So If 9-11 was a inside job why did they do it?

Zeus!! I want to read your posts. Please, take more time in them or edit the typos. This is very serious material/information and I'm sure you would agree.

I'm not meaning to sound like D-bag, I am seriously interested in your point of view.

As per why? I am not totally certain yet, but I'll add Afghan Poppys to the previously listed things.

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Originally posted by sticky
Zeus!! I want to read your posts. Please, take more time in them or edit the typos. This is very serious material/information and I'm sure you would agree.

I'm not meaning to sound like D-bag, I am seriously interested in your point of view.

As per why? I am not totally certain yet, but I'll add Afghan Poppys to the previously listed things.

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Your really right it is important to everyone to know some of what I went through since it is ow n the news ......and learn from my mistakes not to make them yourself. apologise for the typos the MRSA makes my hands and joints hurt so they are not as nimble. Also the sinus part makes me really tried and forgetful.. So that said had hoped to find someone on here to help me RIGHT write the book talked about by terry ahlberg and chertoffs cousin(head of specal warfares wife ) I guess I assumed wrongly that if it was reopened and the horse stable CIA connection came out I could get a break so I could live and have a wife someday. should have known not to hope anymore by now but I try!!!

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Originally posted by mosesgunner
uhh yeah i read that story when it broke. Any point you plan to make with this?

Does OP have a ranch in the middle east?

I'm not buying the idea that the CIA needs the aid of an Oregon rancher.

[edit on 6-1-2010 by mosesgunner]

The OP does not have a ranch in the middle east. The OP was one of the best Arabian Reining horse trainers ever and almost went to work for a guy with a ranch in the middle east.. the king of Dubai his wife is in charge of making Reinng horses a new Olympic sport.. the OP before the foreign guys set up by his rivals selling his system that before HE used to train over 50 world and national title horses but now ya the CIA has o use for ME cause they used me threw me away. I am one of the only parts of AMERICAN heritage you can be proud of the cowboy!! and one of the top 5 horesemen on the planet.. but dont worry wont get anything but dead cause the people who set up mr anderson there life's are more important than any CIA rendition base that might know of.... ya i am confuse also.

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9 is evil? 11 is sacrifice? I don't know. 13 is more interesting. How about the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat? No militant Muslim would think that flying planes into towers would get them anywhere militarily but into a boiling kettle. How is 9/11 a Muslim plot? How is the assassination of Sadat a Muslim plot? They are both pointing to Muslim patsies that is for sure. You call it an inside job.

I think 9/11 is part of a larger plan to place U.S. troops into the Middle East to control that area. And THAT is precisely why Leftists and Liberal Media types are always unhappy about U.S. military movements in the Middle East. America is the new neighbor that is not wanted in that area, but nobody can do anything about it.

from Sadat assassination to 9/11...

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This country was divided 50/50 after the Bush / Gore election. People were at each other's throats over the outcome of the election. This nation had not been this divided since the civil war.

I read of people who had been lifelong friends who suddenly terminated friendships because of the vote; people who could no longer work in their office because everyone else had voted for the opposing party. People took this election very personally.

It seemed to me like 911 was contrived to unify the country; bring people back together to unite them for a common cause. An envisible enemy----terrorism!


It was the shock factor that worked. It was like everything previously on their minds was totally erased. After 911, no one ever heard another word about the gore/ bush controversy or election. People up in arms the day before, still talking about the recount and dangling chads, were suddenly zombiefied.


911 was a psychops. The shock value of it allowed people to be manipulted in a lot of ways. It was a distraction that was well implemented.

During the next couple of months, the Argentine economy collapsed. No one in the US even realized it. It was not reported; no one came to their aid. The US was too busy licking their own wounds. Nobody looked to see what was going on elsewhere in the world. Our eyes were only in our own back yard.

What happened in Argentina appears to have been a dry run for what is about to happen here. I think many times battle plans have been enacted on smaller scale in diverse areas in order to work out any kinks and details before being implemented in the most sophisticated countries.

I believe 911 was planned well in advance. I do not believe in happenstance. Someone (or group) higher up is orchestrating.

In my opinion the attacks, whether domestic or foreign, were just the excuse the feds needed to tighten up global and domestic control in every aspect of the word. Control the oil, control the media, control your allies ("You're either with us or you're with the terrorists"), control the profits, control imports, exports borders, control the movements of US citizens, control the constitution via the Patriot act, control information, cell phones, wire taps, no longer are you innocent until proven guilty, the list goes on and on and on. Control, power and greed there are your reasons why.

Really brilliant, this war on terror when you think of it. Take the blame off any one nation or country and make an enemy of a virtual concept. Make it a cross border war. Where ever there are terrorists there is an open ongoing declaration of war. Your enemy is some hypothetical bad guy hiding around every corner down any street. Continue to to fear monger with terror alerts, keep the nation distracted and in a state of anxiety and on edge; and slowly whittle away rights under the guise of a safer nation, all while the fat cats are getting rich.
While we lose our privacy, basic civil rights and many freedoms

As a side note,

I once read or heard that the world trade centers were sold a couple weeks or months before the attacks. Can anyone validate this?

