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Originally posted by Zeptepi
reply to post by PunksNotDead
Same guy that flew kites in a thunderstorm with a wet cotten string and a metal key!
It has been recently questioned whether or not Franklin actually did perform this experiment; the question remains controversial.
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You do realize that the federal government has jurisdiction over all air travel over the USA.
The same system that allows you to feel perfectly safe
Go back and read the whole thread..that has been quoted about 10 times here already
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" - Benjamin Franklin
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by drwizardphd
Aside from the gross invasion of your privacy every time you want to fly somewhere?
you have the choice - if you think it is a gross invasion of privacy then dont fly
First of all. I would be interested to hear under what authority that jurisdiction was established, certainly not under civil law.
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart i > CHAPTER 401 > § 40103Prev | Next § 40103. Sovereignty and use of airspace
(1) The United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace of the United States.
(2) A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace. To further that right, the Secretary of Transportation shall consult with the Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board established under section 502 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (29 U.S.C. 792) before prescribing a regulation or issuing an order or procedure that will have a significant impact on the accessibility of commercial airports or commercial air transportation for handicapped individuals.
(b) Use of Airspace.—
(1) The Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall develop plans and policy for the use of the navigable airspace and assign by regulation or order the use of the airspace necessary to ensure the safety of aircraft and the efficient use of airspace. The Administrator may modify or revoke an assignment when required in the public interest.
(2) The Administrator shall prescribe air traffic regulations on the flight of aircraft (including regulations on safe altitudes) for—
(A) navigating, protecting, and identifying aircraft;
(B) protecting individuals and property on the ground;
(C) using the navigable airspace efficiently; and
(D) preventing collision between aircraft, between aircraft and land or water vehicles, and between aircraft and airborne objects.
(3) To establish security provisions that will encourage and allow maximum use of the navigable airspace by civil aircraft consistent with national security, the Administrator, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall—
(A) establish areas in the airspace the Administrator decides are necessary in the interest of national defense; and
(B) by regulation or order, restrict or prohibit flight of civil aircraft that the Administrator cannot identify, locate, and control with available facilities in those areas.
(4) Notwithstanding the military exception in section 553 (a)(1) of title 5, subchapter II of chapter 5 of title 5 applies to a regulation prescribed under this subsection.
(c) Foreign Aircraft.— A foreign aircraft, not part of the armed forces of a foreign country, may be navigated in the United States as provided in section 41703 of this title.
(d) Aircraft of Armed Forces of Foreign Countries.— Aircraft of the armed forces of a foreign country may be navigated in the United States only when authorized by the Secretary of State.
(e) No Exclusive Rights at Certain Facilities.— A person does not have an exclusive right to use an air navigation facility on which Government money has been expended. However, providing services at an airport by only one fixed-based operator is not an exclusive right if—
(1) it is unreasonably costly, burdensome, or impractical for more than one fixed-based operator to provide the services; and
(2) allowing more than one fixed-based operator to provide the services requires a reduction in space leased under an agreement existing on September 3, 1982, between the operator and the airport.
Secondly my comment wasn't about air travel it was about the ability to perform a strip search.
I thought the whole point of these increased "measures" is because we are currently in grave danger. Your feelings of safety are not approved please refer back to your television box. It will let you know when you may feel safe again, until a new security breach is identified and then more measures will be necessary.
(1) The United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace of the United States.
A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace.
when are you referring to a strip search or scanner search prior to boarding an aircraft for travel in the United States It can become necessary. The random strip searches in front of your home is not.
If the U.S. Government has exclusive sovereignty then by definition no one else has any ability to claim rights to that airspace. Yet it is admitted that a citizen has the right to transit through through the airspace.
Originally posted by charlyv
I you could poll the relatives of those that were lost in 9/11, I am sure you would come up with the overwhelming opinion that having some machine take a snapshot of your naked body would be preferrable to the increased risk of not arriving at your intended destination or being in the towers hit by those planes.
You seem to be confused about the concept of sovereignty and citizenship rights.
The law is simply acknowledging that that airspace belongs to the people of the United States
I you could poll the relatives of those that were lost in 9/11, I am sure you would come up with the overwhelming opinion that having some machine take a snapshot of your naked body would be preferrable to the increased risk of not arriving at your intended destination or being in the towers hit by those planes.
Originally posted by dodgygeeza
Its the posters like this one that have ruined ATS. What an utterly worthless waste of space some of the members on this site have become. 0% intellectual discussion, how quaint....
[edit on 9-1-2010 by dodgygeeza]
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by drwizardphd
Aside from the gross invasion of your privacy every time you want to fly somewhere?
you have the choice - if you think it is a gross invasion of privacy then dont fly
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by drwizardphd
Aside from the gross invasion of your privacy every time you want to fly somewhere?
you have the choice - if you think it is a gross invasion of privacy then dont fly