US Coastguard report - UFOs over Lake Erie.

Originally posted by NorthStargal52
I realize this comment is only speculation Karl 12, but I cant help thinking these thoughts because of the video you just posted. On Lake Erie.

Hi NorthStargal, thanks for the reply -I can't remember posting any videos about Lake Erie but I do appreciate you sharing the link - along with Ohio, Wisconsin has had more than its fair share of strange UFO sightings down the years so it was an interesting read.

Originally posted by NorthStargal52
Ok its been over 60 years now that our government has been screwing around with research on UFO's privately and secretly

Yes a lot of people think this is the case -I don't know if you've seen it before but Easynow has posted a very interesting interview about the subject here (third post down).

As for the object witnessed over Lake Erie, I'd love to know what it was -I'd also love to know the reason why MUFON are witholding the photographs.

Cheers.

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Yes I went back and looked so i did an edit hope that helps sorry. I posted some websites inregards to MN. I am following your other posts and trying to catch up. I have been silently waiting for more on this topic as it is one that I am most concerned about.
Thanxs NSG52

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Thanks for the link.

Theres also another pretty large thread here dealing with several new videos:

For more than a week, a mysterious pulsating light has been appearing nightly over Lake Erie east of downtown Cleveland — showing up at approximately 7:30 pm and zipping around in the darkness for about two hours before disappearing — reports MSNBC.

The Cleveland UFO: What on Earth?

Cheers.

More on the 1988 East lake UFO incident including claims the photograph was examined by an optical physicist.

A young man out using a small telescope to observe the moon spotted one of the triangles. He was able to quickly grab a small disposable camera and snap a photo of one of the objects.

The photo was later analyzed by an optical physicist, who considered it to be a legitimate image of an unexplained object.

Also reports of further activity the following evening:

According to the shaken witness, the Coast Guardsmen drove away also shaken and 'white-faced'. In the ensuing investigation started at daybreak next morning, the only tangible evidence that could be tied to the incident were scattered chunks of broken ice.

On the evening of March 5th, the mysterious triangles were again observed by several witnesses living along the lake shore. The Coastguard was alerted once more and had dispatched a larger team. This time the Coastguard arrived too late to observe the phenomenon.

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Another (as yet unsubstantiated) news article from two years earlier involving U.S. Coastguard reports and strange goings on over Lake Erie:

From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Location: CLEVELAND, OH.
DATE: 26 OCTOBER 1986
TIME: 1800 HOURS
WITNESSES: TWO
SOURCE: PLAIN DEALER, CLEVELAND, OH.

Cleveland, OH - Oct. 27, 1986 CR: B. Robbins/COUD-I Explosion over lake reported; search on Two Coast Guard boats searched last night for debris after two people said they saw an explosion over Lake Erie, off Euclid. About 6 p.m. a resident of Euclid high-rise near E. 260th St. reported seeing an explosion in the air over the lake. The woman said she saw smoke and debris falling into the lake. Coast Guard officials called Federal Aviation Administration controllers and airports last night to see whether any planes had been reported missing. None were. An official at the Cuyahoga County Airport in Richmond Heights also reported seeing a bright light descending from the sky about the same time, the Coast Guard said.

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There is a long history and quite the chain of video evidence to support unusual light activity over Lake Erie. The simple explanation of air traffic on the way to CLE airport does not fit in most cases.

I have lived in NE Ohio for most of my life and have spent a lot of time sailing the great and often violent waters of the lake. I've seen things at night and during the day but often played them off to my eyes playing tricks on me after being in the sun too long or having one too many beers at the end of the day.

Good thread!

for someone NOT to believe is to doubt all the evidence...even the evidence obtained by the military. it has reached the point after so much documentation has come out, that to doubt that there is visitors from other planets is the "nutball" theory. tens of thousands of witnesses, from all walks of life, from other countries, confirm we here on earth are being visited. to not see this is laughable, childish, naivate'.

Originally posted by karl 12

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USO Research

Cheers.

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Karl, what newspaper is that from and what cases from '66 around bass strait are they talking about?

cheers mob

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Hey Mobtek, info about the article is contained in this thread:


USO Research


If I remember correctly its from the National Enquirer but haven't got enough time to look through all 35 pages of the thread.

Cheers.

