Saudi attacks Yemen

But Iran claims to be poised.
www.jpost.com...

Sneaky basstards Iran is. Gulf of Tonkin didn't work, captured Brit yachtsman didn't work, hikers nothing, caught with ship load of arms didn't matter... seems Iran wants to control the clock. That allows them more time to gather nukes and point their weapons only to claim they are the victim in the end. What does sympathy buy?

What will the response be to Israels offense? Iran will nuke Israel. Then where will Jesus return to? Mission accomplished, eh?

Oh, now add factor anthrax. It seems to be on for Christmas. Or Chaunaka maybe. WMD used... but that may just justify Afghanistan since we are still going by Rand McNally.

This might be the trigger event.

A Big Iraq Attack (not a Big Mac Attack)

ca.news.yahoo.com...

Iranian forces took control of a southern Iraqi oil well on a disputed section of the border on Friday, US and Iraqi officials told AFP.

[edit on 18-12-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by mmiichael
This might be the trigger event.

A Big Iraq Attack (not a Big Mac Attack)

ca.news.yahoo.com...

Iranian forces took control of a southern Iraqi oil well on a disputed section of the border on Friday, US and Iraqi officials told AFP.

[edit on 18-12-2009 by mmiichael]

Noooo. It's a bluff. That oil field is not in operation.
Gulf of Tonkin reversed.
But we are getting close. I can feel it!

Always good to hear the Iranians jabbering away and making baby steps. Means they're nervous, feel helpless, threatened. They notably backed off in their Holy War against Iraq in 1988 when they realized they were pushing too hard and the Americans might step in.

Iran policy has always been to play cat and mouse with the US.

Instead of mugging for the cameras if they ever shut up it will be time to worry.

No sign of that yet.


M

reply to post by mmiichael

They are waiting for the date. Seems they are positioning themselves. We will wear them down a little as minutes are hours and hours are days. Fatigue sets in in about 54 hours.
Sure is fun the watch it unwind. Any predictions on the next headline?

Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by mmiichael

 

They are waiting for the date. Seems they are positioning themselves. We will wear them down a little as minutes are hours and hours are days. Fatigue sets in in about 54 hours.

Sure is fun the watch it unwind. Any predictions on the next headline?

Iran with have to dig into it's bag of tricks. Maybe come up with a new discovery of Mossad spying on them or something. As usual, more sizzle but no steak.

Israel is winning the staring match. They're saying little meaning they're either ready to make a move or unnerving their opponents. My sense is Iran is now worried their bluff will be called. They haven't really gained much threatening Israel.

And now it's Christmas time. They touch one hair on the birthplace of baby Jesus and they'll get bombed back into Stone Age. But Israel hitting Iran now would be a welcomed gift.

Mr A rattles easily. We can count on him saying or doing something stupid. He always comes through.




[edit on 18-12-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by JJay55


Here goes. The beginning of the ME meltdown.
Iran gets busted with nukes Party time.

Woa

Just got in from work , could you please link a source of the

Iranian nukes ?

Originally posted by Sean48
Just got in from work , could you please link a source of the
Iranian nukes?

Pakistan has nukes. Would the people running Pakistan share nukes with Iran?

Problem is it's not clear who actually is running Pakistan.

ca.news.yahoo.com...

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - A spokesman for Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari dismissed on Friday rumours of a coup that started after a government minister suspected of corruption was stopped from leaving the country.

Political tension has risen in Pakistan since the Supreme Court on Wednesday struck down an amnesty that protected Zardari, several of his ministers and thousands of others from corruption charges.

A spokesman for the state anti-graft agency said on Thursday the names of about 248 people had been placed on a list of people barred from leaving the country.

The spokesman did not identify any of those on the list but Defense Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar, was one of them, said the president's spokesman, Farhatullah Babar.

"The name of the Defense minister happens to be on the list and he was not allowed to go," said Babar, adding he believed Mukhtar had been on his way to China late on Thursday when stopped.

Rumours of a coup started, apparently, when Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, told CNN in an interview he hoped there would not be a coup. The rumours swirled briefly in forex markets.

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Originally posted by mmiichael
Israel is winning the staring match. They're saying little meaning they're either ready to make a move or unnerving their opponents. My sense is Iran is now worried their bluff will be called. They haven't really gained much threatening Israel.

