Imagine Reality: The Illusion of Life

reply to post by loam


I was thinking the same thing, I read his other threads and the the overall theme started to come out.

Unfortunately this is nothing new for most of us on here.

Originally posted by loam
Isn't this Sophia Stewart's idea?

And didn't James Cameron essentially say the same in Avatar?

It doesn't matter who said it first. I've had similar ideas in my own head even though I read about this for the first time and never seen Avatar or heard of Sophia Stewart

Meh, I don't want a spirit

I want super powers =D

reply to post by Bilw85

I'm sorry but after working in a mental health facility for a while, I have already heard all of this kind of garbage.

How long did you work in mental health and what did you do ?

When people hear voices/spirits speaking to them inside their heads is this an illness ?

I've only read the OP and a couple of other posts. But I have to say thank you for putting it out there.

To experience anything but the illusion, you must untangle your self from it. It takes time and patience with your self. And it takes the strength to believe in things that you cannot see right away. For many that is the scariest part, the unseen, they want everything to fit in a box for safety.

But finally realizing that you are the one creating the entire movie you are seeing day to day, is so liberating. I now create my life, my life takes the direction wonderfully and I have realized that I do deserve the best my universe has to offer! And I am getting it, too!

There were many years I could only believe what I saw. Those were years of ego driven living. Those were my years of learning. I have awakened and can see so far ahead it amazes me. More and more will begin to have this realization as the energies are streaming to Earth now. My advice is to take the energies, use them to your advantage and grab the magic ring, it is right there!

Well I've read both threads now, and all i can say is, if you are going to come and say something, just do it, don't just spend a lot of time telling everyone about how much you know and how little they know, just for once, come out and say it, directly, clear, concise, how hard can it be to do it right?

You have posted a lot of stuff, but you never get to the point, so this basically shows to me, that there is no point, if you are going to first "teach" everyone a lot of stuff before they are able to understand your "truth", then obviously what you are doing here is not what you say, you are indeed creating a cult, why must everyone spend a lot of time following you around to learn bits of this supposed truth that you can but will not share? on your previous thread you clearly stated that you were going to explain a few things, on that thread, and on this one, you were going to give full disclosure on what you know, but neither of those things happened, instead, we get another "i will tell you.... later" thread, at 3 or 4 pages already, nothing has been disclosed.

For the people who is jumping all around saying this is wonderful and how much wisdom has been released here, please step back for a moment, nothing that has been posted on this thread is beyond our own knowledge, it is actually common knowledge, only that it is put on words that make it look as something special, but we all already know everything that was "disclosed" here, please don't give yourselves so little credit, if you feel it reaches you "at the core" or "resonates with you" or whatever you want to name it, it is because you already knew this! long before someone came selling it to you as the latest and greatest.

If people were more aware of their own capabilities and were not so easily guided by others, maybe we would be on a different 'level' already, stop destroying your own chances to grow! stop listening to each and every 'master of the truth' that comes around.

As a final note, you said you firmly believe "ignorance is bliss", then, why do you betray your own beliefs? by coming here and letting everyone know you have a great truth nobody else has? why have you awaken this need to learn the truth, when you first say it is better no to know? don't you understand the human nature at all? if you think something is not good enough to be shared with the rest of us, then simply, don't share it!

By starting this and the previous thread, you have shown not only that you desperately want attention, but that you don't believe what you supposedly hold as something of great value to you, now you need to either come out and disclose all you know, or completely stop posting about anything related to your "truth" because having people running around in circles only proves you came here to make fun of everyone and to gather attention around you, it makes you look bad, really.

So please do not post another "little bit of truth", just post everything at once and let everyone deal with it by themselves, if no one is supposed to know about this, then don't post it, at all. Just be responsible of your own actions, you have awaken something here, feed it then.

Kai

[edit on 2-1-2010 by Kaifan]

reply to post by Unleashed68


You were right..this has disturbed me, but not because my mind can't handle a truth, but more because i'm annoyed at myself for bothering to reply to you the first time around now i've read your reply above.

Happy Gray Area, spikey out.

This thread is leaning towards more disinfo than info. The fact that the op is leaning more towards covering up the truth of extraterrestrials and what the government knows, for the simple reason that `Humans won`t be able to handle`the truth` due to the way their psyche and mind is built leads me to this conclusion.