I live right on the shores of Lake Erie, in fact only about 5 miles west of the Perry Nuclear Plant. There are often many reports of strange lights out over the lake. Per usual, however, the local media makes light of, and basically ridicules the witnesses with the way they report the story.

Originally posted by IamAbeliever
There are often many reports of strange lights out over the lake. Per usual, however, the local media makes light of, and basically ridicules the witnesses with the way they report the story.

IamAbeliever, thanks for the reply mate and it's interesting that you live where the very incident was said to have taken place - have you ever heard anything about it from friends, family or residents?

As for the corporate media and the use of ridicule - yes I certainly agree there and it's probably one of the major factors when it comes to people being reluctant to talk about their experiences - I don't know if you've seen it before but Terry Hansen gives a great talk below about the subject - he also makes some interesting points here about the Robertson panel.

Google Video Link

"A mesmerizing account of his investigation into whether some of America's most influential news organizations, many having maintained close ties to the U.S. intelligence community, have willingly suppressed full and accurate news coverage of extraterrestrial related phenomena for a variety of "national-security" reasons. Hansen reveals the remarkable and persistent difference in UFO-related news coverage exhibited by local and national news organizations and reviews the history of censorship and propaganda during the twentieth century and the evidence for media-government collusion over the course of the half-century-long UFO controversy.

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Cheers.

Another UFO sighting near Perry Nuclear power plant, this time by a Deputy Sheriff and his wife:

Location: Willoughby Hills, Ohio (Lake County)

Date: June 16, 2004

On Wednesday, June 16, 2004, a veteran Deputy Sheriff in Lake County, Ohio and his wife observed an unusual triangular-shaped aircraft from two separate vantage points at nearly the same time. The husband and wife couple discussed their experience in detail the following afternoon.

The wife reported sighting the bizarre aircraft at a closer vantage point and with more dramatic detail, spotting this unusual object while driving east along State Route 91 near the State Route 91 and 306 intersections near Willoughby Hills, Ohio (Lake County)..

Deputy Sheriff Coleman reports that the high-flying object he saw traveling from west to east last Wednesday, June 16 was nothing he was familiar with. The object was apparently higher than a jet airliner that was also seen flying through the area.

Most interestingly, according to the witness, was how this unidentified object seemed to be self-luminous.

“I was concerned to find out if this object was just reflecting sunlight. But after studying this for the length of time that I could, it did not seem to change in intensity or seem to be reflecting light in any way,” he said. “It had an angular shape to it, giving me the impression that it was self luminous. In my opinion, it was self- luminous.

“It was definitely traveling in the easterly direction of the Perry Nuclear plant when I first saw it,” Coleman said. “Then this thing seemed to slow down and get bigger. The object was just ‘gone,’ not accelerating or flew off somewhere, it simply disappeared.

“I had a good visual on it, there was no question about it moving off.”

When asked further about its departure method or how sure he was of this observation, Coleman affirmed his certainty that the object did not depart in a conventional sense.

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Article about "Wizard Lights" over Lake Erie - 12th of December, 1867:

The object appeared to be some 200 or more feet in length upon the water, and about as high above the water as an upper cabin steamer, such as was in use upon the Lake twenty years ago. At times the flames would start up in spires or sheets of light, then away from side to side, and then die away, precisely as would be the case with a large fire exposed to a strong wind; and two or three times there was the appearance of a cloud of sparks, as if some portion of the upper works had fallen into the burning mass below. The sky and water were beautifullly irradiated by the light during its great brilliancy. The light gradually subsided, with occasional flashes until it disappeared altogether. The light of Tuesday evening, although very brilliant for a time, was not nearly so brilliant nor of so long duration as that of 1852.

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Here is something I found while doing my own research, It is an interview with the Actual Eastlake 1988 UFO Wittness Sheila Baker, this is pretty cool, Not sure why this has not made it out into the masses because this UFO case is so famous now but this interview is still pretty much unkown, here is that interview...

INTERVIEW OF WITNESSES TO EASTLAKE UFO


On March 26, 1988, two civilian witnesses to the Eastlake UFOs
(W1 and her husband W2) who were on the beach with the Coast Guard March
4, 1988 were interviewed. The following is a partial transcript of that
interview, conducted by Dale Wedge (DW) and Rick Dell'Aquila (RD).
Several other witnesses have also been interviewd and photographic
evidence has been obtained. To date, however , the Coast Guard has
refused further information or interviews of its personnel concerning
the UFO sighting that night near the CEI electric power plant. The
investigation continues.