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Great points you people are coming up with some very good points!!!

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VERY GOOD POINTS!

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O.K.
I do not think that this is a theory however I believe that 9/11 was a mega-ritual to open the gate to start the new secular order. (NWO). The people who perpetrated this event are devout Satanists. Now I refuse to get into a religious discussion, because first of all, I am not a hardcore Christian but I do believe in God. My atheist brothers I do not wish to offend but this is my belief and here are some facts about the occult who worship Satan. If you research the meaning of the the Two Towers you will find that in occult symbolism these towers represent the Temple of Solomon, which is a significant part of Satanic worship and rituals. Believe it or not the ones who call themselves Jewish, Christian, and yes even Islam on television, practice spiritual contact with other beings. This is all well and good, because yes I go ghost hunting and all. I believe in the supernatural but I believe that the spirits who claim to be deceased humans are actually fallen angels, trying to deceive us into believing that they are gods, when there is in fact only one God. Back to 9/11. They needed to do this to invoke fear and paranoia into the populace to create phony wars. Coincidentally these wars are in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq being the "New Babylon." To those that do not believe in God you do not have to because that is your choice. But for your own good look into the Satanic rituals that symbolize 9/11. Ask yourselves why George Bush was reading that book at the school upside down (Satanic Symbolism) on the day of 9/11. And why the book pertained to the goat man Pan, which is also a figure of Satanic worship. I am not making this up, it is all around us in plain sight to see. The children at the school are seen chanting about this goat man Pan, saying feed him or eat him. (Something like that.) Check it out for yourselves. Deny Ignorance for once, do not just jump to conclusions about whatever happened on 9/11. The N.W.O's final plans began on September 11. Look into the meaning of 9/11 there is a reason why it was perpetrated on this day as well. Now after saying this I may catch some flak or even death threats, but let it be known that what I am telling you has relevance to Satanism, the ones at the top do not care what you believe if they did this never would have happened. Look into the Bloodlines of our past Presidents. Barak Obama is related to Dick Cheney, G.H.W.B., G.W.B., Ford, etc... do your research. By the way, I have come to the conclusion that the C.I.A. is on A.T.S. so whatever information they have from you now, they will use against you and I later. Whatever you thought you knew about 9/11 is not all there is to see. Go to You Tube, check out the Labyrinth of Truth. Watch all of them. It is important. I will warn you now about it, whoever created this uses excerpts from the bible and such. He seems to be a devout Christian, but he still uses factual evidence to support his claims. There is only one thing left to do about this and it is to unite good against evil. We all know (the ones who are not trolls and paid government agents) that whoever perpetrated this event and the events that are yet to come are evil. So why not try and understand what this one guy has to say. The real truth speakers are dead. (MLK, Malcolm X, Bill Cooper, John Lennon, J.F.K.) These are all people who fought and died for peace and unity. All I am trying to do is unite all the ones on A.T.S. who have different opinions about 9/11. Again the ones who did this are evil and the plans for our future are evil as well. One more thing, I have seen my share of supernatural occurrences. (Spirits U.F.O.'s) Ask yourself; if these beings are letting individuals know why can they not let the whole world know? There is something evil behind them too. Before I get attacked, think logically about these things I have presented.

I did not wish to use more than one post to reply but there is a lot to know and comprehend. I just read another reply that one member asked why those buildings were chosen to be hit. I already mentioned the Two Towers being a symbol of Solomons Temple, but the Pentagon? Look at the Pentagon. What is that shape? More specifically the inside of what shape? Try the Pentagram. The Satanic star. I am telling you these people are sick. Look at Bohemian Grove, where Bill Clinton and the like attended. Sacrificial rituals? Come on, how much more evidence does one need? These people worship the devil and can you explain why there were multiple demon head shaped clouds on that day? Not a coincidence. Maybe 1 of the clouds would be but I heard 3? Wow...!!!!! As I explained in the previous post look at the bloodlines. Guess; who is Barbara Bush's father? None other than Aleister Crowley, the man who created the O.T.O. or Luciferian Order. Do not be fooled. Barbara's mother had sexual relations with this man. Look into it. Do you think they would actually put that in Wikipedia? Please... Wiki is not a reliable source of information. Now, look into what is in the Middle East and why they are trying to secure it for Israel. Look into the significance of the Al Aqsa mosque. Not the Temple of the Rock which the MSM shows to be the Al Aqsa mosque. One more thing, Why are we always supporting Israel? Look at the "Star of David" It is two triangles one pointing up and one pointing down. Look into that as well. This symbol is also a Satanic symbol. These Satanist's will stop at nothing to bring the Antichrist back. Sorry my Atheist brothers but there is something of great importance with these meanings. Trust me I hold no grudge against those who do not believe, however there must be a reason as to why these people choose to worship Satan. They lust for worldly power and control. How do you think they got to that position of power in the first place? Not by free elections. Yeah right. Look into the pop culture of today.. Jay-Z... always shown with the "Triangle over one eye." Satanic Worship right there. Madonna, Brittany, Lady Gaga, aren't these all of the popular (morons in my opinion) celebrities of our day? Look into Madonna she is related to George Bush. They are all Satanists my friends. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. (Yes I heard that from the Labyrinth of Truth.) Trust me check it out. I am not affiliated with the man who did this but, if you look into these things, he brings out more information as to why 9/11 and our pop culture society is run by Satanist deceivers. Just look into it, what do you have to lose besides time that we are already losing?

