Truth.

reply to post by fmcanarney

Name the last time you donated money to a cause for protecting children.

Name me the last time you did not require it? "money" why donaite money to protect children?

Do you think money will protect a child from being abused from his farther or mother?

or is it it makes you feel better?

money is not the problem PEOPLE ARE.

reply to post by 13579


answer my question 13579-97531= -83952

reply to post by 13579


answer my question When was the last time you gave money to help children who are being hurt??

Honesty and integrity are important aspects of being human.
To seek the truth is honorable, to call it relative is deplorable.
Only an ignorant fool would call a fact relative.

Now, onto my main points.

I do not wish to deal with religion or the existence of God,
every human being has ways of coping with death,
through lies I admit.
We have not seen God nor the afterlife.
Those who defy this with arguments of near death experiences,
I have only one thing to say. When your body is dying,
you enter a state of mind that resembles sleep. In fact
the same chemicals responsible for dreaming are mass produced
in your brain to give you peace when you pass away.
In other words, you hallucinate. You see what you expect to see,
tunnels, angels, people who have passed over, have you ever tried smoking Salvia, it's a similar concept.

Money, pieces of paper, meaningless, used only for the purpose
of classism, division between the wealthy and the poor.
A tool used to enslave the majority of mankind by a
worthless minority of self righteous leeches.

The purpose of the human race?
No one knows, the best suited theory that makes
us feel good about ourselves is this:
To learn as much as we can in order to improve ourselves
and the world we live in. Kinda Ironic that even this we cannot follow as a species, a definition to the question
of our very existence. A more realistic, at least,
modern answer to this question?
To limit our intellectual development towards the surrounding
environment, as long as we are comfortable in said surrounding
environment. To enjoy pain and suffering brought by
ignorance and self pity. To trade in freedom for slavery in the name of comfort. Have I hit the nail on the head here?

reply to post by Radekus

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
reply to post by 13579

 

Truth is relative.

You are refering to me?

To seek the truth is honorable, to call it relative is deplorable.
Only an ignorant fool would call a fact relative.

I am not sure if i follow your little leap of logic here but what you are saying is "truth = fact"??

How about your truth not being my truth? Or is the truth you hold superiour over mine?

If the truth were fact why bother looking for it?

But still i would not consider calling you ignorant, i respect your "truth".

Peace


[edit on 28/12/2009 by operation mindcrime]

Originally posted by Radekus
I do not wish to deal with religion or the existence of God,
every human being has ways of coping with death,
through lies I admit.

It is good to know that there are people out there who have all the answers! This is a "fact"which you present? .......Proof???

We have not seen God nor the afterlife.
Those who defy this with arguments of near death experiences,
I have only one thing to say. When your body is dying,
you enter a state of mind that resembles sleep. In fact
the same chemicals responsible for dreaming are mass produced
in your brain to give you peace when you pass away.
In other words, you hallucinate. You see what you expect to see,
tunnels, angels, people who have passed over, have you ever tried smoking Salvia, it's a similar concept.

Yes, and love is simply the chemical reaction in your brain that tells you that you have found a suitable mate for reproduction?

Money, pieces of paper, meaningless, used only for the purpose
of classism, division between the wealthy and the poor.
A tool used to enslave the majority of mankind by a
worthless minority of self righteous leeches.

That is not the property of money but the property of greed. Which comes from humans not money.

The purpose of the human race?
No one knows, the best suited theory that makes
us feel good about ourselves is this:
To learn as much as we can in order to improve ourselves

Now this i can relate too...

Kinda Ironic that even this we cannot follow as a species, a definition to the question
of our very existence. A more realistic, at least,
modern answer to this question?
To limit our intellectual development towards the surrounding
environment, as long as we are comfortable in said surrounding
environment.

You seem pretty content with your conclusion of life. Comfortable even and the way you state that death is just death and nothing more suggest that you are pretty much closed to learning new things that do not correspond to your version of the "truth"

To enjoy pain and suffering brought by
ignorance and self pity. To trade in freedom for slavery in the name of comfort. Have I hit the nail on the head here?

I don't know. It is your reality and your "truth" but i guess that makes it everybody's reality, right?

All in good fun..

Peace

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Let's continue on this because i am intrigued...

Protagoras: Truth is relative. It is only a matter of opinion.

Socrates: You mean that truth is mere subjective opinion?

Protagoras: Exactly. What is true for you is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Truth is subjective.

Socrates: Do you really mean that? That my opinion is true by virtue of its being my opinion?

Protagoras: Indeed I do.

Scorates: My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you, Mr. Protagoras, are absolutely in error. Since this is my opinion, then you must grant that it is true according to your philosophy.

Protagoras: You are quite correct, Socrates.

Operation Mindcrime: Whitin the confines of what is true for you, you are correct. That doesn't make it less subjective.

Your turn..

Peace

[edit on 28/12/2009 by operation mindcrime]

I like my life very much......

