusing them of lesser intelligence simply because they dared watch a program you disagree with.

There is plenty of data contradicting the false rhetoric of the global warming community. It is science whether you want to believe it or not.

Originally posted by Yullose
You are right.
The Bermuda Triangle (in my opinion) was a previous true-magnetic North Pole at one stage on this Planet. Just like all the continents of the world were all one piece of land mass in history, we are constantly moving, constantly. It just doesnt stop, it never will. Some say the Earth is infact growing:

PLEACE WATCH THE ABOVE VIDEO AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES (EVERYONE)

No. Basic science fail. Ever heard of the law of conservation of mass? Where did all of those billions of tons of matter come from to help the Earth grow? That guy has to be joking...

Also, it is known that the poles of the Earth shift every so often (like every 12000 years or something), but that only refers to magnetic polarity, not physical landmasses moving...

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reply to post by Freenrgy2

Did you even read the links I posted? Choosing "not to believe" in science is akin to when people were disputing evolution (which by the way, the Pope admitted that it was scientific fact back in the 90's).

You don't "believe" in science. You either understand it or you don't.

Also, Fox News is bad...along with all of the other mainstream news sources because they're all grotesquely politically biased.

Also (again), don't call Glenn Beck an idiot. It's not nice to make fun of retards.

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Originally posted by pikestaff
As regards Mr Al Gore, after finding out his father worked for an oil company at $500,000 per annum, I tend to think the Rev Gore is in it for the money, after all, he has shares in a carbon credit trading company......

Did you ever stop to think that maybe he owns those shares BECAUSE HE LIKES THE CAUSE? Not everyone invests their money just to make more money -- Sometimes they invest it in companies that they think are doing good things!

Originally posted by CaptainIraq
Ever heard of the law of conservation of mass? Where did all of those billions of tons of matter come from to help the Earth grow?

I'm new to this so be forgiving. Does an abundance of matter not exist beyond Earth? Is it not conceivable that the accrued matter is derived from beyond the confines of Earth?

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by gingerbastard

 

Here in the Midwestern section of America it is colder than usual VERY COLD!

My mother of 72, who grew up in the midwest says the winters were just like this when she was a girl. She says 'its just natural cycles'.

No one could ever convince me but Hell has nothing to do with fire!

Originally posted by expat2368
We are headed into another mini (or maybe maxi) ice age. Get ready, because either this year or next there will be no summer, crops will fail and there will be a global food panic. Millions will starve to death.

Oh, please! It was in the low 80s here in southern California the other day (San Fernando Valley). That's some winter.

Originally posted by rexusdiablos

Originally posted by CaptainIraq
Ever heard of the law of conservation of mass? Where did all of those billions of tons of matter come from to help the Earth grow?

I'm new to this so be forgiving. Does an abundance of matter not exist beyond Earth? Is it not conceivable that the accrued matter is derived from beyond the confines of Earth?

There would have to be a heck of a lot of meteorites and comets (water-based) hitting the earth at a fairly consistent rate to "grow" the Earth. Besides according to his theory it would have to be growing from the inside...

Along with a myriad of other holes in his argument that I won't waste my time on (like his apparent disbelief that magma exists under the Earth's crust), he also refers to "scientists" and "the scientific community", citing no sources whatsoever.

The Pangaea theory is the one most real scientists stick to.

Originally posted by ..5..

Originally posted by tauristercus
reply to post by DeathShield

 

You guys should all move to sunny Adelaide, South Australia to take the chill out of your bones ... it's 5:30pm and the temp has started to drop ... it's currently dropped from 41c earlier in the day, down to 40c

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I'm not impressed. It's summer down there. Take a look at winter in Los Angeles Calif. High for today 76F and expected low tonight 52F.
The state may be overrun with illegal aliens, corrupt and bankrupt but the weather is fine.

"Not impressed..." ????
Well, let me tell you that I've lived here most of my life and believe me, with a forecast temp of 43c today and tomorrow, that I am VERY impressed with how much hotter our summers are becoming in the last few years.
It's 10:30am and already the mercury is climbing ... currently at 36c and my airconditioner has been running for over an hour now.

-24 Up here in Steamboat. This is nothing to us, we are wearing t-shirts.

reply to post by KyleOrtonArmy


Sir I would love to believe you but you are part of a one man army.... The army of kyle orton? This is not a site for humor sir!


