Still think aliens are here to 'help mankind evolve'?

reply to post by Moonman1111


Most abductions are done by human governments, especially the North American governments. These abductions usually revolve around the ever-so famous "Greys".

Extraterrestrial abductions are never physical but instead either negative psychic attacks to take you off of your path and put you down, or they are of different groups who bring hope and push you every further on your journey.

Namastè.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by Psychonaughty]

Call me crazy if you want, but I've always thought it was a very bad idea send the Voyager probes out into deep space. Your sending an object out there tell of us on Earth, ect without knowing whats out there how do we know that whoever finds those probes are friend or foe? Are we suppose to take it on faith that just because they may be advanced that they mean us no harm?

no.. this topic hasnt been covered many times already. and what does this have to do with the ancient astronaught theory? all it proves really, dependant upon where on the spectrum the reader lies, is that there are more than one intellectually advanced "race" out there, OR it proves that the level of disturbance, and cunning of the criminal mind is not just relevant to intellectual ability. Even Doctors can be sick f***s. It says nothing for or against the ancient astronaught theory. Unless you are trying to prove that the "aliens" are really malevolent. If that is the case you have to say ALL MAN KIND IS GOOD. Clearly that would be a lie. Fact is, we do not know any person who has had REAL contact with adavanced alien races. We have the flakes that SAY they have had contact, but in truth, they are just attention seekers that make you and I look like complete crystal worshipping chakra horny morons. We DO NOT KNOW what these things are, what they are capable of if they are good or evil, if they acknowledge these alignments, or if they really even exist.

We will just go on saying there is no possibility that this was not done by humans. Nevermind the fact that around that same time there was a ring of sickos out there that were murdering in the same fashion to extract body fat to sell to on the black market, right there in south america, in the same area as this guy. Im not saying this is a hoax, or definitely NOT committed by aliens, I am saying look at ALL the environmental possibilities first. The south american and mexican drug cartels are amongst the sickest people on the planet. second only to the vatican (early inquisition). The English are not far behind historically. You simply cannot rule out human elements in heinous crimes such as this brutal murder. Regardless of WHAT you believe, ALiens, robots, US gov or otherwise. this is a brutal murder, and its sad when we are so bored that we attribute a human crime to alien races when we dont know 100% proof positive, they exist or not. We BELIEVE they do. Hell, we believe in a higher power, but still have little to no tangible proof. (yes I said tangible as we all have our own individual experiences which is why I will not say these aliens cannot possibly exist either). I myself will nto rule out the possibility that this murder was alien committed, but I wont rule out the possibility that humans are just as capable and sick.

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I have to chuckle.

Most here on ATS are still at,......." are UFO's and Aliens real" and your already accusing Alien's of this crime. We that experience with other life Beings are often asked (mocked many times rudely)........ where is our proof and proof is never good enough, so I ask you where is your without a doubt proof??

Sorry, there are a lot of sick people in this world.

Even with knowing there are good Beings and bad Beings.... if a bad Being did do this lets say, why would you even make a statemake like, still think Aliens are here to help mankind evolve. To me what you wrote makes it sound as if "ALL, Aliens are evil," when in fact they are trying to help mankind evolve a little swifter, they say we are evolving to slowly.

No wonder the Beings consider the Human race a stupid Species.

The picture evidences were a rather disturbing sight to behold. Whoever did this is certainly inhuman.

However, even more disturbing is the view that it was done by 'aliens'. No doubt abduction were true as testified by credible witness under intense interrogation as well as under hypnotism, there are no reports of them having their organs removed. Infact some even reported of better health than before.

Why it is disturbing is the quickness to attribute the murder to 'aliens'.

Are we fed with propaganda from Corporations once again, to be manipulated by fear of the aliens, in order to seek their protection and thus absolve them of their crimes against humanity, through their secrecy, diabolical schemes to protect such secrecy by ANY means while lining their own pockets, stumbling from one economic and military disaster after another through their incompetence and greed, at the expense of mankind?

The body was actually a willing sacrifice during "Meat Harvest", an alien holiday some light years away..

The man was mentally hi-jacked into donating his body to ET science students.

[edit on 5-1-2010 by thaknobodi]

I've got a theory. But since it was such a small theory without aliens, serial killers or anything magical to it I spent some time and made it into an image. I tried to spicey it up by adding something of the paranormal to it.

I hope you like it, if not it's cool it just helped me kill a bit of time.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/611858e31984.jpg[/atsimg]

Could've happened. Well, he maybe wasn't drawn by the 1986 flyover but the rest if fair enough.

-m0r

reply to post by Moonman1111


no, its not okay to say "im sure theres some satanists that would do this" if you knew the first thing about satanism you would know its basically forbidden to kill unless you're attacked or for food.
satanists (ones that have read even 20 pages of the satanic bible anyway) did not do this.
just so the christians will calm down.

Like humans there are 'good' and 'bad'...some are here to gain knowledge as we know but most are here to observe and help, we cant tar them all with the same brush because thats just being plain ignorant, if you want to blame someone for it then blame the government-once again-they have deals on going with a certain race of aliens for decades now,cattle mutilation and human abductions for research in exchange for technology noticed how ours has changes substanically over the years and resembles more advanced alien technology by the day! there are that many races of aliens...seriously how can we be that stupid to brand them all the same?? we have chines,blacks,indians,welsh,american,russian...where all different and masses of us have very different colours and looks to alot of us but regardless we all have different intentions and we are all unique individuals but all part of eachother still. come on guys where a clever bunch! use your noggin

reply to post by Moonman1111


I doubt this is aliens doing this. Human beings have a history of surgical precision and an even longer history of killing each other.

