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How to make the case for Israel and win

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posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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To the benefit of the many not-very-bright zionist wannabe apologists who read this a$$iduously, I decided to offer a clear and simple method of arguing the case for Israel. This clear and simple method has been distilled from a life spent listening to and reading Zionist propaganda. It is easy to follow and results are guaranteed or your money back.

So don't hesitate! Take advantage NOW of this revolutionary rhetorical system that will make YOU a great apologist for Israel in less time than it takes to shoot a Palestinian toddler in the eye.

Ready? 1..2..3..GO!

You need to understand just one principle:

The case for Israel is made of four propositions that should always be presented in the correct escalating order.



1. We rock
2. They s%ck
3. You s%ck
4. Everything s%cks


That's it. Now you know everything that it took me a lifetime to learn. The rest is details; filling in the dotted lines.

You begin by saying how great Israel is. Israel want peace; Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East; the desert blooms; kibutz; Israelis invented antibiotics, the wheel, the E minor scale; thanks to the occupation Palestinians no longer live in caves; Israel liberates Arab women; Israel has the most moral army in the world, etc.

This will win over 50% of your listeners immediately. Don't worry about the factual content. This is about brand identity, not writing a PhD. Do you really think BP is 'beyond petroleum'?

Then you go into the second point: They suck. Here you talk about the legal system of Saudi Arabia, gay rights in Iran, slave trade in the Sudan, Mohammad Atta, the burqa, Palestinians dancing after 9/11, Arafat's facial hair, etc.

There is only one additional principle you need to understand here. It will separate you from the amateurs. You need to know your audience. If you've got a crowd already disposed to racist logic, go for it with everything you have. But if you get a liberal crowd, you need to sugar coat the racism a bit. Focus on women rights, human rights, religious tolerance, "clash of civilizations", terrorism, they teach their children to hate, etc. Deep down your audience WANTS to enjoy racism and feel superior. They just need the proper encouragement so they can keep their sophisticated self-image. Give them what they crave and they'll adore you! But be careful not to 'mix n match,' because it will cost you credibility.

When you're done, there will always be dead-enders insisting that abuse of gays in Iran does not justify ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Take a deep breath, and pull the doomsday weapon: You suck!

You're a Jew-hater, Arab-lover, anti-Semite, you're a pinko, a commie, a dreamer, a naive, a self-hater, you have issues, your mother worked for the Nazis, Prince Bandar buys you cookies, you forgot you were responsible for the holocaust, etc. The more the merrier. By the time you end this barrage, only a handful would be left standing. For mopping them up, you use the ultimate postmodern wisdom: Everything sucks.

War, genocide, racism, oppression are everywhere. From the Roma in Italy to the Native-Americans in the U.S., the weak are victimized. Why pick on Israel? It's the way of the world. Look! Right is only in question between equals in power; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Ethics, schematics. Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Eat, drink! Carpe diem! The Palestinians would throw us into the sea if they could. Ha ha!

Trust me, that's as far as words can go. If you followed this method faithfully, you've done your work. You should leave the few who are still unconvinced to the forces of order.

Congratulations!
You are now ready to
apologize for Israel like a pro.


Source: How to make the case for Israel and win



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 03:00 PM
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Actually there is another option - tell the truth. As an experienced "not-very-bright zionist wannabe apologist" myself, i can assure you that it works in lots of cases. Simply because people who really care about the issue are few, but propaganda warriors are numerous. People who care about the issue present truth. Propaganda warriors spit so much info they have no idea about, that they are certain to get lots of stuff wrong. Then it is time of not-very-popular-with-propaganda-warriors-from-both-sides-of-front simple truth.
For example - simple truth - there is no ethnic cleansing in Israel.



posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
simple truth - there is no ethnic cleansing in Israel.


Yes, but in Palestine. Jews need to realise their hypocrisy when they try to defend their advances into Palestine. They are doing exactly what the Nazi’s where doing, taking back their 'homeland' (however the Germans had much more right to Germany than the Jews do to Israel).



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 01:16 AM
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You should read the book "Majdi and the truth"

very well written about a palestinian who was tourtured by his own people for wanting peace.





ROCK ME HARD!!!!!



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 01:24 AM
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Man, when you break it down like this, in hindsight, they nearly always follow that order.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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Too bad that's not actually the truth, isn't it?

