Question about where to find Gov. Documents

Right now, I am looking for Government documents related to MKULTRA, UFO's, and other types of C.I.A/NASA related programs/projects. I have some of the FOIA documents, but am also looking for Non-FOIA documents. It's nice that certain documents have been released to Americans through the FOIA, but I don't trust those documents too much. Anything can be altered.

Where would I be able to find leaked documents? It would make the project more interesting to use not only FOIA released documents, but also leaked ones.

Sorry if this is a stupid question and under the wrong topic.

reply to post by ShadowKingpin


Hi there, I would like to help you out with your search of special documents. Take a look at this thread and it will give you a good head start.

The thread discusses different ways of finding unclassified documents and the speculation on what happens if you find something you were not supposed to.

Untold Information on Internet Search Engines

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We have a "FOIA Working Forum" on ATS

Here's the current thread list:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
You may find some members there that are well versed/experienced in tracking down and combing through such records.

Best of luck with your hunt and if you find any eye-opening realities please let us know through the forum above.

John Greenwald Jr runs the Black Vault. He has the most amazing collection of FOIA documents you can imagine online.

theblackvault.com

Best of luck to you.

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Depending on your nationality you may find this old thread concerning the Freedom of Information Act to be useful .

Cheers xpert11 .

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Originally posted by ShadowKingpin
Right now, I am looking for Government documents related to MKULTRA, UFO's, and other types of C.I.A/NASA related programs/projects. I have some of the FOIA documents, but am also looking for Non-FOIA documents. It's nice that certain documents have been released to Americans through the FOIA, but I don't trust those documents too much. Anything can be altered.

Where would I be able to find leaked documents? It would make the project more interesting to use not only FOIA released documents, but also leaked ones.

Sorry if this is a stupid question and under the wrong topic.

Easy, go to Google and type in the following search string:

site:nasa.gov filetype:pdf "UFO"

All that tells Google is to search NASA.gov for PDF files that contains the word "UFO".

You can see that by just typing in:

site:nasa.gov filetype:pdf

It states: Results 1 - 10 of about 2,730,000 from nasa.gov for filetype:pdf

2.73 million PDF files approximate. Just replace the commands with different filetypes, different websites and different words like "MKULTRA".

To search for these files on every government computer, just type .gov without a name, or a military website; .mil.
johnny.ihackstuff.com... - For a vast amount of Google search Strings.

Originally posted by the_denv

Originally posted by ShadowKingpin
Right now, I am looking for Government documents related to MKULTRA, UFO's, and other types of C.I.A/NASA related programs/projects. I have some of the FOIA documents, but am also looking for Non-FOIA documents. It's nice that certain documents have been released to Americans through the FOIA, but I don't trust those documents too much. Anything can be altered.

Where would I be able to find leaked documents? It would make the project more interesting to use not only FOIA released documents, but also leaked ones.

Sorry if this is a stupid question and under the wrong topic.

Easy, go to Google and type in the following search string:

site:nasa.gov filetype:pdf "UFO"

All that tells Google is to search NASA.gov for PDF files that contains the word "UFO".

You can see that by just typing in:

site:nasa.gov filetype:pdf

It states: Results 1 - 10 of about 2,730,000 from nasa.gov for filetype:pdf

2.73 million PDF files approximate. Just replace the commands with different filetypes, different websites and different words like "MKULTRA".

To search for these files on every government computer, just type .gov without a name, or a military website; .mil.
johnny.ihackstuff.com... - For a vast amount of Google search Strings.

Question mate. How do I make sure not to get caught searching for these documents?

Originally posted by ShadowKingpin

Question mate. How do I make sure not to get caught searching for these documents?

Well, your not doing anything illegal by searching for it. Anything on Google is public property weather or not the files are not meant to be there.

On the other hand you could use a proxy, like proxy.org....

If you don't mind going insane there's always the gov docs depository in your town. Most of the larger libraries are depositories. All universities are and have to make those documents available to the public.

Having the real article in hand is pretty awsome. Makes things much more real as opposed to some scan online. Seeing those blacked out bars in person is a cool thing.


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I just checked that johnny.ihackstuff domain and it seems that Google had words with Johnny. That site has been completely altered and changed and now the Google Hacking Database is gone.

BUT... with a bit of knowledge I remembered Archive.org and via this website you can still access the old GHDB

GHDB here:
EDIT: The forum code messed this URL up because of the astrix in it. Do enter the both URLs below as one entire URL. Copy and paste it if necessary. Also include the forward bracket and the astrix within the web address bar.
web.archive.org...
*/
johnny.ihackstuff.com...

[edit on 28/12/2009 by the_denv]

Originally posted by ShadowKingpin
Right now, I am looking for Government documents related to MKULTRA, UFO's, and other types of C.I.A/NASA related programs/projects.

There are some interesting government UFO documents at this thread and NICAP,Ufologie and the Black Vault have got quite a nice collection.


The Black Vault - Government Document Archive

NICAP - Official UFO Documents

Ufologie - FOIA declassified documents

Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) Related Documents

Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]

I can't thank all of you enough for the help. It means everything that because of you guys, I can continue my research. Thanks once again!

Heres another interesting link.

The documents listed on this page were located in response to the numerous requests received by NSA on the subject of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO). In 1980, NSA was involved in Civil Action No. 80-1562, "Citizens Against Unidentified Flying Objects Secrecy v. National Security Agency". Documents related to that ligitation are marked with "*". "XXXXX" has been inserted in a title if a portion of the title has been deleted prior to release. To select a document click on the document title, and wait for the PDF version to be downloaded to your local viewer. Approximate file sizes are given after each selection for user convenience

www.ufoalert.com...

Cheers.

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I've tried to use FOIA & just got the run-around. I submitted one to get information about a suspicious death. The FBI returned it saying they needed proof that this person was dead, which I provided. Then, they returned it again demanding that the dead guy sign a privacy waiver and certification of identity. lol

Gov docs forced out, the FOIA Reading Room:
foia.fbi.gov...
T for Tesla:
foia.fbi.gov...
He doesn't look readily available but keep searching on
Google and the official one from the site can be found.
ED:

Obtained in a freedom Of Information Act asking for more information after learning the government's code word for foo fighters ("Phoo Bombs").

There is and interview of a witness to a liftoff given to the FBI after
the war.
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Liftoff report given to FBI.
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Tesla FBI files that leaked the metal plate suspension.

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that one worked


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