RD ...Please tell us what happened in your own words.

W1 We were coming home (on March 4, 1988) and I saw something over
the lake...and it wasn't moving and I had my husband go down the street
and I said, "Go down to the beach because I'm telling you there is
something out there." He kept laughing at me. I said I was serious and
we went down there. We got out of the car and walked to the beach. I
had left the kids in the car and you could see it. It looked almost
like the shape of a blimp and had lights on both sides. One end was
brighter and the other end was a little bit dimmer, but one end flashed.
It wasn't a constant light that was on. It seemed to rock a little
bit--you could just see it rocking back and forth. It hovered and
didn't mak e any noise. The ice was cracking really bad and the ice down
here doesn't crack like that. It was making like--it was rumbling and
cracking it was real, real loud. There were no animals barking or
nothing. Around here we have a lot of dogs and that was surprising
because you always hear the dogs out. There were no animals--just the
real loud noise out of the lake. We were standing on the beach and my
husband and I were looking at this thing. It started to turn and I
thought--you know how you get really eerie feelings? I said to myself
there i s something up there. You could see it was a ship or something
bacause you could see there was a gray line like a football kind of
thing in the middle, but you couldn't really see it. You could just see
it was there. Do you understand what I'm saying?

RD We are going to ask you to draw a sketch in a while.

W1 You could see the whole thing, but not real well. You could see
there was a middle to it. We stayed and we watched it for a
while...(interview interrup ted by phone call).

DW Okay, we are back o n. We had a phone call interruption.

W1 ...Okay, we sat down at the beach and while we were watching this
I had the kids in the car and I was getting kind of "weirded-out" you
know, because you hear about these things, but you never really believe
it until you see them. It started to turn toward us. It was coming in
closer to land and because my kids were in the car, I didn't want to
stay down at the beach, because you never know whats going to happen or
if it was going to come down to get us or wha tever.

RD In other words, you were concerned for your safety?

W1 Yeah, because it was coming closer to us. You could see...it
seemed like it knew we were there. We were the only ones down there at
the time and I was getting really nervous. I told my husband, "You
know, we've got two kids in the car. Let's get them home and safe so we
don't have to worry about anything." He said okay, so we got the kids
back to the house and I put them in their room and I locked the door
because I had a real e erie feeling, you know after we left there. We
were down there a while looking at it and we came home to watch it from
our living room.

RD When you say "we"--who else was there with you?

W1 My husband and my kids. So I was looking at it from here and I
said to my husband, "Well, maybe I'm nuts, I don't know, but let's call
Sue," who lives across the street, "and see if she sees the same thing
that we do." So I did, I called he r and her and her son went outside
and they saw the same thing and we kept hearing this noise at the lake
and that really scared us because, like I said, the lake doesn't make
noises like that. We watched it most of the evening and when it started
to come down, we all got real curious and we all went back down. Sue
drove down to the beach and she saw it with her son and her husband
thinks she's totally "cracked-up." (Laughter.) But they all did.
Everybody thinks, you know, we didn't see what we did. So now we get
down there and the thing's starting to land. You co uld see like red
and blue lights and they said they were planets and gasses and nonsense
like that, but they were actual lights starting to flutter. But before
this, while it was still in the sky, there were like little triangle
"planes", about, there were, we counted about five--we weren't sure if
there were five or six, but we counted five of them that were running
back and forth. They were going up and down, like hovering. They
didn't make any noise, but they were going REALLY fast across the sky
and by this time the Coast Guard was down there. I had called the Coast
Guard, I would say at least twelve times and they kept telling me,
"Well, your crazy and nothing's wrong...(Phone call interrruption).

DW Pause for phone call.

DW Okay, we're back on.

W1 So now what had happened was these planes were like, looked like
they had come out of it, because they came out of nowhere. We saw them
come out...I don't know if it was on the side or on the front of it, but
you could tell they ca me out of it because they were real litte. They
looked like little yellow triangles. They were real bright and went
super, super fast.

They went up and down like this, instead of, you know how a plane goes
this way? Well, they were going up and down and like diagonally at it
and they were hovering around it and then they started shooting out
toward the lake and this time the Coast Guard saw all this because
that's when they sent their people out when these little planes started
appearing. And w hen they g ot down here, they saw these things and
they were coming real close to the coastline. That's when these kids
were getting scared.