And my bengals lost so I can't say much.

On topic. I know everyone likes to post their current temp but it isnt that relevant to the thread. No scientist in support of global warming/climate change will tell you that you cant have a cold day or winter with global warming. Most will say that you will actually have colder winter days but maintain an overall average that is higher through the year. Different places on the planet will also behave differently.

Originally posted by CaptainIraq

Originally posted by Yullose
You are right.
The Bermuda Triangle (in my opinion) was a previous true-magnetic North Pole at one stage on this Planet. Just like all the continents of the world were all one piece of land mass in history, we are constantly moving, constantly. It just doesnt stop, it never will. Some say the Earth is infact growing:

((video))

PLEACE WATCH THE ABOVE VIDEO AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES (EVERYONE)

No. Basic science fail. Ever heard of the law of conservation of mass? Where did all of those billions of tons of matter come from to help the Earth grow? That guy has to be joking...

Also, it is known that the poles of the Earth shift every so often (like every 12000 years or something), but that only refers to magnetic polarity, not physical landmasses moving...

[edit on 9-1-2010 by CaptainIraq]

I was the person who posted this post, not Yullose. Post is here:
reply to post by the_denv


The billions of tons of matter?
The Earths core is a miniature Sun, I think it would make logical sense that the Earths Core would be constantly contracting, then cooling; thus expanding the earth Like slowly pumping up a flat soccer ball.
Land mass gets thinner, I would imagine. The Earths crust, the inner mantle etc, I would imagine that would also get thinner, yet bigger.

Our Earths core is like the Sun, and like the Sun it expands. Our Sun is evolving into a Red Giant as we speak. It will take approx 5 billion years, but its happening and its real. No matter what our planet s going to be gone in 5 billion years. This planet will turn into a water planet, then it will dry up and become like Venus, then Mercury, then (as some know) like Vulcan. It will go into a lava state, eventually it will keep expanding until it is completely covered in lava. Its fiat.

You know we don't actually consider "wind chill" to effect actual temperature? .. if it's 5º and windchill is -12º ........ it's still 5º

It just FEELS colder than what it is, because your being blasted with air. If it's 100º and you stand in front of a fan, the fan is in fact blowing 100º air at you, but you feel cooler...

So a few things wrong with this foxnews article...

1 temps are not effected by wind, it is what it is.. "feel" factor changes nothing.
2 its summer time .. actually, mid point summer at that, at the South Pole, the SP will be having it's warmest temps of the year! DER
3 the air coming down into the America's is from the arctic circle, pulled down by a stronger than normal jet stream ..

Basically what I am saying..... the article makes no sense.. in fact, I am surprised it failed to mention the big boogie man of the decade GLOBAL WARMING (I mean climate change since it's cold not hot.......)

reply to post by CaptainIraq


Have to agree with ya there.. "smaller earth" theory is hilarious.. I watched it simply because I have never in my life heard such a thing.. disappointing though. Matter cannot come from nothing, as you say, so how could earth triple in size?

And even a 5th grader can explain to the guy in the video the earths sea bed is a conveyor belt, subduction and recycling of the earths crust.

Yeah, I agree this seems off. Summer in the southern hemisphere and winter in the northern, yet there is a difference from what I experienced in texas as a kid and what is going on now. Over the past few years things have been slightly changing with this year being the most affected. I live in Denton, just north of Dallas. Texas weather is crazy but this seems something more.

reply to post by DGFenrir


Actually i pulled straight-a's in earth sciences. And Biology was my strongsuit. Climate change is real. It happens all the time regardless of our presence. A warming period can induce regions of the planet to experience colder than normal temperatures, but to suggest that it could cause a total ice age over the whole planet is stupid. It is because of the Greenhouse effect that our planet is not a giant iceball.

As an age hardened resident of northern New York I have seen this phenomenon before and it is really quite simple; someone left the damn door to Canada open again and all the cold air is leaking out. If you notice it getting warmer in the next few days you'll know if I got it closed or not.

Oh, and it is now -8F and has been over 20 just once in the last two weeks. And it won't stop snowing. First couple of days is pretty, but the next 5 are pretty ..... bad.

Originally posted by zlots331
As an age hardened resident of northern New York I have seen this phenomenon before and it is really quite simple; someone left the damn door to Canada open again and all the cold air is leaking out. pretty ..... bad.

It's because they're so polite that they just leave it open all the time...