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Originally posted by 13arrows
so are you saying our spirits are all just in a human body purely for the experience of a physical constraint?
Originally posted by jimmyx
the problem as i see it, is that you are saying our reality is somehow different from what we now percieve with our senses...without getting into symantics...this IS the reality that we live in...if you have a different reality, we, as other people, need proof that involve the workings of OUR reality based senses. if you cannot provide any, then the movie "matrix" is just a movie.
Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
reply to post by Rockstar1102
@Rockstar - Yes the movie the Matrix is precicely a movie. It is based on the "brain in the vat" philosophy. This philosophy is derived from other historic texts such as the early Gnostics with the "Black Iron Prison" of the Demigurge and "Maya" from anchient Hinduism.
The concept that we exist in a fabricated and intelligently designed reality system, a matrix has it's roots in some of the earlies religions and philosophies far exceeding the Matrix spin where it's a computer world generated by machines.
In cognitive sciences, with leading researchers like Dr. Thomas Cambbell a physicist who has modelled out the very nature of digital reality. One can argue that we are indeed living in a Matrix system, and reality is indeed digital in nature.
It may not be the Matrix Neo lived in, but that metaphor fits in with Reality modelled and created by consciousness. I do enjoy Morpheus's speach with Neo:
"Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world? "
[edit on 5-1-2010 by YouAreDreaming]
Originally posted by daddio
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...sanchoearlyjones had several posts on this subject of just saying no, he has not been on ATS for some time after that. I have PM him and U2U'd him to no avail. He may have been taken out of the picture, I don't know. Others have also disappeared from this site, some of us have tried to make contact with them but to no avail. WTF?
There's your conspiracy.
Originally posted by DJMSN
reply to post by IandEye
Hmmm..A political action group on acid at the matrix movie. And people wonder whats wrong with American Politics. Lots of stuff but this sort of explains a lot!
Originally posted by redzi0n
I-Magi-Nation. I am a magician nation. Imagination is key to creating your reality. Whatever we can imagine we can manifest, but we need to believe. It's time to take back our power.
I think Star Wars is one of the most spiritually important films of all time, right at the end Luke teaches us a very important message about how the light can overcome the dark. In new age circles it is believed that star wars was channeled from a real event which occured in the orion costellation somewhere. Regardless there are many spiritual truths in this film.
Originally posted by Unleashed68
Originally posted by Unleashed68
I would like the answer to doing the Neo stuff. I would want to still be here to help people escape from the system, but I would need more abilities to do that. IF this is real.
Please, do tell.
If a child is born in Earth watching others fly, they will fly. The ability to fly is based on firm belief, the beiing can not achieve what it believes is impossible, yet the act of flying is nothing in comparison to creating a human body from nothingness. If you know humans can't fly, you won't, and if you KNOW humans can fly, you will. Sounds simple, but to achieve this belief requires absolute separation from the physical illusion. That is the border that prevents a human from crossing.
[edit on 3-1-2010 by Unleashed68]
Originally posted by yadda333
Originally posted by Unleashed68
The bad news is we have to become unplugged from the Earthly Matrix to get there and experience a world without the system and agents; and to unplug, literally means removing the spirit from captivity of attachment to the human body.
I think some clarification is needed.
Escape from the Matrix requires unplugging. To unplug, we must remove our spirit from our earth body.
So we have established that we must remove our spirit from our body, but how exactly do you do that? The only thing that comes to my mind is death. Meditation maybe?
I think meditation doesn't count though. I mean, we're talking about entering another existence completely.
((snip))