Can we really do "this" any longer?

Originally posted by Blaine91555
...When you meet your Soulmate, build a home and hold your child in your arms; it will all be clear. Until they become Teenagers and then you might have second thoughts for a moment, but only a moment.

Very, very true! I'll just add, hold that child a lot! Except when they are teenagers, when you want to hold them by the neck! Luckily, those difficult years are few and quickly forgotten, when they flee the nest!

can any of you who did consciously lived in the previous realize that we are passing the first decade, 10% of the current century? I can recall that in the 90s everyone had these issues about 99, Y2K etc etc etc etc etc etc, too many to call, 2012 is pin-pointed as an important day because someone linked it to a calender of a race who could not even see there own ending coming, think about it, if the Mayans were still flourishing, maybe their calender would have been MUCH longer than the current out-dated version. But no worries, even after this non-event of 2012, people will have new targets to look forward to either it be 2015, 2018, 2020 and so on......

reply to post by TheOneElectric


You are a very mature 19 year old. I admire you.

I have been stuck in this "work and life sucks, but doom is coming to save me any day now" rut for a while, and have recently climbed out. It is not a productive way of life.

I decided to just do everything I possibly could. My life is going pretty darn well now. Doom may come, and if it does I am ready.

2012 in my opinion is just another arbitrary doom date that will probably fizzle. Doom is very possible, don't get me wrong. There are any number of possible scenarios. Econodoom, galactodoom, quakedoom, pole shiftial doom, new ice age doom, nuclear war doom, bio attack doom..... ect ect ect to infinity. I am no longer worried. I have prepared for any possible doom as well as humanly possible. I can survive forever in the woods with nothing. So if I lose every single thing I own, I will still be ok. I have the knowledge to survive.

My advice is to find something that you enjoy, and do the best you can at it. Find a good mate, and raise a family. Instill morals and values in them, and teach them your knowledge. Never stop seeking wisdom. Always be ready for the most insane situation you can imagine.

Slavery is what it is. Slave to your trinkets and do~dads. A conversation that sticks in my brain is one of George Green's. I am going to try to repeat to the best of my feeble memory.

A wealthy American businessman went on a fishing trip in a small coastal town in Mexico to escape the madness and clear his mind. He found a charter and went out on his trip. The captain of the boat was a simple man to the business mans perspective, not a materialistic man, but seemed to know exactly where the fish were.

He asked the man at one point, what was a day in the life of this captains life like? The guide answered, well I sleep as long as I want. I get up and do a little fishing, come home have some lunch and a siesta with my wife. Later I walk to town and have some dinner and good conversation with my amigo's. Then I come home to my wife and do it again the next day.

The business man was so pleased with the amount of fish they were catching, he had an idea of a business plan for the man. He told him you know you could take your earnings and buy another boat, hire another captain and double your business, then buy two more and so on and so on. Before long you could build an empire fishing fleet. Then you would have everything you want and retire. The Captain asked how long would something like that take? The business man said, about 15 - 20 years. The captain then asked, then what would I do in my retirement.

The business man said, well then you could sleep as long as you want, go fishing, come home and have a siesta with you wife. Then you could go to town and have some dinner and good conversation with friends and do it again the next day. OHHHHHHH!

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Live life day to day. Do what truly makes you happy. Do~dads and trinkets are not the answer.

reply to post by TheOneElectric

So I ask you:
What do you see occurring in 2012? Be honest. Tell me what you believe may happen, and tell me what you want to happen. Be honest, this is a friendly area. All answers are welcome.

my opinion:

i think the sun will affect the earth's weather. we will see extremes from week to week. snow this week and 60 degrees and cloudy the next. the patterns the weather currently follows will not be the same. highest risk wont be to humans but to animals that come out when the temperature reaches 60 degrees and then freeze to death the next week. tides will rise and fall with greater gap between them.


i believe solar flares affect the earth's weather and tides more than the moon does.

-subfab

Originally posted by Namaste

Originally posted by TeddiRevolution

"You are young, we all felt like that but eventually you grow up."

growing up occurs when the conditioning finally sticks and you're willing to conform. It equates to the domestication of a wild animal. You grow up when you've finally become tame.

What a nice quote!
Congrats

reply to post by yiersan

can any of you who did consciously lived in the previous realize that we are passing the first decade, 10% of the current century? I can recall that in the 90s everyone had these issues about 99, Y2K etc etc etc etc etc etc, too many to call, 2012 is pin-pointed as an important day because someone linked it to a calender of a race who could not even see there own ending coming, think about it, if the Mayans were still flourishing, maybe their calender would have been MUCH longer than the current out-dated version. But no worries, even after this non-event of 2012, people will have new targets to look forward to either it be 2015, 2018, 2020 and so on......

