International officials met with ETs in November?

Originally posted by watcher73

Originally posted by Helmkat
reply to post by Zeptepi

 

I've always had the suspicion that our nukes might do more then we think, like perhaps create rips in the fabric between dimensions or something else equally bizarre that we were not aware of and when we started testing this stuff other civilizations got pissed.

Hmmm, would this mean every star is ripping the fabric also? (insert another landing strip joke here)

I have a hard time believing our somewhat tiny nukes are having that kind of effect when you take stars in all the forms into account. Supernova, neutron, black holes....

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Just wild speculation, nothing more, just really trying to say that our nukes might cause issues we are not aware of.

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The big rumor at the time was that Japan had secretly made an atomic bomb and our black ops guys went over there and stole some of the weaponized plutonium as proof. They brought it to Johnston to deliver it to the higher ups and/or dispose of it in the vault for safe keeping. Technically as part of our agreement with Japan, they are not allowed to make nuclear weapons. I think if this rumor is true than we are holding the evidence for political blackmail. Besides Britan, Japan is one of our biggest allies. But that doesn't mean we don't have spies over there to keep an eye on them.

Interesting, Airstrip in the middle of nowhere.

Originally posted by Waldy

Originally posted by Molan27
It's funny people use to Laugh at the National Enquirer stories written about UFO's back in the late 70's early 80's and alot of those stories turned out to be true.

I wasnt aware of this. Could you please enlighten us what stories turned out to be true and provide a link maybe?

Actually try reading: UFO'S and The National Security State by Richard Dolan. or just Google your question...

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Originally posted by iballs
Nice but fiction.

Contact has long since been made and relations kept up via a number of joint research bases. Primary communications via Pine Gap's facility and lesser installations are consistent. Procedures are in place for greeting newly arrived cultures.

The need for a "Holloman AFB" visit, remains in the past - we're well and truly beyond initial greetings.

This reminded me of a conversation I had with someone who worked at Nasa.. He told me..right out of blue one day that "we" I guess he meant the U.S.A. have 'Space Beacons' that give any new alien races general info where to land and or protocol for exploration.. This was years and years ago way before I was interested in any of this..which is why he felt save to say it, I would bet.

Originally posted by Realtruth
ET's can't be to smart if they are meeting with the government or government officials.

If ET's are so highly evolved then surely they would avoid the corrupt governments.

I'll just wait for them to show up on my street, face to face then I am a believer.

Right now it is all just hot air and emails.

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According to Bill Cooper, if my memory serves me right, two groups of aliens vied for America's cooperation for the exchange of technology for our natural resources. One group would not negotiate unless we destroyed our weapons and vowed to be peaceful. The other group did not have this stipulation. This supposedly happened in Florida in the 50's or 60's. I don't recall which. Nonetheless, the U.S basically told the peaceful E.T's to pack sand and joined forces with the other.

I will NOT (knock on wood) believe any race of aliens to be from, sanctioned by, or supported by my God, if that alien is introduced to me by a government. Whether it be mine or anyone elses. I do however believe there are benevolent aliens. I believe these are what Christians call angels. Therfore, I do not believe they would help or condone the acts of a government that would bail out rich people with so much money that if they were to give every home owning American an equal share of the same funds, we would have no consumer debt.

Can I get an Amen?!

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reply to post by Monts


I would really love to know the REAL TRUTH about the UFO sitings seen around the world. I get weery when i hear them called by exact description as though they are on the front page of the news. names like grays and statements such as you know there not belevolent / pesky im really not understanding? So if i get this right why are we still looking for answers? its obvious that the aliens exist and are grays or whatever case solved?
To say they were this species or that means you have some inside knowledge?
There are to many outlandish claims these days truth and facts are dead bring on the fabrication!!

Originally posted by NEWclearMind

Originally posted by Realtruth
ET's can't be to smart if they are meeting with the government or government officials.

If ET's are so highly evolved then surely they would avoid the corrupt governments.

I'll just wait for them to show up on my street, face to face then I am a believer.

Right now it is all just hot air and emails.

[edit on 21-12-2009 by Realtruth]

According to Bill Cooper, if my memory serves me right, two groups of aliens vied for America's cooperation for the exchange of technology for our natural resources. One group would not negotiate unless we destroyed our weapons and vowed to be peaceful. The other group did not have this stipulation. This supposedly happened in Florida in the 50's or 60's. I don't recall which. Nonetheless, the U.S basically told the peaceful E.T's to pack sand and joined forces with the other.

I will NOT (knock on wood) believe any race of aliens to be from, sanctioned by, or supported by my God, if that alien is introduced to me by a government. Whether it be mine or anyone elses. I do however believe there are benevolent aliens. I believe these are what Christians call angels. Therfore, I do not believe they would help or condone the acts of a government that would bail out rich people with so much money that if they were to give every home owning American an equal share of the same funds, we would have no consumer debt.

Can I get an Amen?!

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So how do you explain the government having some of their technology

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Originally posted by boomadatigger
reply to post by Monts

 

Nefarious? From whose point of view? What if it were revealed that the reason they do these "abductions" (such a loaded word) is because its part of a familiarization program? Would you still claim it a nefarious agenda? The way I think of it, if they were really abducting people and terrorizing them they would let the abductees have FULL recall of their experience. That would drive me insane I tell you. To be taken out of your room abruptly by things you thought were only in the movies and experimented on and left with the full memory of that event. Repressing our memories...almost sounds like they care about our well being.