See, the big difference between people who argue the Palestinian side, and the people who argue the Israeli side... those of us on the Palestinian side are fully capable, and often quite ready to tell (or in many cases, admit) the truth of the Palestinian situation. The Israeli side is incapable of doing anything but lying when it comes to their side of the argument - and often the other side, as well.

What's your next lie going to be, liar?



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:09 AM
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Just keep posting distorted information consistently trying to make the US, Israel, Jews of the world look guilty for anything imaginable.

It will reinforce the prejudices of the ignorant, and inform insightful people that you're just another cog in the propaganda wheel.

Israel is fully aware the Palestinian leaders want continued conflict to keep the money flowing in - and not peace.

So they've now put the ball in the court of the Palestinians now.

Typically we will get tons of rhetoric and gnashing of teeth but no serious attempts to reconcile differences.

And people on conspiracy sites will gnatter with one another about Evil Zionists.

Jews and Muslims living together in Israel will move forward. The Palestinians will continue to marginalize themselves. When the Iranian Ayatollah regime collapses next year the Palestinians will have serious problems.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:12 AM
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I think the Palestinians have said they will not join peace talks until Israel STOPS building settlements on Palestinian land.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by Moonman1111
reply to post by mmiichael
 


I think the Palestinians have said they will not join peace talks until Israel STOPS building settlements on Palestinian land.



The Palestinians have found excuses for breaking off talks with Israel for one and only one reason.

Leadership manages billions of dollars in foreign aid and donations . That means millions can be stolen. Check out fat Mrs Arafat's fat Swiss account known to be in the hundreds of millions.

The Palestinians have peace they will just be another impoverished Arab state. No education, skills, technology, nothing.

Everyone who understands the world we live in knows this.

There's a slim chance of the Palestinians going somewhere if they dump the criminals and thugs who act as their spokesman. Guys whose goals are getting fat checks from guilted Norwegian corporations - not milk for Palestinian babies.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:30 AM
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What can i say, but Thank You for this brilliant piercing satire.
You nailed it on the head my friend, S&F + kudos for a job well done.

For those who refuse to pull your head out of the sand (or you know what) and open your eyes, please strip yourself of all ego and illusions of identity and reaccess the facts.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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Show me where there is ethnic cleansing now in Israel. As simple as that. Then if you prove your point which shouldn't be hard since you are so humbly suggested that you are " fully capable" - you can call me a liar. Right now it does not look ,well, "capable".
Good luck.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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HOW TO MAKE A CASE FOR ISRAEL...One that every Arab leader will support.




posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by Moonman1111
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I think the Palestinians have said they will not join peace talks until Israel STOPS building settlements on Palestinian land.



The Palestinians have found excuses for breaking off talks with Israel for one and only one reason.

Leadership manages billions of dollars in foreign aid and donations . That means millions can be stolen. Check out fat Mrs Arafat's fat Swiss account known to be in the hundreds of millions.

The Palestinians have peace they will just be another impoverished Arab state. No education, skills, technology, nothing.

Everyone who understands the world we live in knows this.

There's a slim chance of the Palestinians going somewhere if they dump the criminals and thugs who act as their spokesman. Guys whose goals are getting fat checks from guilted Norwegian corporations - not milk for Palestinian babies.



I'm pretty sure its the bulldozers ramming their way into their family dining rooms that is making them not want to talk with Israelis, rather than greed lol. Speaking of aid, do you think Israel will ever pay the American tax payers the billions shes taken from us?



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 04:10 AM
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How about eskewing "sides" altogether. Hm? Not a black and white world hate to tell you. But then again I most likely got myself classified as one of "them" now huh? "My what fools these mortals be."


 
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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by Moonman1111
I'm pretty sure its the bulldozers ramming their way into their family dining rooms that is making them not want to talk with Israelis, rather than greed lol. Speaking of aid, do you think Israel will ever pay the American tax payers the billions shes taken from us?


You don't know much about Israel. 75% of the money Israel receives mandatoraly as to be used to buy American goods. The rest of the money is generally used to finance industries where Americans receive shares. It's essentially repayable loans and subsidies, not charity.

Now Egypt receives virtually the same amount of foreign aid from the US and does not haves to spend a dime of it in the US. Add in relief to other Muslim countries like Pakistan, Jordan, the Plaestinians, et al - the Muslim world receives vastly greater amounts of US taxpayer dollars than Israel. It is though much of that money is used for projects counter to US interests.