2020 will be the year we have perfect vision.
ha ha ha

i just couldn't resist it.

-subfab

Anxieties are common to everyone and everyage since mankind began. We see the sunrise and the sunset and yearn for control of the in between, but it is not to be, for we control nothing except our own future, and even that, it needs compromises with others and most important of all - adaptability daily to changes which is the only constant beside death.

Work may seem to be slavery, but it occupies our minds for productive efforts towards progress and evolution, and at the same time it gives renumeration to subsist and live, for some are city folks and not farmers.

With that renumeration and free time when avaliable, we use it to cultivate further our minds and emotions through our hobbies and interaction with others, to reinforce our beliefs/meaning in life or learn new things shared with others.

Everyday is a day of wonder and learning, of sorrows, pain but comes with joys as well. What that will happen will come to pass, which at times is even beyond our collective control, but rather than to spend time being worried, that time could have been better used to live and share life with others.

Our precious memories are made of these when our last moment on Earth occurs, a last moment that is often beyond our control. Go with a smile, for death is only but another journey. Lay your anxieties and worries to rest....

[edit on 6-1-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]

This post was just beautiful because it really describes me pretty well. I'm 18 and can't see how I could ever work a mind numbing 9-5 job. I recently quit my graveyard shift - grocery shelve stocking -kick in the balls job. Absolutely physically and emotionally numbing. I felt 60 years old ( no offense :] )and not the young, healthy, energetic 18 year old that I am. It was work, eat, sleep. The days turned into weeks and it all became a blur.

After working this one particular job, not the one mentioned above, I decided to join the Navy because I felt "tamed". But I ended up turning down the diving contract because I didn't want to rely upon the government for my food and shelter etc. and many other reasons.

So what am I doing now? I have about $2500 to my name and a $250 child support check every month until I turn 19 in May. Right now I'm making a little money on online poker. I've got a couple of buddies that graduate highschool this summer and we plan on going to Canada. Maybe some of you have heard of smoke jumping? I figure jumping out of airplanes to fight fires sounds pretty fun.

My achilles heel has been wondering what I'm going to do with the rest of my life. I can see past the mind controlling mechanisms of religion, the obsession with materialistic items, labels, and everything else that seems to divide us. I mean, in my mind I picture such a more amazing human experience and a world where not one person has to starve or be homeless.

wow. Didn't realized I typed this much. Sorry for the long post. lol

I agree with your statement, for years i have know that something will happen within my lifetime that will change the world. However starting last year i got the sense that it gonna happen soon. As much as i would like to say it is going happen peacefully, i have a feeling it not going to be at all. No clue what coming but from what ive been seeing here on ats and in the news it gonna most likely be WWIII. Dont care what u think of this idea but somehow nations need to get more resources and profits fast or they will collapse. and a nation collapsing is never peaceful.

Dont believe the whole mayan calender thing hard to beleive someone that long ago knew when the world was gonna end, my idea is he got tired of writing the calender and just stopped.

He's been hitting the hopium.

Oh well, pass it around I could use a little myself. All I see for 2012 is that we'll be between six months and a year into our civil war and deep do do for as far as the eye can see.

Remember where you lay the pipe kid we'll be needing it again.

I used to be in the same shoes as many of the "youngsters" talking about being dissatisfied with the world, not knowing what to do.

The only thing I can say that has changed is my attitude towards the separation between the world and I.

Be the world you want to live in. Be the kind of person you want to meet, do the kinds of things you think other people should do, help people the way you wish people helped you. You will find a lot of personal growth by doing it and will feel like you've done something instead of slaving every day at a job you don't care about.

At least get a job you enjoy doing, and feel good about doing. Don't work at a bank if you're upset about the money scams, don't work for the military if you don't agree with the wars. At some point others will notice your example and it will cause them to think, "hey, why can't I live like that..." And that is how you start changing the world.

I agree. I'm 17 and I just can't see myself working and sleeping, working and sleeping; it's just not how I want to live. There's got to be a better way. I do not know what's going to happen, but I'm damn assured to embrace what happens, if it happens for the better

First i hafe to say i totoly agrea and i think more and more pepole are waking up to the hot coffe.

Now fore what i think is gona happen.
I see a humanety rip itself of this materialistic hunger fore more.
I see us waking up to the REALE realety
(actuly i experiencet my WERY SCEPTIC friend fore the first time say that it maye be soem truth in all this "crazy" things and this is the saem dude that almost started a fight whit me becuse he meant it wase all BS)
I see the inlightenment og the humanety and comeback of the pure Consciousness.The fall og hiracy.
I see openes and a dircet link to the unievrse and its coletctiv Consciousness...
I see pepole geting to know the truth of it all frome A - Z the new age hase begune.