You have a good point, if abductions are indeed a real phenomena (which I am almost certain they are), we cannot judge the nature and true intentions behind them.

However, from our current perspective with the knowledge we do have, whatever is happening to thousands of people is causing great negativity in their lives. Marriages have been destroyed, families separated, jobs lost, lives have gone down the drain because of it.

Whether or not abductions are nefarious in nature or not, the effect they cause on people is nefarious, which is reason enough for me to believe that while the grey's may not seem to have anything against us, and that this agenda may be beneficial to us in some way, they really don't seem to care about the side effects of their activities.

Yes, memory blocking does seem like beneficial action on their part, but I really don't think the whole reason they perform it is out of courtesy. If everyone were to have total recall of their experiences, we would live in a much different world, were the existence of ET's and their motives would be at the forefront of our quest for knowledge. Although it may be courteous in nature, I get the feeling it is more of an effort to conceal and hide.

if the goverment did inface meat will extraterrestrial would there be a poof on the island?.

Great Post OP!

Not sure this island is the one,but Timothy Good mentions a secret island where the aliens are working hand in hand with our own scientists.This information came from high up the naval command structure(Navy knows it all!)but he wasnt told the location.

Every one thought Area 51 was the smoking gun,but that was just a smoke screen to draw attention in that direction.

I must admit I have googled earthed the pacific in hope of seeing this Island,not sure if you have hit the jackpot but there is an island out there with naval destroyers making sure no vessels can get near it-perhaps this is it?

great thread,thanks for posting

Originally posted by noangels
Great Post OP!

Not sure this island is the one,but Timothy Good mentions a secret island where the aliens are working hand in hand with our own scientists.This information came from high up the naval command structure(Navy knows it all!)but he wasnt told the location.

Every one thought Area 51 was the smoking gun,but that was just a smoke screen to draw attention in that direction.

I must admit I have googled earthed the pacific in hope of seeing this Island,not sure if you have hit the jackpot but there is an island out there with naval destroyers making sure no vessels can get near it-perhaps this is it?

great thread,thanks for posting

Thanks for your words and you comment, noangels.

Sometime I stumble over the truth.
This time seems that there are many many unusual clues around that remote Island lost in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Originally posted by Imagir
Quote from UFO Digest by Steve Hammons.
Read full article.
www.ufodigest.com...

Has anyone debunked the source of this information? I enjoy reading everyone's theories about the island and ET meetings and whatnot...but can we

Stay on Topic?

Thank You

Interesting but those Islands seem to be largely manmade, this could mean those structures under water are trenches created when they where enlarging the islands.

reply to post by Zeptepi


Look what someone has done to a nice island....all this nuclear testing isn't good for the environment or our health... no wonder there's tons of health problems these days and children being born still or with abnormalities.... the radiation from those clouds carries in the wind and rain ya know....

Originally posted by noangels
Great Post OP!

Not sure this island is the one,but Timothy Good mentions a secret island where the aliens are working hand in hand with our own scientists.This information came from high up the naval command structure(Navy knows it all!)but he wasnt told the location.

Every one thought Area 51 was the smoking gun,but that was just a smoke screen to draw attention in that direction.

I must admit I have googled earthed the pacific in hope of seeing this Island,not sure if you have hit the jackpot but there is an island out there with naval destroyers making sure no vessels can get near it-perhaps this is it?

great thread,thanks for posting

I'm betting the Island Timothy Good talks about is almost certainly Diego Garcia. (Chagos Military Base). That place is heavily censored and protected.

It is in a great location for remoteness, but access to all the future problems of conflict that are likely to arise.

On July 29, 1926, by Executive Order, President Calvin Coolidge established Johnston Atoll as a Federal bird refuge and placed it under the control of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Why would they test nukes at a "federal bird refuge"?

reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist


Yes, you are correct! I did not show the pics of the deformed children in some of these test island areas.
They are truly just way too graphic even for this forum!

Somewhere between all the hyperbole and speculation, lies the truth. There seems to me, a definite correlation with the extraterrestrial phenomenon and the worlds testing of nuclear (unclear) weapons.

Even here at ATS we have a large body of information ranging from the Roswell incident near (at that time) the worlds only nuclear delivery system. The re-targeting of a cadre of ICBM's both American and Soviet. And Many others.

My own personal observations of several flying objects
over the Mound Laboratories reactor in Miamisburg Ohio in the late 70's (they made the raw materials for nuclear weapons) and what those objects did over it. Along with many of my colleagues at Wright Patterson AFB.
Who have worked in this arena from the beginning of the cold war definitively lead me to understand the level
of commitment the beings hold toward halting all of the worlds nuclear weapons testing and deployment. They are not fooling around.

My credentials in this matter do not matter. But take it for what it is worth (not much at ATS). The Probability of such a meeting is more than probable, and the location as well.

The location on my member info is KFFO...or ffo for you jp8 huffers. is correct....google it if you wish.

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O.k... You might want to read it again. The U.S. Chose to transfer technology for natural resources with the latter of the two groups of aliens. There was one group which wanted to help us. They were peaceful. They only wanted us to destroy our weapons in return for their technelogical help. The other group, which we made the deal with, didn't care if we were peaceful. They wanted to trade. Therefore, it is my observation that the peaceful beings that we didn't befriend were our friendly aliens. The others, the ones the MIB are in cohoots with, are not our friends. I hope I exlained it better this time. If not, u2u me and I'll give you more info.

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