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Originally posted by mikelee
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The last line= 60 Nautical Mile Restriction of the Washington DC/VOR/DME area.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
...which was brought from outside by Roger, hows how those who are misinformed can be completely misinformed by others.
Originally posted by mikelee
My posts are no more outlandish than the OS itself and what I find really disturbing is that the American people have become so sheepish that they'll accept anything presented to them by their government without questions, without scruitny simply because they cannot accept that there may very well be another more sinister explanation for what really caused 911.
Nor were other defense measures, including surface-to-air missiles at the White House or Pentagon deployed
The scrambling range is known as the Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) this extends out to 50 miles
The ADIZ was put into effect in February 2003.
The Pentagon is one of the most heavily guarded and watched sites in the U.S., along with Area 51, P-56, and NORAD.
April Gallop
The Secret Service, which has been using an air surveillance system called Tigerwall for some time (see (September 2000 and after), tracks both American 77 and United 93 as they approach Washington and assumes the White House is a target. Secret Service agent Barbara Riggs will later say, “The Secret Service prepared to defend the facility,” although the precise nature of the preparations is unclear. [New York Times, 9/12/2001; MSNBC, 9/22/2001; Daily Telegraph, 12/16/2001; Washington Post, 1/27/2002; Associated Press, 8/21/2002; 9/11 Commission, 6/17/2004; PCCW Newsletter, 3/2006]
According to USA Today, “In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conduct[s] exercises simulating what the White House [later] says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties.” One of the imagined targets is the World Trade Center. According to NORAD, these scenarios are regional drills, rather than regularly scheduled continent-wide exercises. They utilize “[n]umerous types of civilian and military aircraft” as mock hijacked aircraft, and test “track detection and identification; scramble and interception; hijack procedures; internal and external agency coordination; and operational security and communications security procedures.” The main difference between these drills and the 9/11 attacks is that the planes in the drills are coming from another country, rather than from within the US. Before 9/11, NORAD reportedly conducts four major exercises at headquarters level per year. Most of them are said to include a hijack scenario (see Before September 11, 2001). [USA Today,
The exercise takes place at Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida. Drones simulating cruise missiles are launched from Tyndall, head out to sea, circle a ship as if they are being launched from there, and then head back to land. Air Force F-16s, Navy gunners, and Army missile defense units attempt to find and track the drones. The Coast Guard attempts to catch the ship serving as the dummy launch site. [Tampa Tribune, 6/3/2001] The next Amalgam Virgo exercise, scheduled to take place in 2002, will involve two simultaneous commercial aircraft hijackings. Planning for that exercise will begin before in July 2001 (see July 2001). [American Forces Press Service, 6/4/2002; USA Today, 4/18/2004]
June 2001 - A major training exercise based upon a simulated terrorist attack is held in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, which neighbors Somerset County where Flight 93 crashes on 9/11. The exercise, called Mall Strike 2001, is conducted in Greengate Mall, Hempfield, and involves over 600 emergency first responders and emergency managers responding to the simulated release of a toxic chemical agent and the simulated release of radiation and radiological contamination. [Westmoreland County Annual Financial Report, 2001 ; Connellsville Daily Courier, 9/11/2002]
July 2001 - NORAD is already planning for the Amalgam Virgo 02 exercise. This exercise, scheduled for June 2002, will involve the simulation of two simultaneous commercial aircraft hijackings. One plane, a Delta 757, flown by Delta pilots, will fly from Salt Lake City, Utah to Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, Alaska. It will be “hijacked” by FBI agents posing as terrorists. The other plane will be a Navy C-9 bound from Oak Harbor, Washington to Vancouver, British Columbia, and will be “hijacked” by Royal Canadian Mounted Police. On both planes, military personnel will act as civilian passengers. US and Canadian fighters are to respond, and either force the planes to land or simulate shooting them down. Describing Amalgam Virgo 02 to the 9/11 Commission, NORAD’s Major General Craig McKinley later says, “Threats of killing hostages or crashing were left to the script writers to invoke creativity and broaden the required response for players.” About 1,500 people will participate in the exercise. USA Today will note that this is an exception to NORAD’s claim that, prior to 9/11, it focused only on external threats to the US and did not consider the possibility of threats arising from within the US. 9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste will similarly comment that this planned exercise shows that, despite frequent comments to the contrary, the military considered simultaneous hijackings before 9/11. [CNN, 6/4/2002; American Forces Press Service, 6/4/2002; Associated Press, 6/5/2002; 9/11 Commission, 5/23/2003; USA Today, 4/18/2004]
Source: Don Rumsfeld, SECDEF
Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.