The 2012 alignment has started and more, and more pepole can feal it.
I have felt it as long as i can remeber and its a privlige to be alive fore this transformation of astronomic size.

I probeboly sound like a nute job just about now but if i just shut up my friends and family whode stile be totoly in the dark. So I say to hell whit it I WILL NOT BE SILENCED.

Thanks hope it wase somthing in this ally you where locking fore.
And sorry fore my bad spelling.

I`am 22 btw

[edit on 6-1-2010 by Norwegian88]

reply to post by Strategy


Fair warning.. if you have been around ATS long enough, you may remember October 14th of 2008. Blossom Goodchild was sending out messages regarding the Galactic Federation of Light. It left a bitter taste in peoples' mouths. I would refrain from posting info on the GFL.

Here's a link to the thread that was very popular.
Blossom Goodchild: GFL

To the OP, I apologize and in no way mean to derail your thread.

The one thing you have to keep in mind. The daily grind is what is required to get by in this world. Whether it be a 9-5 job, or a 3-11, or a 7p-7a. We all have to make a living. Mkae it something you really enjoy.

What you call unecessary, is it? Really? You have been given what by your parents? Got a television? A stereo? An IPod? Do you have a car? Auto insurance? Some nice shoes and clothes?

Just who do you expect to pay your way through this life? You have to take responsibility at some point, and the whole idea behind the better education is to earn the higher pay so hopefully you can break the chains a bit earlier and retire young, wealthy, and successful.

This is life, welcome to it. If you choose to participate ane become a contributing member, well good on you. However, I see a lot of the new generation speaking as you are, needing to "find their way", and it reminds me of the 60's and 70's hippies. Most of them did go on to shave and clean up and get a job. For those that it wasn't too late for.

Regardless of how you feel about government, politics, conspiracies, this is the world we live in, and it is not really a socialist world. No one wants to work and pay your way for you, even if the government may grant that. A real man would stand up and say they wish to pull their own weight, and forge their own way in this world.

The only bit of advice that I can offer you is a simple one. Work to live, do not live to work. If you keep that in mind, then after you perform the duties required and expected of you, you can find the time and money to do things that you enjoy and find pleasing. Use your job and income to benefit yourself, and if it isn't enough, then you only have yourself to blame for having been another of the "left behind".

I know my view isn't going to be the most popular, but then, we cannot choose to only get the answers we want in life. Sometimes, the answer is the one you don't like, but the truth nonetheless.

Above all, and I ask this in the most sincere manner possible, what make you think that you above anyone else, should not have to do the same thing we all do? Just who is it that you would consign to work to pay your way through this life, and how will it benefit them? Why are you so special that you are outside the box?

We all have want to be different, for the world to be different from what it is, but it is what it is. We all go through stages like this, and while I too will not say "grow up", just don't find yourself left behind.

Nothing says you have to sleep through life.

I don't think anything is going to happen in 2012, other than the things we already are aware of. Economic issues, wars, and energy problems. All the more reason for you to forge your way in this life now, rather than later.

It is amazing to me how many people share the same mindset as me. I am currently 20 and feel the same way. I have seen my parents and other family members work their entire lives every single day and have nothing to show for it. Their only desires were to make sure the rest of us had food on the table and a roof over our heads. I have sit and thought about what I want to do with my life, and which direction I need to go. The answer always seems to elude me. I do not want to get caught up in a dead end job for 45 years and then look back on my life and wonder where it went. I have no desires, no goals and it just seems like I am stuck. I do not know what will happen in the coming years, but it seems that things just continue to grow worse. In my mind I simply cannot make that out to be a bad thing though, as a global change is exactly the thing I am currently looking forward to.

Perhaps we won't have to wait long for answers to come our way. Perhaps some of us do need to 'grow up'. It just feels to me like people are missing out on their lives, and they don't even know it until it is too late.

I am just glad I am not the only one in the boat.

I agree with OP completely. I feel that the illusion or "Maya" is stronger than ever before. People are living by the day and have stopped questioning the purpose of the whole act. Salaries, increments,promotions, loans are the driving force for people. Some people are happy with the 9-5/Sleep lifestyle because they are too immersed in "The Matrix" or the illusion. They get trapped into the debt/pay debt vicious cycle and before they realize, they spend three or four decades of their lives.

Like one poster said above, an intermittent "free moment" is essential. The frustration increases when you realize the illusion around you and yet you can't escape from it.

I would quote the movie Fight Club here ... "Our greatest war is a spiritual war, and our greatest depression is our life".

This is one of the great threads in my opinion.

reply to post by Libertygal


I agree with everything you say except...

I don't feel like I am "outside the box". I envision a world, where not just my life, but every bodies life is filled with abundance and joy.