RD When you say "kids," do you mean Coast Guard personnel?

W1 Yeah, they were young boys. They were real scared and we got
REALLY scared because we were right down on the beach there and we
figured the coastline that would be it. We were afraid they would attack
their truck, because their truck had lights on it. So w e told them,
"Turn off your lights." Because the more they kept coming closer and
closer to the lights of the truck, because the truck was parked on the
hill. There's like a little hill over there. They could see the lights,
because they seemed to be coming at the lights. And so we had them shut
their lights off because we were scared. You never know what was going
to go on. We didn't know what was in these ships or planes or whatever
they were because we couldn't tell, but I've never seen a yellow
triangle fly around the sky.

RD It was yellow?

W 1 Yeah. Bright, REAL BRIGHT. It looked like a light. That's what
it looked like. It looked like a bright light. You know how a car
light you'd have? It looked just like that, but it glowed. It was
yellow.

RD Was there any portion of it that was brighter than any other portion
of it?

W1 No. It ws all real bright.

RD Just one solid, bright light?

W1 Yeah, little bright triangles. You know like the little glider
models you get for your kids? There in triangles. You make paper a
irplanes...Like that shape? That's exactly what they were, and they
were solid. They weren't...it didn't have wings or anything else.

RD Was it even-sided? All three sides of equal length?

W1 No, no, it was more pointed like that (gesturing).

RD Okay.

W1 It was exactly like that (forming triangle with her fingers).
The front was more pointy. How's that? I flunked geometry by the way.

RD Okay.

W1 But it was more pointy, almost like the tip of an arroww.

R D Okay, so i n other words, the two sides were longer...

W1 Were longer than the base...I was wondering why you were laughing
at me.

RD We're not laughing at you.

DW No. We're not.

(Wedge and Dell'Aquila had reacted to the fact that the triangular
objects described by W1 were identical to those described by other
independent witnesses that night and identical to the bright yellow
triangular object one witness photographed.)

W1 Okay. They were all solid bright light. There was no part of it
that wa s darker than others. We saw it real close down at the
shoreline. But when they started coming at this thing and they went
back into it, too, we thought maybe it disapeared over the lake. Well,
here they had gone, shooting out over the lake and coming, then all of a
sudden we saw tham about an hour later, coming back REALLY fast, and
they came right into that ship.

RD Did you see anything open up on the ship, a door or anything like
that?

W1 No, but they went righ t into it because they went rig ht between
the lights, so it had to be an opening on the side of it, because they
went right into it. They came up and then they went right into it.

RD Were you able to observe which direction they left.

W1 They went out that way, toward Canada...they went east too, this
way. But none of them went that way, toward Cleveland. They all went
this way.

RD Did any of them go south or southeast?

W1 No. They stayed over the lake...they went east and n orth toward
Canada, and that's where basi cally they stayed. When you saw them
shooting out, it was just almost right over land and we had seen them
come out and said to my husband," What in the world is that?" He was
just laughing. He said, "You're just..." and he got, you know, he goes,
"Yeah, sure, I'm going to tell my mother we were sitting home watching
UFOs tonight." But, that's what happened. They were there and then we
saw them like I said, about an hour later, come back in the sa me

direction they came in, and they all went right back into the thing,
one at a time, too. It wasn't like they all swooped down on it and went
back into it. They went back in it one at a time, and then the ship
seemed to land in the lake. It was about maybe an hour difference, an
hour lapse. The ship started setting down on Lake Erie. That's when
all these colored lights started coming on when it sat down. You could
see the lights as it sat down on the lake, because it was all ice. As
soon as it landed, about five minutes later after it landed, you coul d
still see it, the red and the yellow lights and the blue lights, running
around the bottom on the lake, because it was a clear night, it was
beautiful. Then as soon as all the lights went out on it, the lake
stopped cracking. Everything got dead silent. There wasn't
animals--nothing. Everything got totally quiet. That was it.

DW Can you give us a time, approximate time?

RD When did you first see it?

W1 About six. I think it was about six. My husband said it w as
later but I don't thin k so, because it was just getting dark.

DW It doesn't get dark until about 6:30

W1 Okay, then maybe it was a little later, about 6:30 or 7:00 P.M.
It wasn't exactly dark, but it wasn't light out. It was like dusk,
almost, where it's just starting to get dark.

RD When did you last observe it?