..And shot down the plane in Pennsylvania...
Source: Don Rumsfeld, SECDEF
Does it strike anyone as odd that all of these drills & excersises are held in either close proximity or in, the impacted places on 911?
...The exercise, called Mall Strike 2001, is conducted in Greengate Mall, Hempfield, and involves over 600 emergency first responders and emergency managers responding to the simulated release of a toxic chemical agent and the simulated release of radiation and radiological contamination...
Almost an exact duplicate of 911 below. But, thank goodness it only an excersise!!
July 2001 - NORAD is already planning for the Amalgam Virgo 02 exercise. This exercise, scheduled for June 2002, will involve the simulation of two simultaneous commercial aircraft hijackings. One plane, a Delta 757, flown by Delta pilots, will fly from Salt Lake City, Utah to Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, Alaska. It will be “hijacked” by FBI agents posing as terrorists. The other plane will be a **Navy C-9 bound from Oak Harbor, Washington to Vancouver, British Columbia, and will be “hijacked” by Royal Canadian Mounted Police....
A NAVY aircraft uh? Interesting.....
Originally posted by mikelee
For 93 (or 98 if you read the CIA doc) it makes sense that there was a shoot down of that flight. Why?
* Developing a passenger revolt story is more favorable than just saying "we shot down a commerical airliner over PA."
* This story would allow for the shoot down and subsequent crash. It also places blame on the terrorists thereby allowing command to escape any explanations as to why they shot it down AND public outrage of shooting down an airliner just to kill terrorists.
* As I stated before (in which some have twisted into other things) any missile can be shot at a target with no ordinance loaded into it. Its done for range practice everyday.
Look at the flight path of that airliner after it turned around. its heading straight for DC. I think explains more than some are willing to admit.
AND...if 3 other planes were able to reach their targets then why are we supposed to be led to think this one wouldn't have either?
Article: Training, Time, Luck Cut the Toll;Scene Eerily Similar to 1987 Sioux City Disaster Exercise
Does it strike anyone as odd that all of these drills & excersises are held in either close proximity or in, the impacted places on 911?
Originally posted by GenRadek
Originally posted by mikelee
For 93 (or 98 if you read the CIA doc) it makes sense that there was a shoot down of that flight. Why?
* Developing a passenger revolt story is more favorable than just saying "we shot down a commerical airliner over PA."
* This story would allow for the shoot down and subsequent crash. It also places blame on the terrorists thereby allowing command to escape any explanations as to why they shot it down AND public outrage of shooting down an airliner just to kill terrorists.
* As I stated before (in which some have twisted into other things) any missile can be shot at a target with no ordinance loaded into it. Its done for range practice everyday.
Look at the flight path of that airliner after it turned around. its heading straight for DC. I think explains more than some are willing to admit.
AND...if 3 other planes were able to reach their targets then why are we supposed to be led to think this one wouldn't have either?
So in other words, there actually were AQ backed hijackers, on a terrorist mission to attack the US? So then why are so many "9/11 Truthers" using Flight93 as part of the conspiracy when it pretty much shoots them in the foot when looked at logically? The whole 9/11 Truth Movement is hinged on "inside job" nonsense that caused 9/11. All planned by Bush, Cheney, CIA, FBI, NWO, Micky-Mouse Club, etc etc etc........ with the help of super special magic secret technology, etc etc. If anything, Flight93 is the odd man out. If it was shot down, then it really was hijacked, and if it was really hijacked, it was by AQ terrorists and being used as a weapon to attack the US. And if that is the case, then the Pentagon, and the WTCs were all actually attacked by AQ terrorists, and all those stupid foolish conspiracy versions of what happened (demo charges, thermites, thermates, holograph planes, no planes, missiles, death rays, etc etc etc) are canceled out. Flight 93 being shot down basically shoots down the 9/11 Truthers!
A NAVY aircraft uh? Interesting.....