Originally posted by zeuseadam
...and did not say 9-11 was a inside job just asked if it was why.. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist it s my treatment that says inside job and that andy has no trouble and and and.. but No one told me it was because of this just a strange statement that more could be read into but that s not a fact so again sorry i sai the guy aid something that could be taken another way.. cause I still hope 9-11 was not a inside job. i still hope they would need me to testify against someone and they would catch someone from the al qaeda message the days are pregnant. But again all the planes being attacked..hm..uh..terror exercises.. are from suspect airports and very suspect locations n the world that also could have a completely other explanation that would say not false flag.. so YA f someone asked me the right questions and knew some of the parts i don't they just maybe could be vindicated n front of the whole world but that is not for me am a conspiracy theorist hard now and have earned t.. they beat me at the place of my families choked me down then fought back... drilled my teeth out fractured my sternum gave me a disease to spread for all I know and a lot worse you can say i have been beaten into being a conspiracy theorist...

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Wow, you really hate the ideas of spellcheckers and grammar checkers, don't you? You sir, lack common courtesy. Normally spelling and grammar are not an issue but your grammar is so bad I can't even read half of what you write. Maybe someone you know does know how to read and write... ask them for help learning grammar so you can say things that people will understand on ATS.

I'm I'm putting up with you and reading through however because there is an important point. People (besides you) sometimes really do learn sensitive information that in theory really could get them killed for revealing it. However, the proper thing to do in that circumstance is to go public with the information. After they've gone public, if they were then either attacked or thrown in the nuthouse, it would only add credibility to what they were saying. That is especially true if they state that they were threatened with being thrown in a nuthouse for revealing it!

They need to make it a point to reveal everything it is they know. Then, any enemies they have would no longer have incentive to harm them. Therefore, if someone has such sensitive information the best way to save their own life would be to reveal everything they know and then note that their life is now being threatened by those who wish the information to be kept secret.

And again, even if 9/11 was done because outer space aliens wanted to control Bob Barker for a comedy skit they (the aliens) are working on, there is no reason why anyone couldn't state that on ATS, or even better, go public with that information. If it was really true then the person revealing the info would no longer be under threat and be in no danger of a nuthouse.

Nuthouses are only for people who may harm them selves or others. Simply stating ridiculous ideas therefore will never land anyone in a nuthouse. Therefore, someone who has sensitive 9/11 related information and fails to reveal it to the public is a terrible person regardless of how crazy it may sound. Just sounding crazy isn't enough to be thrown in a nuthouse. You have to actually be harming someone or threatening someone to be thrown in a nuthouse! Do you understand that?

Please only reply if you have used a spell checker or consulted someone who knows how to write sentences, otherwise the conversation will likely be over with your reply.

911 had many obvious reasons which have been listed, but I also believe that those that perpetrated 911 did so in such a numerological and ritualistic manner because they wanted to do many things at once. Most of all, they wanted to sacrifice thousands of innocent unsuspecting human souls to appease Lucifer as a means of achieving their evil agenda. Having appeased the demons, we have seen no one or any factual evidence become sufficient enough or factual enough to get the government to reopen the investigation and get to the bottom of the anomalies that many have researched and or those that have produced facts that the media and or the government wont address or even admit exist.

No matter the many reasons, the highest reason was to sacrifice innocent lives as a means of asking for some magical or supernatural ability to conceal, profit or alter the face of our society with the horrific images that to this day still shock and horrify those who review evidence from that fateful day.

Starting to get a lot of diversity in the post ........I think there are many people who see this and do not post but go ahead i like looking at things from all angles> The old American way..

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Ill try!!! My fingers don't work as good when the MRSA is bad sorry it affects my mind as far as memory and am always tired so again I am sorry. But you made a lot of really good points and very good logic and reasoning. I had not seen what you had posted online before but you are very right. If someone wants you to shut up and die the opposite is shout and maybe you live a while even though I do not call my life living by any stretch of the imagination.

sorry wrong thread.

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A funny video that touches a few reasons for 9/11



My opinion to why 9/11 happened. (which isnt much different from the video.)

Strip constitutional rights VIA the Patriot ACT.

give the USA a reason to go to war and to fuel the military industrial complex. profits profits, profits!

it was all about, MONEY, and OIL! Not to mention to speed up the NWO.

wrong thread sorry.

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Zeus, has anyone from ATS contacted you about writing your book?

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