My Theory on the Big Bang, Genesis Creation, and Re-creation

Science says there was a "Big Bang" that happened which birthed the universe. Question to all.... Since there has to be a cause to every effect, what was the cause of the "Big Bang?"

My theory is that the first line of the bible "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." To me there is proof that the genesis creation account could have begun through God's "Big Bang" creation. Between verses 1 and 2 in the bible, there is a huge time gap. You'll notice that the earth was void and desolate. There was, however, water on the planet before God began the creation of life on the planet. This, in my opinion, could have been a result of a great cosmic spiritual battle between God and Satan AFTER a previous life on earth... Cambrians, Dinosaurs, Prehistoric Mammals, etc.... Comets hitting the earth, the result of the massive extinction of dinosaurs could have been the result of a spiritual battle. When we read of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, we see Satan as a serpent, meaning that he was already cast down to earth after trying to overtake the throne of God in heaven.

What we read in Genesis after 1:1 is a RE-CREATION account. This recreation results in the beginning of mankind on earth 6000 years ago. The earth is billions of years old, but mankind is only about 6000 years old. This is my explanation of the "Big Bang Theory", the "Old earth intelligent design theory" and a debunking of the "Young Earth intelligent design theory". Anyone have objection to this possibility?

If you don't agree, please... I beg of you to explain how the "Big Bang" actually happened. What was the cause of the Big Bang? I have yet to hear evolutionists, scientists or athiests to explain the cause of all things.

Well, your idea makes sense, and I've never thought of it that way. Star and Flag.

reply to post by kingoftheworld


thanks for the support. I don't know why others haven't thought of this theory. The bible fully supports it too.

Well if I'm correct science actually doesn't say that the "big bang" actually occurred, it just says that it is a good hypothesis.

I have a theory that Genesis may actually start off after a great flood which accounts for the water already being there and the need to separate it from land so that man, woman, animals, plants, etc. could thrive and have a place to live (much like the Noah story). After all, before Adam and Eve, there would have been no one living to witness that account to pass it down (unless God shared that knowledge with them which is doubtful since knowledge was forbidden). However, the flood survivors on the ark would have been first-hand witnesses to Noah's flood account. Maybe the Adam and Eve story was one of Noah's tribe's creation myths to try to explain their origins. That might explain why the parts up until Noah's flood contain so many supernatural references that are hard to realistically fathom because they are so fantastical like many ancient pagan myths. I never see or hear anyone mention the possibility that Adam and Eve may have not even been real but an ancient tribe's struggle to understand their origins and the origins of the universe (much like we do). What if Noah's family/tribe was the actual flesh and blood first people?



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reply to post by Locoman8

C.S.Lewis held to a similar view of an Old Earth with a more recent creation of rentient man...
...this is also the view of many theologians.

reply to post by gazerstar


Interesting theory. I disagree with Adam and Eve being mythological, but it is an interesting theory. The waters left on the desolate earth may have been the result of a comet or asteroid hitting the earth causing massive titlewaves , desolation of polar caps, nuclear winter causing a prolonged ice age and then a meltdown of a desolate earthcicle. The great flood was a 40 day/40 night occurrence of rain along with a few months of high waters. It is possible that it may have been a regional flood as well seeing that the writers of the bible thought their plot of land to be the only earth they knew. Possibility is all. It may have been a global flood.

Once again, very interesting theory. I haven't heard that one before. Thanks for sharing it with us.

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Just like evolution should be as well...... But we're not getting into that one here. I know the "big bang" is a theory but most scientists seem to believe it true. There is even a scientist who claimed he helped prove the big bang true. He was on "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader" one time explaining it. My theory simply uses the "big bang" and explains how God could have easily been the creator of the "big bang" jump-starting creation of the universe. God created the "heavens" including the spirit-dwelling demention, the cosmos/space/universe, and the earth's atmosphere. These are the 3 heavens explained in the bible.