Us humans have the ability to adapt to anything, our minds are built to get used to things. If there is anything supernatural and unknown our minds will be able to adapt and grow immune to them, that`s why we`re here in this site and that`s why we keep searching the unexplored and unknown to find out answers to questions we could not possible have imagined, to things we could never have learned by just learning from the mass medi, so all the experiences you`ve had for more incredible they may seem you should never keep them secret.

By shareing this amazing experiences people as a whole can know about this things and the voice can be passed on, and on, until it will reach a point of mass awareness and when somebody else somewhere has a similar experience that you had he/she won`t be as shocked or impacted as you were, they will be better prepared for it if you will.

So in conclusion OP I believe your experience is true, but supressing it and letting everyone know its for the best of us, I don`t think so.

I've been racking my brain to try and figure out where the following quote is from but I can't seem to put my finger on it- perhaps I saw it on a similar forum years ago but the words really stuck with me and I think it is completely relevant to this topic:

"Am I a human being having a spiritual experience, or a spiritual being having a human experience"

Very interesting thread, hope to hear a follow up soon OP.

[edit on 2-1-2010 by Lack of Prozac]

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Sounds a bit "Scientology-ish."

The OP keeps mentioning that one must "separate themselves from reality".

We have a word for that on Planet Earth....it's called psychosis.

Has anybody considered the fact that if we were intended to have a "physical experience", which apparently (evidently) we are.....then why not do just that?

Much of this is "magical thinking". Generally seen in immature people who are bored with their lives, developing a world where they are somehow "special", or endowed with special powers, or have "special" information.

No disrespect intended....just my two.

(And yes, you can be "immature" at age 42).

Peace Out.

liw

[edit on 1/2/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

Congratulations, you have managed to offend pretty much everybody that believes in an afterlife, or that they are eternal beings - that they are suffering from a 'psychosis'.

Because the moment you start 'separating yourself from reality' and considering these metaphysical concepts, you are no longer accepting that once you are dead in the ground, that's it. Does this make someone mentally unstable? I think not. They're simply a teeny bit more open minded than you are!

And regarding scientology, did you know that the movement was infiltrated and corrupted by the Illuminati, turning it into something completely different from its original premise? Very interesting read HERE from whistleblower Dane Tops. Things are never quite as you assume at face value - you probably think the movement is all about money and nutbar celebrities. I'm not scientologist at all (personally I have no belief system whatsoever, just happy to take onboard whatever any theories that come by from wherever), but I'm inclined to believe he is telling the truth.

And what's with the overuse of the term 'immature'? I think that once you lose your childlike curiosity and inquisitiveness, you are effectively dead. Do you think you are so much more mature than the rest of us that would like to hear more from the OP? That in itself is an immature attitude. And the search for truth doesn't make us 'bored' either.. infact quite the opposite.. it's a thirst for what makes the universe tick!

reply to post by RiotComing


I believe I made it clear in my post that it was simply my opinion.
That's what it remains and I have no intentions to insult you or anyone else, as you are doing. The discussion at the time I made my post pertained to separating one's self from reality.

Please feel free to do so, without any cheap shots from me.

Thanks.

Yeah,
That didn't answer any of the questions that you were eluding to from your last thread, and anyone who wants to watch a great documentary about what you just wrote, Its called "What the Bleep" Or, part two, "One went down the rabbit hole". So, aside from your regurgitated lecture from your college physics and biology course, please let us know when you will actually tell us what we aren't ready to hear, because it wasn't this. I went to college too!

reply to post by ladyinwaiting

Well, I think once again the 'scientologists' were right in that they believed that psychiatry is destructive and abusive. What do we have going on today? That's right, every man and their dog are put under the microscope, being diagnosed for this and that, bipolar, ADHD, Aspergers.. in other words, anyone who thinks or acts a little different to the 'line of normality' in the world are branded insane.. and what you did in your post is absolutely no different.

If you are willing to entertain the idea that you are being controlled by a spirit, then you are suffering from a psychosis, right?

It strikes me that more and more people around the world, not just on the internet, but in everyday life, are coming forward with exactly the same theories. People on this thread have pointed it out.. the Sleeper thread for example, various authors. It's not a new idea at all.