2nd line

Originally posted by operation mindcrime

 

have you ever seen god?

His name is Eddy and i have seen him, yes.

Wrong god for his name is BOB



[edit on 28-12-2009 by Xtrozero]

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Eddy said he is God and frankly i have no reasonable argument to question this. Maybe Eddy works for BOB....

Peace

reply to post by fmcanarney


Sorry i have not posted..

To answer your question NOT once.

Do you know how much is spent on PR when it comes to protecting children or how much an advert

reply to post by Xtrozero


MY

My would mean you could not give a toss about OUR life correct?

My would mean "im ok jack"

MY is what is the problem MY god MY money MY life MY planet

replace it with OUR

changes aspects of your thinking

or go watch NATURE see how MY works out..

because humans stand out a mile when it comes to being selfish

reply to post by operation mindcrime


ahh good!

lets do it again shall we..

Me : My truth says im right becuase its my view
You: Yes but if that was the case then so is mine

Logic: You are both wrong because you share the same point in time and space and truth is an understanding of reality shared by both.

Me: What do you mean my truth is only relitive to me
You: Yes we do agree on that

Logic: That is my point.. if you both got run over by a bus would you both be correct when you could not argue the thruth of the matter?

Me: well no
You: I agree

Logic: So what is the underlying truth? aspect of ones view? or the acceptence of reality ?

Your move

reply to post by operation mindcrime

That is not the property of money but the property of greed. Which comes from humans not money.

and who invented money? LOL

or is that a hard one to work out?

reply to post by 13579


Why have you not put your money where your mouth exists?

Do I expect you to answer my question?

"Around and around the mulberry bush...."

That will be your answer.





[edit on 28-12-2009 by fmcanarney]

reply to post by fmcanarney


Im have told you more than once, yet you still do not get the point of what money is do you?

I could use peas as money.... would that make any logical sence to you?

Do you understand MONEY is paper? and in fact has NO use other than VALUE one gives it?

why do you think we have DIFFERNT CURRENCY

sheesh...

and you wonder why the world is a mess..

keep it coming.

We are talking about the truth.. here

If i seen a starvin person on the road.. would i give him money?

then ask your self

why is he starving?

because has NO money..



[edit on 28-12-2009 by 13579]

To the OP:

I mean this in only the nicest possible way, but I found little if any substantive truth in your original post. The message seemed overall negative, untrue, and counter-productive.

There are many who think God could exist. For you to say it couldn't is -- guess what -- a lie. Anything could exist.

The notion of bodies being merely temporary vessels for souls seems so obvious to me, but to each his own.

I completely agree that paper money is just paper, but... I haven't seen any suggestions for what to do about that. We still have to buy food and pay bills.

From one human being to another, I wish you only the best.

[edit on 28-12-2009 by Sun Spot]

Originally posted by 13579

MY

My would mean you could not give a toss about OUR life correct?

My would mean "im ok jack"

MY is what is the problem MY god MY money MY life MY planet

replace it with OUR

changes aspects of your thinking

or go watch NATURE see how MY works out..

because humans stand out a mile when it comes to being selfish

I like it better with "My" as in my life, my family, my friends....

When I keep it as a “my” then "I" can choose or choose not what "I" want to do. You talk as if we were a collective, and at times a collective is the right choice, but also my choice to join.

This is not our life unless I choose it to be and to what level I want it to be “ours”. I worked hard all my life not for you or anyone else, but for me, and those I choose to be a part of my life. You are not a part of my life and so what happens to you is little consequences to me.


Hmmm nature, When a lion brings down a kill who eats first? Do they care for the loss of life they caused?

Humans are predators and we act as any other predator does in nature, but we just happen to be the most dangerous one of all.

Originally posted by Sun Spot

I completely agree that paper money is just paper, but... I haven't seen any suggestions for what to do about that. We still have to buy food and pay bills.

Very true, but call it what you will. Paper money, salt, spices, corn... it does matter for unless you have the ability to grow, make or create everything you need then you will need to barder with something of value with others.

Even in a collective as the OP suggests we all join as one, or something like that, you would still need to supply something to the collective as your part, and so you still have something that others need and they have stuff that you need.

Money just makes it all easier and quicker to exchange ones goods especially in a world where the majority of us do not have a finished product to offer, but provide valuable skill to a larger goal.

what I dont get about money, is why there is debt? why is there owing? why is there different value to each currency? How does an Economy collapse when money cant disappear?

I believe a currency system is a good thing! But using it in the wrong matter changes everything. From rent, food, health, we PAY to live, does that sound right?? Because of that cycle, we are controlled, forced to work to live.

It keeps the power in place. Imagine if no one uses their money no more. Dropping the US dollars and Euro, what would it be then?? Just paper and ink. Those corporate millionaires would just be sitting on a large amount of paper.

Money was the biggest con in the world haha and it stinks



[edit on 29-12-2009 by Sly_U]