W1 I'd say about 11:30 P.M.

RD You were down there for 4-1/2 to 5 hours?

W1 No. We came back up to the house and watched it. When it
started to set, we went back down.

RD I see. At the same time, were you able to observe any of the
ojects in the sky that you would recognize?

W1 Oh, yeah, absolutely because we were there, we kept looking at
them and looking at them to see, you know, we were curious. Even from
the house, when it started moving in-land, you could see, you know, what
it was if you looked real close.

RD Where was the moon for example?

W1 The moon?

RD Yeah. Was it out?


W1 Yeah, the re were moon, the stars were beautiful. All the stars
were ou t.

RD Was it a clear night?

W1 Yeah. it was real clear.

RD Did you notice where the planets were?

W1 The planets that they told me this was?

RD Well, the planets.

W1 I didn't really...we weren't looking for the planets, but they
would have been behind it, and farther off.

RD Is there any question in your mind that what you were looking at
was something that you should have recognized, like the planets or...?

W1 No. It was definitely a ship, because y ou could see that there
was a center of it. You could also see planes coming out of it, or
little vehicles or whatever they are that came out of it and we saw them
go back in it. We were almost right directly underneath it...The more
we stayed down at the beach, it was turning toward us to come toward us
and I got scared, thinking well, maybe someone would come out or get us
or something will happen...If we could see it, I knew it could see us,
because we were right out in the open on fla t land looking at it...

T he interview continued for several more minutes and W1 drew
some sketches.

W1 (Drawing) The (light) on the left hand side of the object
blinked constantly.

RD Was there a regular pattern to the blinking?

W1 It was almost like if you looked out the lake, you know how they
have those (lights) when you come in from the lake? Almost like that.
(Phone interrruption)

DW We are going to pause for another phone call.

RD What color was the object between the lights?

W1 ...gunmetal gray .

RD Did it seem solid?

W1 Yes.

RD Did it seem to have a three-dimensional shape?


W1 You could tell it was almost rounded. It was like a
football...It was all the same color and you could definitely see the
outline of it. We were standing SO close, that you could see the
outline. It was totally dark in the center of it and at the top, but
you could tell the difference between the sky and the shape.

RD Did it seem to have hard e dges or fuzzy edges?

W1 No, they were very cle ar edges...

The interview continued and W1's husband (W2) arrived home.

W2 ...Boy, I'll tell you you ought to see this thing, I watched this
thing down at the beach with the Coast Guard guys. It was the strangest
thing I've ever seen in my life. It had these guys running, they were
so scared. It was strange. As it got lower to the water, all these
little, what we thought were jets, came and hovered right above this
thing. We assumed they were those Harrier jets that can just hover.
Whe n t hey got closer, these jets came about forty or fifty feet above
the ice and they were going back and forth across the lake unbelievably
fast. They were covering a fifty mile stretch, like that (Snapping his
fingers).

RD What shape were they?

W2 We thought that they looked like little jets. That's what we
assumed. Then when they got closer, they were so little, they were
smaller than a one-seated Cessna. They didn't make any noise.

DW What about shape?

W2 We co uldn't tell. All I coul d see was lights. I could tell
you that it looked like a triangle. That's what it looked like. It
just looked lik a plain triangle. We couldn't tell a tail fin or
anything like that. It looked like a triangle because it was lights
down the wings and on the tip of it.

RD You mean at the top of the triangle there was a light?

W2 Yeah. There was a light.

W1 Now see, I didn't see that. I saw just a plain light.

DW Do you know what color it w as?

W2 One was white and one was bright white...you could tell they were
definitely connected, because if the nose dropped, the tail went up
exactly. But anyhow, when the thing got closer to the water, the one
bright light started twirling like all different colors: red, green,
blue, yellow, and then it just sunk into the water and one end was
white and one end was red. Then it just sat in the water for about a
half hour and then it was gone. While it was sitting on the ice, those
planes were hovering above it. You could see tha t they were fl ashing
lights down on it. It was like five jets within maybe a quarter mile
area of each other, and all of a sudden they were just gone. They just
went up in the air and out, just out.

RD About what time did they leave like that?

W2 9:30 or a quarter to ten...

DW Did you talk with the Coast Guard guys?

W2 Yeah, we sat and talked to them for a half hour. We watched the
thing for an hour.

DW What were they saying?