And now it's Christmas time. They touch one hair on the birthplace of baby Jesus and they'll get bombed back into Stone Age. But Israel hitting Iran now would be a welcomed gift.

Mr. A isn't in charge.
Yes, interesting psychological stare off match. Israel has alway been better. Intimidation is interesting when it comes in different flavors.

Glad you mentioned Christmas. Christian holidays have always been AQ target dates as symbolism. What if Iran doesn't hit Israel but another target? They have been taking out First Responders in Baghdad (symbol of... something original Caliphate related... I can't remember) which is the same mo as Mumbai, 911. Who does the US have there now? Didn't everyone move to Afg and leave behind Barney to watch the place?
Meanwhile Saudi Yemen operation is also pulling us in another direction.

This goes along with Pak/Iran having nukes. Islam is one unit. All the 57 OIC countries work together as one unit. What's Pakistans and Irans and Libya's is ultimately possessions of Islam and thus under the control of one head of state: Saudi. If the word is given for Pak to sacrifice for Iran then it will happen. If it means the lives of everyone in Pak, that's ok. If it means the lives of everyone in Iran, it's ok. Islam wins because they have acted in the name of Allah and it is what Allah wanted.
AQ=Pak=Iran=Jordan=Libya=Egypt=Palestine=Islam. One unit, one Caliphate, dar ul Islam.

Christmas=the West.
And there's something about Chaunakah too... but I can't pinpoint it. Take the last number 6 and turn it upside down, what does that mean? What should have been in front is now behind. A riddle.

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Tag team. Well done sir.

www.cnn.com..."(CNN) -- An airstrike in Yemen earlier this week killed a leading al Qaeda figure there, a Yemeni government official said Friday.
The official, who is not named because he is not authorized to speak to the media, told CNN that Mohammed Saleh Mohammed Ali Al-Kazemi was killed in an airstrike in the southern province of Abyan on Thursday, along with "scores of operatives."
Al-Kazemi, also known as AbuSaleh Aljadwe, was a deputy in an al Qaeda cell in Abyan, the official said.
The airstrike was accompanied by raids in Abyan and in Yemen's capital Sanaa, state news agency SABA reported Thursday.
"This was the most large scale and substantial attack carried out against al Qaeda in Yemen this year," the official said."

Saudi is allowing us to go after these guys. Why?
Are we cleaning up their criminal element for them?
Will they be handed the Caliphate without having to fight for it?

Originally posted by JJay55
Islam is one unit. All the 57 OIC countries work together as one unit. What's Pakistans and Irans and Libya's is ultimately possessions of Islam and thus under the control of one head of state: Saudi. If the word is given for Pak to sacrifice for Iran then it will happen. If it means the lives of everyone in Pak, that's ok. If it means the lives of everyone in Iran, it's ok. Islam wins because they have acted in the name of Allah and it is what Allah wanted.

AQ=Pak=Iran=Jordan=Libya=Egypt=Palestine=Islam. One unit, one Caliphate, dar ul Islam.

Jjay,

While I don't totally dispute this claim, I do wonder how consolidated the entire Muslim world and it's leaders really are.

They can claim the Christian West is working as a unit to exploit Middle East resources and there is some truth to that as well. But we all know internal conflicts, rivalries, factions, develop in any seemingly unified front.

Look at the Saudi royal family and its thousands of princes. Severe fracturing within. A failed coup of a group of princes aligned with Bandar just recently. Ongoing lineage war for Abdullah's succession.

More than with others, there is a Muslim cultural predisposition to internal conflict, rivalries, jealousy, mistrust.

One of the classic symptoms of self-destruct is the inability of all parties to work co-operatively towards a common goal. Notably the two polar powers in the Middle East, have had conflict not from the outside but within. Iraq declared war on Iran, Iran declared war on Iraq, Iraq tried to take over Kuwait and was making moves on the Saudis, the Saudis are fighting in Yemen now against Iranians.

The West has looked on and seen half a century of internal strife. The bet has been the Muslim world can never get their act together. Work as a team.

You think they are co-ordinating their actions on a set program. Maybe they are. Or maybe they are trying hard to, without complete success.