But conspiracists love ot hate Israel and turn a blind eyes to the real events in the Middle East.



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
You don't know much about Israel. 75% of the money Israel receives mandatoraly as to be used to buy American goods. The rest of the money is generally used to finance industries where Americans receive shares. It's essentially repayable loans and subsidies, not charity.

Now Egypt receives virtually the same amount of foreign aid from the US and does not haves to spend a dime of it in the US. Add in relief to other Muslim countries like Pakistan, Jordan, the Plaestinians, et al - the Muslim world receives vastly greater amounts of US taxpayer dollars than Israel. It is though much of that money is used for projects counter to US interests.

But conspiracists love ot hate Israel and turn a blind eyes to the real events in the Middle East.

What lies..laughable. Already covered this many times before

Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that “Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid.” That’s true. But it’s still a lie.

One can truthfully blame the mainstream media for never digging out these figures for themselves, because none ever have. They were compiled by the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. But the mainstream media certainly are not alone. Although Congress authorizes America’s foreign aid total, the fact that more than a third of it goes to a country smaller in both area and population than Hong Kong probably never has been mentioned on the floor of the Senate or House. Yet it’s been going on for more than a generation.

Israel, whose troubles arise solely from its unwillingness to give back land it seized in the 1967 war in return for peace with its neighbors, does not fit those criteria. In fact, Israel’s 1995 per capita gross domestic product was $15,800. That put it below Britain at $19,500 and Italy at $18,700 and just above Ireland at $15,400 and Spain at $14,300.

All four of those European countries have contributed a very large share of immigrants to the U.S., yet none has organized an ethnic group to lobby for U.S. foreign aid. Instead, all four send funds and volunteers to do economic development and emergency relief work in other less fortunate parts of the world.

The lobby that Israel and its supporters have built in the United States to make all this aid happen, and to ban discussion of it from the national dialogue, goes far beyond AIPAC, with its $15 million budget, its 150 employees, and its five or six lobbyists who manage to visit every member of Congress individually once or twice a year.

AIPAC, in turn, can draw upon the resources of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, a roof group set up solely to coordinate the efforts of some 52 national Jewish organizations on behalf of Israel.

Israel has received, from a variety of U.S. federal budgets, at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000.

As of Oct. 31, 1997 Israel will have received $3.05 billion in U.S. foreign aid for fiscal year 1997 and $3.08 billion in foreign aid for fiscal year 1998. Adding the 1997 and 1998 totals to those of previous years since 1949 yields a total of $74,157,600,000 in foreign aid grants and loans. Assuming that the actual totals from other budgets average 12.2 percent of that amount, that brings the grand total to $83,204,827,200.


But that’s not quite all. Receiving its annual foreign aid appropriation during the first month of the fiscal year, instead of in quarterly installments as do other recipients, is just another special privilege Congress has voted for Israel. It enables Israel to invest the money in U.S. Treasury notes. That means that the U.S., which has to borrow the money it gives to Israel, pays interest on the money it has granted to Israel in advance, while at the same time Israel is collecting interest on the money. That interest to Israel from advance payments adds another $1.650 billion to the total, making it $84,854,827,200.That’s the number you should write down for total aid to Israel. And that’s $14,346 each for each man, woman and child in Israel.


[sources and further information on the amount(s) paid to Israel]



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by December_Rain

What lies..laughable. Already covered this many times before
Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that “Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid.” That’s true. But it’s still a lie.


Yeah yeah Yeah. Evil, Evil, Lies, Lies, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda


Do some research beyond Google and supply a linked source less than ten years old.

Egypt receives almost parity with Israel in foreign aid. When neighbouring Muslim countries are aggregated it is significantly more than Israel recieves.

And of course you will ignore the already mentioned terms and stipulations.
Name one foreign country in all history where it has been been required that 75% of funds to be to spend on American produced goods and services. Name one.

Which other country uses their foreign aid to develop shared technologies?





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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:37 AM
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Back to you do some research instead of repeating lies like a 5 yr old sucking a thumb



posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by December_Rain
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Back to you do some research instead of repeating lies like a 5 yr old sucking a thumb


These threads are fascinating in a morbid way.

But the regulars are predictable. No perspective, no depth, no insight. Anything that isn't critical of Israel or the US is a considered a lie.

I always wonder if compulsive haters and venom spitters have lives beyond Google.







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posted on Dec, 30 2009 @ 04:53 AM
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You wouldn't know
because you are one of them



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