W2 They couldn't believe it . They said they never saw nothing l ike it
in the world. The guy said he's been in the service for years and he
said he knows that a Harrier jet can't take off and fly that fast from a
start. This thing got up so high in the air and was gone so fast, it
was seconds and it was gone out of view. The night was so clear that we
could see for miles and miles and miles...These two guys were so scared.
They thought, first our assumption was it was a satellite, maybe from
Canada, that went bad and it was coming down over the lake. They told me
th at they believed it was Canadian air maneuvers. But then when they
saw these planes, they came about five miles off shore and they were
going about fifty feet above the ice. You could just see the ice and
stuff rippling behind them. They got nervous because they didn't want
their truck to be seen...they were afraid maybe a missle would be shot
at them or something.

RD Is there any confusion in your mind that it was maybe the moon or
the stars...?

W2 No. No, not the first night. T he second night it was much, much
much higher in the air. Miles and miles. But the second night, it
appeared at the same time and dropped down in the lake at the same
time...But the first night, no way. We went and saw that thing. That
thing was no more than three miles in the air.

RD You're aware that the newspaper accouunts are that it was the
planets?

W2 Planets, right. No that's BULL****, because I went and stood out
on the lake and looked up at them and I saw the thi ng moving. You
could see it pivo ting like this (gesturing in a rocking motion like a
teeter-totter). When it got way out over the lake, that thing just
started spinning around, it was all different kinds of lights...
The interview continued and more sketches were made by W1. In being
asked to draw the small objects, she drew a triangle.

RD When it landed on the ice, did it seem like it went under the
surface of the water, or did it rest on the ice for a period of time.

W1 I don't know. Sue saw it too from her back yar d. You could see it
sit down though. It didn't look like it sunk. We went down the next
day to see if we could see anything. All you could see was ice broken
everywhere. Huge, huge chunks of ice...

DW Which Coast Guard Station?

W2 & W1 Fairport Harbor.

DW Did they come up, did they drive up? That's quite a way down
isn't it?

W2 They drove this way. They said they could see the lights from
their Coast Guard station.

W1 Right. They were watching it and observing it f rom the Coast
Guard station itself and didn't know what to make out of the little
lights.

DW Did they tell you why they decided to come up here?

W2 Yeah, because they got so many calls that they wanted to come and
investigate it. They had even called us back a few times that night.

W1 They said it was totally out of their league. They didn't know
what it was or what it could be. They didn't want to speculate. They
also said to us, even on the next day, that the Army and I guess, NASA
did not want them to investigate any further. They did not want them to
go out on the ice, because they have a cutter. They could have gone out
to see where it landed, because their men made a report too. Somewhere
along the line...and they could not get an answer from NASA, they
couldn't get an answer from anybody. And they were told NOT to do
anything about it, that it was out of their league, it was


RD They were told it was out of their league?

W1 Uh- huh.

RD That' a quote?

W1 Yes. It was ou t of their league and out of their hands. That's
exactly what they told us. I talked to...a person in command there and
he got on the phone with me and that's exactly what he told me also.
That they had to forward all their information to Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base and a place in Detroit, which I don't know where in Detroit
they were going to send something, but they said the were NOT ALLOWED to
investigate it any further, that that's what they we re told and to stay
out of it...I wrote down their nam es because I was so upset that they
called the police on me.

DW Did they ever tell you not to talk about it?

W1 They told me that it was just more or less, that it was out of their
league and no one would, more or less, believe me and I think that's
what they were getting at when they talked to me...I mean, they sent the
police to my house, and that was more a harrassment than anything else.
You could tell they didn't want to talk about it either, because I
called them back th e next day and they were real snotty to me on the
phone.

Investigation forms were then completed, and the photograph taken
on the same night in a location several miles to the southeast was shown
to the witnesses. They confirmed that the triangular object shown in
the photograph was identical to the triangular objects they had observed
on the same night. Clearly, these witnesses, the Coast Guard, other
independent witnesses who have been interviewed, and the photographic e
vidence all confirm that the Venus/Jupi ter hypothesis offered by the
skeptical "experts" as the ultimate solution to this case has no merit
or validity. The responses of these experts are invited.