I also wanted to point out the fact for athiests or non-believers that there had to have been some CAUSE for the existence of the universe and our world. No one can truely explain it better than the bible in my opinion. Just takes some research. There is actually a good chronology of the bible that starts in John 1:1 and ends with the 7 day creation/rest in Genesis 1. I'll post it when I find it.

reply to post by Locoman8


Thank you. Of course, it's just a theory. None of us were present to witness the event so how can anyone truly know? It is fun to speculate though.

reply to post by gazerstar


Indeed it is. I enjoy creating theory to fill in the unknown gaps. Once again, as you said, it is only theory though. Shouldn't be passed off as undeniable fact.

This is exactly how I see it!

I heard somewhere...that if you rewind the clock, "humans" actually come to a population of just a few about 10,000 years ago!

I highly doubt the earth is less than that in age, though it really could be, already created "aged" that is, how would we know otherwise?

Its funny how this thread hasn't been hit with the "haters" and "name callers" yet, I love it!

This is how all threads should be like, discussing the topic, and not the members.

Not to derail this thread and pardon my really dumb question here but where (if at all) do UFOs and ET fit into the picture you are presenting?

It is the observation of the universe that is the creator
The "eye of creation"

Also our expanding conscious awareness is also opening up the multi dimensional fields
As well as expanding our known "sensed" universe

There is so much more to discover and our imagination is the key

As all that can be imagined all ready exists

It all ready is and there has not ever been a time ..

when it never did not exist ...

the consciousness of the universe .....Infinitely
goes on with me and with out me

after all there is only one "eye" in the universe....

reply to post by Locoman8


I have to ask what is your view on on Gen 1 (the days of creation) Vs. Gen 2 (the creation of Eden and Adam)?

Some argue that Gen 2 is on the sixth day, but when Adam and his family are expelled from Eden and Cain kills his brother, there are people outside of Eden. In fact there are enough people that Cain has a city built east of Eden in the land of Nod. This would imply that Eden's and Adam's creation occur after the events of Gen 1.

In addition to this the Serpent of the garden is called a "creature" formed of the dust of the ground in Genesis. It is said to be the most cunning creature of the Paradise. No where does it say this creature is an angel or spirit.

Instead it describes a creature more cunning than man, whose seed and humanity's seed shall always have enmity.

Also note the "Serpents", though cursed, were never expelled from Paradise like humanity.

[edit on 30/12/09 by MikeboydUS]

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Locoman8

 

I have to ask what is your view on on Gen 1 (the days of creation) Vs. Gen 2 (the creation of Eden and Adam)?

Some argue that Gen 2 is on the sixth day, but when Adam and his family are expelled from Eden and Cain kills his brother, there are people outside of Eden. In fact there are enough people that Cain has a city built east of Eden in the land of Nod. This would imply that Eden's and Adam's creation occur after the events of Gen 1.

In addition to this the Serpent of the garden is called a "creature" formed of the dust of the ground in Genesis. It is said to be the most cunning creature of the Paradise. No where does it say this creature is an angel or spirit.

Instead it describes a creature more cunning than man, whose seed and humanity's seed shall always have enmity.

Also note the "Serpents", though cursed, were never expelled from Paradise like humanity.

[edit on 30/12/09 by MikeboydUS]

First, to comment on the Gen. 1 to Gen. 2 question. Genesis 2 picks up back on the 6th day. In the Gen. 1:26 account, God created Man.... mankind as a whole. In Genesis 2, God is specifically dealing with the very first of the men created. A population of mankind was created on the 6th day, beginning with Adam. This is how Cain took up a wife without the ways of incest.

Second, the serpent being called a "created" creature is very accurate. What you fail to realize is that angels and demons can posess bodies of humans and animals. Just read about Jesus casting the demons out of the gentile and casting them into the herd of swine that committed suicide in the gospels. Satan posessed the body of the serpent.

