TEQUILAsunrise - AKA Norway Spiral - Proof it was a scientific experiment.

reply to post by Phage

I'm not for sure whether HAARP is capable of all out "mind control," however, it is only natural that the manipulation of long and short wave radiation on a mass scale can adversely affect the neurological behavior of animals or humans.

If one actually took the time to fine tune and dial in certain frequencies, I'm sure some form of mind control could actually be achieved, even if it was simple behavior modification.

I contacted the researcher mentioned here by e-mail. He denied that EISCAT experiment was responsible for the spiral effect.

He said their experiment took place 10 minutes after the spiral light phenomena, and pointed out that it was prolly the russian missile experiment that caused the phenomena.

-v

reply to post by danman23


It was during the earthquake, all at the same time my friend. Imagine how much people had to change underwear after this "combo" event.

reply to post by v01i0


So? Tinfoilhatmode on:
How reliable is the message from any researcher in this case, if the working hypothesis is that the EISCAT is somehow involved with this? Be it by direct heating, be it by means of seeding the ionosphere beforehands with some particles from a "weatherrocket" and bringing that to glow, and so on. Ever heard of something like a gag order ?

This whole talk of EISCAT and HAARP is getting a bit ridiculous now. They are what the government says they are. The government never develops a secret weapon of that scale right under the nose of civilians and then tries it out near a populated area for everyone to see. I mean come on, they arent that stupid.

reply to post by Pryde87


They do everything right in front of our noses
because it is humans who are too stupid to notice- lost in ipods, video games, kirsty alley's weight and the new free safety just signed

it is what makes ATS such a special place for anyone who can "see"- this is one of the few places where such people can discuss what is really happening in our world

reply to post by ph00nknzarrk


Your reply to me is like I would be suggesting that my initial post was some kind of refuttal of EISCAT theory. No, it is not my opinion nor belief for I don't have one, I just reported what the researcher involved in the case replied to my e-mail.

I think that the timeline can be verified if needed.

-v

reply to post by v01i0


I meant no harm, to sound harsh, aggressive, or something along those lines. I just had to ask ;-)

btw. i do know of this, i followed this thread and others, regarding this phenomenon. It's just no more valid than statements from other parties, given the fact i put some value in doubting them.

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reply to post by Pryde87

I mean come on, they arent that stupid.

And to make a low fly in new york with a jumbo jet to take picture.
isn't stupid ?

is this the correct location of the photographer of this pic??

www.vg.no...

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reply to post by Hermes8

They do everything right in front of our noses because it is humans who are too stupid to notice

Every once in while they allow a naval base to be bombed despite having prior knowledge in order to engage in a world war
(submarine warnings prior to Pearl Harbor/ WWII)

Every once in a while they start a police action based upon a lie
(Gulf of Tonkin/Vietnam)

Every once in a while they start a police action based upon a lie
(Directional drilling in Kuwait/Iraq I)

Every once in a while they start a police action based upon a lie
(No WMD's/Iraq II)

Every once in a while they start a police action based upon a lie
(Bin Ladin was a CIA asset until the day of 911/Afghanistan)
(BTW... OPIUM anyone?)

Every once in a while they blow up 3 buildings in order to start a phony war on a faceless enemy that will never end
(911/"War on Terror"tm)

Every once in a while they give minorities diseases just to see what happens
(Tuskeegee Syphilis Experiments/War on Black People)
(Crack/War on Black People)
(Small Pox filled blankets/War on Native Americans)

Every once in a while they contract the Bill of Rights to the Federal Government. Rights that we were already guaranteed through the Constitution
(14th amendment/we are property of the Federal Government/Reserve)

Shall I continue....

The governments of the world never lie, so I am 100% SURE that the "official" storyline that this spiral was produced by a "rocket" is 100% true.

Trust the government.....
It's much easier than dissent. And a lot less stressful too.

Now....

Here is some Prozac. Go back to sleep.

reply to post by hateeternal

Almost. As far as i can see it, the so called Dampskipskaia where this picture is taken from, is under the southern bridge, not between them.

citymap with Dampskipskaia

maps.bing.com... has very good aerials from that when you zoom into Norway at first, then Tromsø and search for "Samuel Arnesens Gate". That's the Streetname of the Dampskipskaia.

Oops. The northern bridge seems to be a tunnel, so much for streetoverlays into aerials :-)
Doesn't matter in this case though, you have two lines connecting the island with the mainland, and this Dampskipskaia is under the southern line.

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reply to post by hateeternal


Stars for you brother. Emerson great pictures.

(That is southern for "them are some").

Seriously.

How in the world can a rocket lose control and form a perfect spiral?

What are the odds?

Any math buffs in here want to take a shot at the actual mathematical probability that a rocket that has "lost control" will produce this absolutely, spot-on, perfect spiral shape?

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reply to post by Josephus23

Here is some Prozac. Go back to sleep.

always the same old blue or red pill story

May I had JFK in your list. really basic conspiracy theory

An allege video of the EISCAT test. Look familiar?



In fact, numerous chatting is suggesting the Norway incident was EISCAT. Anyway of accessing the log and data of the test? (not in the public domain, I fear)

Another picture(s) of a previous EISCAT test...

reply to post by v01i0


You are spot on my friend. Stars for you.

Anything concerning this spirally bluish thingy is speculation.

ANYTHING.

I enjoy speculating as much as the next guy, but talking down to someone and treating them like they are an idiot for simply having a belief that someone disagrees with is both childish and shows a bit of arrested development IMHO, but yet, it seems as though several of the adults on this board love to demean others simply for what they believe concerning issues that cannot be quantified nor qualified.

Methinks that it is most likely due to extreme low self-esteem.




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Oh if only rational minds ruled the day here on ATS, we might actually learn something. Instead we have people banging on about how HAARP and EISCAT are weapons (even though neither doesn't have anything even close to weaponry in its entire facility). It's getting pathetic.

Yeah, governments have made stupid mistakes in the past, and they've even mislead people, but that doesn't mean to say you should start running around waving your hands in the air every time they say something unless you have evidence. I'm sure it's fun playing at Mulder and Scully, but you actually have to perform critical, rigorous research, or you don't learn a single thing.

People wonder why 'conspiracy theorists' are laughed at, and the answer is simple - very often conspiracy theorists have what seems like a complete disdain for rational thought. And this thread demonstrates that very well indeed.

reply to post by mixmix


What if Neo was some smack head who was jonesin' really badly and decided to take both pills at the same time.

The more the better.
You know what I mean?

reply to post by davesidious


Couldnt have said it better!

Star for you!

reply to post by infinite


alleged
are you sure ?