UDATE TO N.E. OHIO UFO FLAP: On Saturday, April 2, 1988 at about 3:15 P.M., Eastern Time

flat black helicopter was reported to fly at tree-top level over the N.E. Ohio home of one of the witnesses whose prior sighting has been filed with MUFON by Dale B. Wedge an
d Rick Dell'Aquila, and recounted on Paranet (see LAKERIEn.UFO). The helicopter was observed by at t 5 individuals from three separate residences in the neighborhood, and was in sight for 2-3 minutes. The unmarked and unlit helicr had a military appearance as it ap
proached slowly from the west, making a loud sound peculiarly similar to that made by a small airplaather than a helicopter. The appare
ntly windowless craft was observed to fly eastward, before turning to the south and disappearing oveline of trees. It apparently caused
"snow" on a television screen. The investigation of the continuing series of UFO events in this arontinues and updates will be provide
d to MUFON and Paranet as they become available. --Rick Dell'Aquila

reply to post by UFOHunter2012


UFOHunter, great interview mate and thanks for posting the entire transcript - I particularly liked this bit:

RD Is there any question in your mind that what you were looking at was something that you should have recognized, like the planets or...?

W1 No. It was definitely a ship, because you could see that there
was a center of it. You could also see planes coming out of it, or
little vehicles or whatever they are that came out of it and we saw them
go back in it. We were almost right directly underneath it...The more
we stayed down at the beach, it was turning toward us to come toward us
and I got scared, thinking well, maybe someone would come out or get us
or something will happen...If we could see it, I knew it could see us,
because we were right out in the open on flat land looking at it...

Cheers.

Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by UFOHunter2012

 

UFOHunter, great interview mate and thanks for posting the entire transcript - I particularly liked this bit:

RD Is there any question in your mind that what you were looking at was something that you should have recognized, like the planets or...?

W1 No. It was definitely a ship, because you could see that there
was a center of it. You could also see planes coming out of it, or
little vehicles or whatever they are that came out of it and we saw them
go back in it. We were almost right directly underneath it...The more
we stayed down at the beach, it was turning toward us to come toward us
and I got scared, thinking well, maybe someone would come out or get us
or something will happen...If we could see it, I knew it could see us,
because we were right out in the open on flat land looking at it...

Cheers.

edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12 because: (no reason given)

You are welcome and I am glad you enjoyed it as much as myself. I wonder why that interview is not more well known.

Here is some more recent news regarding these Lake Erie Sightings.


Lake Erie UFO's are not a hoax as it turns out! Lake Erie story has also been recently featured on Mexico's equivalent of 20/20 by internationally known Jaime Maussan ... If there is no translation, watch the clip on youtube and press "CC" Button for an English translation.

Jaime Maussan - UFO sightings over Lake Erie Pt. I
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Jaime Maussan - UFO sightings over Lake Erie Pt. II
www.youtube.com...


There is the biggest UFO story unfolding here over Lake Erie possibly ever!

Strange lights are appearing again over the lake with the creepy name - 150 years of paranormal history?

Apparently, the“Lake Erie Lights” have returned once again, and they have locals talking. Some loudly, some in hushed tones. But some are wondering whether these recent waves of UFO sightings over the lake with the creepy name is the real thing or a hoax. If the new lights and their videos are indeed a hoax, it would be a shame for UFOlogy because Lake Erie has a long history of mind-boggling paranormal activity.

To start, the lake is named after a Native American tribe called the “Erielhonan”, meaning the people with “long tails”. They were also called the “Cat” or “Raccoon” people. What’s more, the region was a hot-bead of abolitionism leading up to the Civil War, a time when the locals on the highlands south of the city told outsiders beware of the lake’s “Wizard Lights”. Some thought they were distressed ships on fire, but daybreak revealed no wreckage, dead bodies or survivors.

One hundred and fifty years later, on a cold winter night in 1988, a Triangle UFO described as large as “the Goodyear Blimp” appeared on the lake. Stunned witnesses said at first the craft seemed to be struggling to get off a sheet of ice that was not far from the lake’s shore. As a crowd of witnesses grows, the craft sets loose a squadron of smaller, triangular-shaped craft that buzz the witnesses.

A local Coast Guard team sees the entire episode unfold right in front of their eyes, but within hours the team is apparently strong-armed into silence by military officers from Ohio’s Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. What’s more, the civilians who do see the oblong craft will soon have their homes buzzed by an alleged unmarked black helicopter.

It’s one of the best-documented UFO cases in the history of the US. Twenty years later, one of the Coast Guard personnel there that night is still not sure what he saw – or is he?