Why do we know this serpent is Satan? First, Satan is the creator of evil and chaos. Second, the name "Satan" means "great deciever." This serpent indeed decieved all of mankind through this very act of persuasion with Eve and the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Through this persuasion/deciet and Adam's lack of commitment, all of mankind became cursed with the punishment of death, manual labor, and birth labor pains.

Does this help explain your concerns? Thanks for the questions, civility, and decorum. God bless you.

Originally posted by ATS23
Not to derail this thread and pardon my really dumb question here but where (if at all) do UFOs and ET fit into the picture you are presenting?

My take on the UFO's is this:

If there are UFO's, and I believe there are, they are probably government made crafts that are used to scare people. Am I ruleing out the possibility of outer-planetary crafts infiltrating our solar system? No. Not at all. I still believe most of it is government tests and scare tactics to try and keep the "loonies" in line. Proof of aliens will definitely help my views on this. The spiral in Norway on Dec. 9 really freaked me out because I know it was not a rocket motor going haywire. Some believe the return of Christ would seem like an alien invasion to those who don't know what's going on when it happens. What if these strange things in the sky like UFO's are angels or something? Just saying. Thanks for the post.

Originally posted by Solofront
This is exactly how I see it!

I heard somewhere...that if you rewind the clock, "humans" actually come to a population of just a few about 10,000 years ago!

I highly doubt the earth is less than that in age, though it really could be, already created "aged" that is, how would we know otherwise?

Its funny how this thread hasn't been hit with the "haters" and "name callers" yet, I love it!

This is how all threads should be like, discussing the topic, and not the members.

Yes, it is quite a civil discussion. Maybe we'll even get to page two before the putdowns. I have hope that this will be the most civil discussion on ATS. Let's all work to make this a civil conversation.

And here's another Theory There was no Big Bang... The Universe is infinite, we can only comprehend concepts with beginnings and ends. I'm a firm believer in the Theory of The Universe has always been here shifting and changing, but it never started and it won't end.

I'll give you some hints to decode parts of the bible.

The serpent refers to DNA. In most creation myths you will find a bird, and egg and a serpent. The bird lays an egg and two serpents intertwined come out. You will also find somewhere in there the number 4 which refers to the 4 parts of DNA G A T C.

In essence the word of god is DNA, and in truly knowing the word of god you will know how to create life.

There are hidden references in most mythological text to DNA with the intertwined serpents, the number 4 or 4 letters, an egg and usually a bird (which through evolution is related to the serpent.)





[edit on 31-12-2009 by gstrange42]

reply to post by Locoman8


I agree that demons or ovoth can posses living creatures, but there isn't any implication of possession in Genesis 3 or 2 Corinthians 11.

Genesis 3:14

So the L-RD G-D said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals!

2 Corinthians 11:3-4

But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

The Serpent's cunning convinced Eve. "Satan" doesn't mean deceiver, it means "accuser" and "hinderer". Its used for various things. Only "Ha-Satan" from the Book of Job has the term used as a type of title.

An Example:
Numbers 22:32

The Angel of the L-RD said to him, "Why have you struck your donkey these three times? Behold, I have come out as an adversary (satan in the Hebrew), because your way was contrary to me.

reply to post by MikeboydUS


The evil deceptional attributes of the serpent leads you to believe that Satan is the cause of this deception.... now weather Satan was in the snake or not, I cannot say for certain, but it was Satan's manipulation of that snake which caused it's evil ways.


Satan: The accuser:

Definition: Satan is styled the "accuser of the brethren" (Rev. 12:10. Comp. Job 1:6; Zech. 3:1), as seeking to uphold his influence among men by bringing false charges against Christians, with the view of weakening their influence and injuring the cause with which they are identified. He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30, 35; 24:8; 25:16, 18, in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.
Source: Easton Bible Dictionary.

Satan is an accuser and a deciever. Both meanings refer to Satan. they are inseperable.