That being said one person's agonizing death, if it was caused by aliens, does not mean we need blanket the entire alien phenomenon as malevolent. How often do we humans dissect some "lesser" species in hopes of learning more about it? How many science lab frogs have fallen victim to the knives of squeamish students? My point is that we humans to the same things to species we've deemed below us.

Alien abduction is directly reminiscent of us tagging and releasing sharks. Anyone who's seen nature shows in which they do this knows the researchers claim its all for "saving the species" or "science" or "knowledge" or other stuff like that. Sometimes members of the species are taken and dissected as well. So if the aliens were pretty far advanced from where we are and considered themselves above us they might want to take a few specimens for dissection for the "better of the species".

So even if aliens are the ones doing this, and I highly doubt it, it doesn't make them evil.

Cattle mutilations are maggots eating the dead animal. This guy was severely electrocuted or hit by a bad lightning strike. My dad knew a guy who accidentally slipped a screw driver into a 220 socket and it blew a hole out of his backside as the lightning came out.

Another guy I know had a power line fall on him and he had holes blown in his skin like that. He lived but has since had about 20 surgery's to fix the server burns.

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wow... that was disturbing... An amazing article. Thanks. S&F'd. The fact he was alive during the mutilation is a numbing thought...

I wouldn't of believed it until I saw the pictures... Unreal...

I will have to rethink my idea about flashing a flashlight at any ufo's I happen to see... Although, this reminds of a story I read where some guy had a close encounter and the investigators told him he was lucky it was with the nice kind...

So, who was this guy? Just some homeless person, or did he cross the Area 51 border?

Did the Aliens breach their Gov't contract and decide they had enough cows and now they want humans...

scary stuff... Whomever/Whatever did this, I hope I don't end up on the table...

I'm voting for the 3rd option "... computational intelligence. Alien robots..."

PS: I wonder what the wrist band is... Any significance?

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Since there is nothing that occured in this case that is beyond Human technology why would we think its Aliens?

Afterall Man commits even more horrid atrocities against their fellow Man every day. Torture, organ havesting, take your pick.

If it were Aliens they were certainly using techniques that from my point of view should of been way below their level of technology. A simple DNA sample would of been enough to grow as many Humans to do with as you wish.

I don't think aliens did this. Why? Because they know what body parts are like, they have visted us for tens of thousands of years. All i can think of is another alien creature came and had never seen humans and wanted to grab them for testing.

All UFO's look different, maybe due to different vehicles like we have here or just different aliens from different planets with different morales.

Or maybe there are some evil aliens and good aliens, just like humans. There's no point pretending there all good and willing to help the human race.

Another point i want to say is, what if aliens can read karma of people? They may mutilate people with bad karma or people who have open fired on UFO's. We do not know specific details on the aliens visting our planet so to say aliens are evil is just aload of crap, its like saying humans are nice .

After all we only want their technology and knowledge(got to admit, it would be cool receiving extraterrestrial love ), not love from every alien, we just need some of them willing to help.





[edit on 5-1-2010 by jonnyc55]

One case does not represent how an entire race would treat human beings IF they ever presented themselves.

That's like an alien race taking heed against mankind because of the actions of one figure head like say...Adolf Hitler. Does God judge the entirety of mankind for the actions of a few??? Let's hope not, but it seems that this is exactly what you are currently doing.

Just an observation.

Sorry, I don't buy it, and, I don't fall for scare tactics such as terror alerts, MSM advisories, or anything else that uses fear as its predominant strategy.

Originally posted by Helmkat
A simple DNA sample would of been enough to grow as many Humans to do with as you wish.

Maybe that is how they got into trouble the first place... Too many copies of a copy...

But you are right, I don't think it is beyond human capability... But then why would a human leave a body (evidence) behind... Whomever does this has the means to at least incinerate or a body I'd wager...

Seems it is done with indifference to what it leaves behind... Thats why I suspect robotics or some sort... Like a fish or meat processing plant... Just waste material...

same with cattle mutilations...

[edit on 5-1-2010 by ByteChanger]

Originally posted by Moonman1111
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

But then again, I just don't see humans doing this but it cannot be ruled out.
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Still don't think humans could of done it?

[edit on 5-1-2010 by Revolution-2012]

OP, I'm sure there are some "bad" aliens out there. However, one really has to ponder the possibility also that humans might be doing these types of mutilations as well.

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You're ignorant if you don't think humans are capable of deforming other humans, it's only been PRACTICED throughout history, since the EARLIEST days.

To blame something as vile on this, on ET, is ludicrous.

IF ET WE'RE HOSTILE, WE'D ALL BE DEAD. WOULD WE NOT?

IF their science is so evolved they can travel from planet to planet, why would they even bother with a human's anatomy? They could easily tap into our computer systems, or our general knowledge, and find out everything they need to know about our anatomy.

Get it straight bud, aliens aren't hostile.



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But this shows that they tried to hide their despicable crimes.

These mutilated bodies are just left behind after wards... Like they don't care who finds them...