The APA Says Denying AGW IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!

It is very sad that this is true, but it seems to be. (i am not the autor of the video and do not claim any rights to it)



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Link to the Article: www.apa.org...


Scary stuff. It seems that disagreeing with AGW is now deemed a "psychological issue", and if followed through to its logical conclusion, people could be detained indefinetly against their will, labeled "crazies".

Please keep the discussion on the paper and its ramifications ONLY, this isn't the place for debate on climate change, just lively conversation on this sad happening.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


They want to detain everyone ,and they do not have the man power or the space. They are the crazies. We have them surrounded, and they are scared. Expect more of this.

I sure HOPE this explains that someone is scared.
It appears so.

It's amazing what `they' will try. Definitely a conspiracy, per the link, although I'd stop at the conclusion that they consider it a mental disorder.

The APA is a morally bankrupt organisation. Many psychologists spend their live, trying to help their patients. But the leadership of the APA is corrupt. They bow their heads to people in power. They are enablers of torture. Luckily, the resistance of upright psychologists is growing.

Welcome to PSYCHOLOGISTS FOR AN ETHICAL APA

On November 9, PEAPA members initiated a movement to coordinate a mass resignation from the American Psychological Association (APA) on the part of APA members who are concerned about APA's actions and policies regarding psychologists' participation in interrogations and detention in extra-legal War on Terror prisons, as well as about APA's unresponsiveness to widespread member efforts to change these policies. PEAPA encourages concerned members to read, sign, and circulate the petition, either by emailing it to friends and colleagues or by circulating this pdf-format letter regarding the petition to help spread the word further, and we thank all who participate for your efforts in this regard.

www.ethicalapa.com...

They're taking a page out of big pharma's playbook... invent illnesses to treat and create even more treatments for the side effects of the primary treatment. They know that the politicians will back them on this without so much as a whimper.

It is official the lunatics are running the asylum.

Their whole world is falling apart, the one thing the needed to tie everything together, man-made global warming, has been exposed and people are starting to see it for what it really is.

Makes you wonder why they want to censor the internet. (Not really)

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz



Scary stuff. It seems that disagreeing with AGW is now deemed a "psychological issue", and if followed through to its logical conclusion, people could be detained indefinetly against their will, labeled "crazies".

This is directly out of the 911 OS Handbook.

Any body who question whats in the Kool-Aid , must be crazy.

Seriously , it is very scary to imagine how many people will believe

this to be true.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


Yes it is. If you don't see the climate going worse around you with each passing year, extinction of species, depletion of natural resources, growth in population and pollution then there is something really very wrong with you my friend.

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CRAP I have a mental disorder -- have they made any drugs to fix this problem yet? Is it life threatening? Please I'm worried

Originally posted by '___'omino
CRAP I have a mental disorder -- have they made any drugs to fix this problem yet?

No, you have it all wrong.... it is not a disorder UNTIL there is a drug for it. Only then is it a disorder.


[fibromyalgia, anyone?]

Originally posted by December_Rain
reply to post by Bob Sholtz

 

Yes it is. If you don't see the climate going worse around you with each passing year, extinction of species, depletion of natural resources, growth in population and pollution then there is something really very wrong with you my friend.

[edit on 17-12-2009 by December_Rain]

I don't see how a one child policy and paying carbon taxes to the world's weathiest people will help endangered gorillas. These so called psychologists are using their clout to help some rich greedy people. I wonder how much they were paid. Whatever it was it was too much. The carbon tax people want people to drop dead. Faced with that reality insults and labels have no meaning.

[edit on 17-12-2009 by eradown]

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


While I'm none to happy with several of the new proposed inclusions in the DSM 5, FYI, you do not get "locked up" against your will simply because you have a mental illness, even a severe one. Clinicians MUST certify that you are having very significant problems in 1 (or more) domains: Danger to self, danger to others, or gravely disabled (i.e. sitting at home hallucinating demons that you keep trying to set fire to, no ability to provide basic food & shelter for yourself (even a homeless shelter, etc). They can hold you under a 5150 for 72 hours of observation, but to place a 5250 (a 2 week hold) then you must still meet these requirements. Once this is applied, you are automatically granted a hearing within several days with a judge completely unconnected to whatever hospital you are at where you can plead your case. People win every day over the objections of the hospital, and more often than not, return within days on another 5150 because they still had not yet stabilized but managed to convince the judge they were. So no, you will not be held for being against global warming! (not unless you say your dog told you to kill Al Gore because of it, that is.....).