I don't think the OP is consciously trying to steal anyone else's thunder, nor climb on the enlightenment bandwagon. His info came from ETs, just like my workmate's story also came from a meeting with an ET, that's right, beamed up onto an actual ship! I don't think he has any reason to lie or make things up. Especially in a small town where friends are hard enough to come by as it is. He's had a number of other mind-blowing experiences in his life, I don't think he's insane at all.. or suffering from a psychosis. He's absolutely fine. Apart from the things he's had shown to him and the experiences he's had, at 54 years of age, he's no different to you or I. He'll say 'gidday' to you on the street, he's a bloody good guy to work with and he's handy with a hammer and nail.. loves Ben Stiller movies and David Bowie, just a normal guy.

Hey, if we're all gonna die in the next couple of years, hey that's fine. We've all gotta die sometime, right? I really don't see any problem in what the OP is conveying. Most people on this planet believe we each have an eternal spirit (except for the majority this is engendered via religious dogma) - are they all crazy? And all of us are going to die sometime. So what's the big deal if we are all going to perish?

I wonder, if it comes down to people's fear of death.. fear of letting go from their physical bodies? We've been brainwashed into materiality and superficial gratifications, protecting our egos. There's nothing wrong with that, that's fine.. that's just the way we are as a society. It's just interesting that we are conditioned into massaging our own fragile egos by branding those who 'exist outside the box' as psychotic. And that's where I think the scientologists had it right - assimilation of the sheep, that's what it is! 'Think/behave this way or you are nuts' - or rather we don't want you to discover who you really are, so we are going to beat you down for it. John Lennon wrote a great song on this - 'Working Class Hero' - he too had ET experiences, oddly enough!

Okej OP can you please add me on msn? [email protected]


What you are saying is true! Not only because you said it but because I can feel some things you say to be true and I cross reference some things you say with other stuff I have come to know is true.


I would like to talk to you on msn, If you would have time.

If life is the illusion then what is reality? I bet you don't have an answer for that.

Naturalism,and Pantheism with no moral clause. So the op is admitting by omission that right and wrong are relative terms. The fact that no morals are established means that once one reaches the op's level of understanding that right and wrong do not exist. If this were true then the op would not be able to relay this enlightenment to anyone because any form of communication medium besides spiritual is actually an illusion.(LIE)
So based on the info presented by the op we should not agree with or accept anything unless we are asleep and dreaming, or are not in any way "driving our car".

The human body is nothing more than a crap bubble being farted by one of the many orifices possed by the bigger body, which is in turn just another bit of flatulence emitted by another and so-on.

Quite trite

reply to post by SuperSlovak

original post by SuperSlovak
If life is the illusion then what is reality? I bet you don't have an answer for that.

I believe the OP has already answered that question. The reality is you are a sentient energy form that is having a physical experience.

In the not too distant future you will wake up and realize that your physical life was just a lucid dream. Your spiritual friends will welcome you home and you will continue your eternal life much wiser for the experience.


[edit on 2-1-2010 by kennyb72]

reply to post by SuperSlovak

Is the answer something you are willing to comprehend? This is the OP's point, the truth will most likely blow your mind.

[edit on 2-1-2010 by RiotComing]

Originally posted by RiotComing
reply to post by ladyinwaiting

 

If you are willing to entertain the idea that you are being controlled by a spirit, then you are suffering from a psychosis, right?

I would appreciate it very much if you would stop putting words in my mouth. I did not say this. I happen to be a very spiritual person, however I will not detract any further from this thread with this nonsense.
Please check your u2u's.

Thanks.

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting

Originally posted by RiotComing
reply to post by ladyinwaiting

 

If you are willing to entertain the idea that you are being controlled by a spirit, then you are suffering from a psychosis, right?

I would appreciate it very much if you would stop putting words in my mouth. I did not say this. I happen to be a very spiritual person, however I will not detract any further from this thread with this nonsense.
Please check your u2u's.

Thanks.

I am just trying to get it straight what you mean, I never 'put words in your mouth'. It's up to you to confirm or refute it. It's called 'having a discussion'.

I would much rather have this discussion out in the open than via U2U. Be open and describe why you don't agree with the OP. Don't just sit back and make snide remarks and expect not to be taken to task over it.