Since 2004, CUP, the Cleveland Ufology Project, has documented 40 sightings from northeast Ohio and from the miles of Lake Erie beaches. CUP was founded in 1952 and, fittingly, is one of the oldest UFO-spotting groups in the country, if not the planet. The latest wave of Lake Erie Lights took place at the beginning of 2010.

Here is the video...
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A witness saw a triangular-shaped craft with amber lights vanish over the lake. Then for ten nights in a row, witnesses said a mysterious light began appearing over Lake Erie near Cleveland – showing up at around 7:30 pm and zipping around in the darkness for about two hours before disappearing. MSNBC covered the fresh wave, even going live to Cleveland for witness interviews.

Here is the MSNBC Story
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The UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, continues now for the ninth day in a row, as reported by MSNBC reporter David Schuster.

With the news spreading on this consistent sighting over more than one week, people are apparently camping out along the banks of Lake Erie to watch.

The UFO is a single ball of light in the night sky that is showing movement and witnesses at the scene say that the object is changing color.

Schuster interviewed British Ufologist Nick Pope for this report, who agrees that the sighting is very unusual. Schuster contacted both the FAA and the military, and cannot find a manmade explanation for this sighting.

Pope says that further investigation must be done to rule out other natural or mannade explanations.

Friday night on The Alien Agenda radio, both Eugene Erlikh and Michael Lee Hill were featured on the show. Both had filmed unknown multicolored orb/craft over Lake Erie and coincidentally live within 5 minutes of each other in Cleveland. Michael's videos go further back to 2006 and Eugene's are more recent.

On April 6, 2010 Michael and Eugene unknowingly and simultaneously filmed similar multicolored orb/craft on the same night and at the same time or within minutes of each other. Both videographers made this discovery just yesterday as well.

According to Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology!

"In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft.As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience.MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator

“It’s a hot spot,” declares local Ufologist Aaron Clark about the beaches of Lake Erie near Cleveland. “Some believe there’s a UFO base on the bottom of the lake.” One thing is certain, the Lake Erie UFO hype is real: Literally millions have viewed Internet videos of Lake Erie UFOs.

The Cleveland Office of Homeland Security has, to an unknown degree, investigated the sightings and perhaps and probably continues to do so. In 2007, an “orb” was videotaped over the Key Bank Tower during a peace rally, and the incident made it on the CBS nightly news.

CBS Nightly News Video...
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11-11-2010 UPDATE!
Daylight Orbs Of Light & Chemtrails over Lake Erie footage 11-11-2010
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
This is the incident I've been referring to, turns out it was a hoax incident involving airport lights;

"Eastlake Man Defends UFO Video"
www.ufocasebook.com...

On ATS:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It originally aired on Fox News, which is probably where I saw it.

Sorry for the distraction!

Looks to me that it was not a hoax after all?

Thanks for keeping this thread going. As a Cleveland local, I have heard the stories for years and have taken my share of double takes while out on the lake. I used to sail out of a marina in Euclid several moons ago so it is always fun to read up on these ongoing sightings.

Originally posted by UFOHunter2012
One hundred and fifty years later, on a cold winter night in 1988, a Triangle UFO described as large as “the Goodyear Blimp” appeared on the lake. Stunned witnesses said at first the craft seemed to be struggling to get off a sheet of ice that was not far from the lake’s shore. As a crowd of witnesses grows, the craft sets loose a squadron of smaller, triangular-shaped craft that buzz the witnesses.

A local Coast Guard team sees the entire episode unfold right in front of their eyes, but within hours the team is apparently strong-armed into silence by military officers from Ohio’s Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. What’s more, the civilians who do see the oblong craft will soon have their homes buzzed by an alleged unmarked black helicopter.

It’s one of the best-documented UFO cases in the history of the US. Twenty years later, one of the Coast Guard personnel there that night is still not sure what he saw – or is he?

UFOHunter2012, alas the video clips are no longer active but thanks for the links -would certainly like to hear more about allegations of the U.S. Coastguard team being strong-armed into silence by military officers from Wright Patterson AFB so please post if you have any more info.
Cheers.

Article about the case ´1988 Eastlake Case Revisited´ going into more detail about witness testimony and object description:

1988 Eastlake Case Revisited Uploaded with permission of Christopher Evans of the Cleveland Plain Dealer on an article entitle "Space Case - The Night The Coast Guard Got Buzzed,"

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