Mike

Originally posted by mmiichael
You think they are co-ordinating their actions on a set program. Maybe they are. Or maybe they are trying hard to, without complete success.

Mike

Without a doubt, yes they are functioning as one unit.

Oopsie. Missed him.
www.latimes.com...
"Sana, Yemen - A U.S.-born radical cleric is alive after reports he may have been killed in a Yemeni airstrike against a suspected Al Qaeda hide-out, friends and relatives said Friday."

More proof that Saudi intelligence isn't cooperating with the US effort to capture or kill AQ operatives. Hmmmmmm.

Today's top terrorist story is Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab who unsuccessfully tried to set off a liquid bomb onboard an airbus landing in Detroit. Only harm done is he burned his pants and crotch.

Irony is he's a rich kid who went to London for an education. His father is a Nigerian banker - which makes me snicker. I get a lot of emails from Nigerian bankers offering millions.

Interestingly he has spent the last year in "training" in Yemen. And he is being linked with that same guy who seems to have networked with everybody including the Ft Hood shooter and 9/11 hijackers.

www.telegraph.co.uk...
On completing his degree, Abdulmutallab was believed to have moved to Yemen, where he was further radicalised and allegedly underwent some form of training culminating in the failed terrorism attempt.

Abdulmutallab was issued with a visa to the US on June 16 last year, coinciding with the completion of his UCL course. The visa was valid until June 12, 2010. His reason given for visiting the US was to attend a religious ceremony.

The source said: “After school at a top establishment in west Africa, Umar was sent to London to college. But when his degree course ended, he ‘disappeared’ to Yemen, where he was being taught Arabic. His family are suggesting he probably got recruited in London but became radicalised in Yemen. He had been in Yemen for about a year or even a year and a half although during that period he had flown between Yemen, Nigeria and the UK.”

Yemen is fast becoming the breeding ground for jihadists. Pete Hoekstra, the senior Republican on the US House Intelligence Committee, said he had information that the suspect may have had contact with a radical imam based in Yemen who had ties to the suspected gunman in the Fort Hood killings in Texas.

Abdulmutallab is reported to have told authorities that the explosive device was acquired in Yemen along with instructions on when it was to be used from al-Qaeda operatives, although it is claimed he later withdrew that remark.

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Oh terrorist can't possibly be connected, they are just some random psychos. heh.
I don't know if the West is ready to accept what Islam is up to. It might be too late before civilization changes drastically in the next decade.

Update:
www.foxnews.com... d&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20foxnews%2Fpolitics%20%28FOXNews.com%20-%20Politics%29&utm_content=My%20Yahoo

"Yemen has been a trouble spot for a long time. In 2000, the USS Cole was attacked in the Yemeni port of Aden. Seventeen U.S. sailors were killed. All the defendants connected to the Cole bombing were released by Yemeni authorities or broke out of Yemeni jails by May 2008.

"The Yemeni government now is facing three confrontations -- one with the south, one with Al Qaeda and one in the north" that is supported by the Iranians as part of its proxy war with the West and U.S. ally Saudi Arabia, said terrorism expert Walid Phares."

So another of the 57 OIC countries is a hotspot. How many more hotspots do we need in Islam before this madness ends?

This is what's funny about this article. The writer doesn't understand taqiyya. The real goal is to extort money from the US with empty promises because Yemen would never really (officially) for real ask AQ to quit their mission.

news.antiwar.com...

"Faced with an unwelcome level of attention in its newfound war against al-Qaeda, the Yemeni government is now taking the virtually unprecedented step of suggesting they would be willing to come to some sort of deal with the international terror organization.
The only conditions, according to President Ali Abdullah Saleh, is that the members of the group lay down their weapons and formally renounce violence. So far there has been no response from the al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula faction."

This is like a freeking soap opera.
news.antiwar.com...
“On January 3, the Yemeni government mocked the threat posed by al-Qaeda as “exaggerated,” in the wake of announcements that both the US and Britain intended to close their Yemeni embassies.
Two days later they claimed thousands of troops were fighting al-Qaeda and that the group was on the run. The US praised the move and reopened their embassy, giving the impression that Yemen had somehow successfully “tackled” a global threat in a matter of 48 hours”

So it's on, it's off. Sound familiar????