However, they need to frigging stop making regular life (take your pic of examples) a freaking mental disorder! And making a political viewpoint a mental disorder is a very slippery slope, one the whole world fell off of in the 1930's. A fascinating book, "the Nazi doctors", discusses in depth how the roots of Nazism was found firmly in psychiatry as the definition of mental illness was spread to anyone against the Nazi party (along w/ being gay or developmentally disabled). "Life unworthy of life" was their turn of phrase, a road leading directly to the death camps.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz


With all due respect, Bob, the claim in your thread title -- that the APA says that denying AGW is a "mental disorder" -- is untrue.

The APA merely presented the psychological factors that might prevent a person, who is aware of the reports of AGW, from changing their behavior accordingly.

Among those reasons:

Uncertainty – Research has shown that uncertainty over climate change reduces the frequency of “green” behavior.

Mistrust – Evidence shows that most people don’t believe the risk messages of scientists or government officials.

Denial – A substantial minority of people believe climate change is not occurring or that human activity has little or nothing to do with it, according to various polls.

Undervaluing Risks – A study of more than 3,000 people in 18 countries showed that many people believe environmental conditions will worsen in 25 years. While this may be true, this thinking could lead people to believe that changes can be made later.

Lack of Control – People believe their actions would be too small to make a difference and choose to do nothing.

Habit – Ingrained behaviors are extremely resistant to permanent change while others change slowly. Habit is the most important obstacle to pro-environment behavior, according to the report.

As you said in your OP, this is not a thread for a debate on climate change itself.

That said, none of the above factors are "mental disorders". They merely comprise a list of some aspects of normal behavioral psychology. Most, if not all, can explain the lack of change of behavior in the face of any of a host of changing situations -- including threats.

EDIT TO ADD: What's more interesting about the article is that it presumes that AGW to be an inarguable fact.


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Actually it is a sub-disorder of a much greater problem, which they are attempting to get into the DSM-5

OT -Obama Trauma. It is a crippling disorder where those afflicted fail to understand that Obama is the greatest President in US history and feel compelled to object to any of his socialist agenda.

Fortunately, there is a non-drug therapy. They lock you in a 65 degree room, dress you in a cardigan and make you watch videos of Jimmy Carter and the fantastic accomplishments of his 4 year tenure as POTUS. At the end of the treatment, they drag you home through the streets as they did to our hostages in Tehran When you're out of that room, you'll believe anyone is brilliant.

I think the title of this thread is a little reaching. The APA press release mentions several reasons why the public is not very concerned about climate change.

Denial would probably be the reason that is closest to a mental disorder that they mention. Denial is a major problem.

That said, other reasons mentioned like uncertainty, mistrust, undervaluing risks, lack of control, habit, those do not indicate a mental disorder and the press release does not imply that they do.

reply to post by Bobbox1980


But to deny something it actually has to be happening right? For instance, if your house is burning and you refuse to accept it that would be a major problem because clearly you can see the house is burning.

Now with the case of AGW what exactly is there to "deny" this is science we are talking about and there is no conclusive proof on either side of the issue to say that something is happening either way.

When it comes to AGW the people that speak out against it are not denying anything they are simply expressing an alternate view point that does not jive with the people who own the gold. That is what is called science questioning a hypothesis to see if it stands up to scrutiny.

Originally posted by Bobbox1980
I think the title of this thread is a little reaching. The APA press release mentions several reasons why the public is not very concerned about climate change.

Denial would probably be the reason that is closest to a mental disorder that they mention. Denial is a major problem.

That said, other reasons mentioned like uncertainty, mistrust, undervaluing risks, lack of control, habit, those do not indicate a mental disorder and the press release does not imply that they do.

In her seminal book On Death and Dying Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross studied many terminal patients for a number of years and discovered a pattern of behavior in almost all cases. She described this pattern and broke it down into five stages. Those stages are:

1.) Denial
2.) Anger
3.) Bargaining
4.) Depression
5.) Acceptance

Throughout each of these stages the one common factor that stayed with all the patients was HOPE.

Denial is not a serious problem it is a coping mechanism that is not only found in terminal patients but in other people faced with tragedies or stressful situation. The effects of a broken relationship or loss of love can produce the same five stages as in a terminal patient. Denial is a common coping mechanism that is not a mental illness nor is it a serious problem. It is merely a stage in which people go through attempting to deal with life.

Man, the APA is a #ty psychological organization that designates "sicknesses" on what they don't understand. Up to this point, their stupidity hasn't surprised my in the least.

Hello!

I am Lemon.Fresh, and I have a newly discovered mental disorder. I do not believe in AGW.



[edit on 12/17/2009 by Lemon.Fresh]

Originally posted by kozmo
They're taking a page out of big pharma's playbook... invent illnesses to treat and create even more treatments for the side effects of the primary treatment. They know that the politicians will back them on this without so much as a whimper.

So when can I start receiving the appropriate mail-order dosage of "Greeny Meds" for my "AGW Skepticosis"?