Moon Landing Hoax? - Judge Yourself

I think the NO FLAME whilst the Lunar Module departed from the moon requires a Thread on its own...

Here is the story..

Skeptics pointed out that no flames were visible when the lunar module left the moon...and erm...they were right..there were NO flames..have a look



The Nasa Sheeple counter attacked with stating that no Flames were visible in space since there is no Oxygen

as stated in their beloved...

www.badastronomy.com...

this didnt make any sense to me since...if something need Oxygen to produce a flame and Oxygen is not present than it will not burn at all...like a candle flame...if you cut the Oxygen supply it will just stop burning..

Thus You can have a look here that Flames are visible in space...have a look

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are these not flames???

and guess what ...FLAMES are pretty common in space..

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so the only thing that for now that burn without a flame was the Lunar Module...aha..now thats fishy

lets see that again....

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yes..no flames...it just flies on its own...HAVE A HEINEKEN

Originally posted by heineken

Skeptics pointed out that no flames were visible when the lunar module left the moon...and erm...they were right..there were NO flames..

Obviously you did not know that when a 1:1 mixture of methyl hydrazine, H3CNHNH2, and 1,1-dimethylhydrazine, (H3C)2NNH2, with liquid dinitrogen tetroxide, N2O4 is mixed together it burns with no visible flame....

The initial fire pulse shot it up high enough for gravity to diminish and then NASA said "Kick over" meaning to start their own thrusters. Does this video go on longer? It seems it's cut off right at the time the fire of the thrusters would be visible.

I would like to point out that I don't have an overall say either way whether the U.S. went to the moon and my statement is only to do with this one video.


[edit on 14-12-2009 by Thermo Klein]

The rocket separation is taken in the upper stratosphere correct? I'm not sure that qualifies as space. The sun also does not qualify as space, it is in space, but it is not space. The sun is not a vacuum it has an environment.

reply to post by dereks


thats what they tell you..have you tried it yourself?

Originally posted by Seiko
The rocket separation is taken in the upper stratosphere correct? I'm not sure that qualifies as space. The sun also does not qualify as space, it is in space, but it is not space. The sun is not a vacuum it has an environment.

you can try and breath over there...tell us if its fresh

reply to post by heineken


Now you're just being facetious. I never said it had an earth type environment.

Show us a video of a spaceship with flames coming out of it in the vacuum of space so that we may compare.

Originally posted by Seiko
reply to post by heineken

 

Now you're just being facetious. I never said it had an earth type environment.

Show us a video of a spaceship with flames coming out of it in the vacuum of space so that we may compare.

if there are i will post them..but it didnt happen yet

reply to post by heineken


Your being obtuse on purpose, surely.

We don't have to prove this to you - you were in another thread where this was explained to you in great depth why there was no flame when the ascender launched. An initial explosion separated the bolts holding the two pieces of the lander together, after which an engine fired, launching the ship off the moon. There is no smoke or flame because of the fuel used. The smoke in the picture you showed is because the rocket is still in the, albeit rarefied, atmosphere.

Clearly it would help you if you learned a bit about things you find odd or confusing, before plastering ATS with post after post after post of you simply not understanding phenomenon millions of people around the world have no problem grasping.

Besides the missing flames who filmed the take-off of the Lunar module? I don't think this was filmed remote.

i found this...

Hypergolic propellants happen to produce a nearly transparent exhaust

nearly none

i just wanna know if its true man went on the moon

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by heineken

 

Your being obtuse on purpose, surely.

We don't have to prove this to you - you were in another thread where this was explained to you in great depth why there was no flame when the ascender launched. An initial explosion separated the bolts holding the two pieces of the lander together, after which an engine fired, launching the ship off the moon. There is no smoke or flame because of the fuel used. The smoke in the picture you showed is because the rocket is still in the, albeit rarefied, atmosphere.

Clearly it would help you if you learned a bit about things you find odd or confusing, before plastering ATS with post after post after post of you simply not understanding phenomenon millions of people around the world have no problem grasping.

first it was said because of no Oxygen persent...now because of the Fuel used...i dont like it when explanations change

Originally posted by JFletcher
Besides the missing flames who filmed the take-off of the Lunar module? I don't think this was filmed remote.

What makes you think there was a guy filming from the moon?

A short video clip from a documentary describing the remote operation of the LRV television camera:
www.hq.nasa.gov...

The ascent of Apollo 15 from the same camera:
www.hq.nasa.gov...

The ascent of Apollo 16, where you can see the tilt upwards was started too late to follow the ascent:
www.hq.nasa.gov...

The ascent of Apollo 17, which was captured much better:
www.hq.nasa.gov...

also i couldnt find any footage of this fuel burning...can someone halp out..they must have tested before sending man on another planet

Look at the 11-12 second mark and you will see your blast. Don't forget that the Moon has very little gravity compared to Earth and therefore does not need as much thrust to lift-off and enter orbit....

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I think we went to the Moon, I'm just not entirely sure that we were told everything that they found there.

How many year later? How many beers later? How many times has this dead horse been beaten to death? We were there, me and the whole nation sat glued to the television and watched. It was all people were talking about.

THE TRUTH WILL EMERGE ONE DAY...

Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon

Japanese Orbiter Finds No Evidence Apollo Missions Landed On Moon

India’s lunar mission finds evidence of water on the Moon

none of which we ever knew it was true

and keep in mind...all this emerging truth about the moon was aquired with an UNMANNED mission...guess what ...with man over there we had less evidence...is that not curious for you?

Originally posted by expat2368
How many year later? How many beers later? How many times has this dead horse been beaten to death? We were there, me and the whole nation sat glued to the television and watched. It was all people were talking about.

ahha...thank you...so because it was on TV its true..didnt grasp that...shame on me

Originally posted by Kryties
Look at the 11-12 second mark and you will see your blast. Don't forget that the Moon has very little gravity compared to Earth and therefore does not need as much thrust to lift-off and enter orbit....

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/66987a091cf9.png[/atsimg]

I think we went to the Moon, I'm just not entirely sure that we were told everything that they found there.

AAAAAAAAAA..now there are the flames



so first...

NO FLAMES BECAUSE NO OXYGEN

than

NO FLAMES BECAUSE OF THE FUEL USED

than

LITLLE FLAMES ARE NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE GRAVITY ON THE MOON

will you believe your spouse if he/she changed his/her excuse so often??

neither i will believe you sorry

for me its easy...

WHO KNEW ABOUT LIFE ON THE MOON???

WHO KNEW ABOUT WATER ON THE MOON???

werent we suppose to know having sent man there?, we had to wait for the Indians to tell us??