U.S. Secretary of State reports alien bodies in Capitol building in 1939?

Originally posted by john124
reply to post by dragonsmusic

 

Why not tell us all why it's fake?
Instead of just spitting something out without sense.

I have to agree with that other guy about it being a fake - this is another tall-story. Don't you all get sick of people expecting you to believe something on the basis of prior father-daughter confidentiality, or an affidavit left by the dead?


[edit on 13-12-2009 by john124]

I didn't care about the first guy's opinion
What makes you think I would care about yours?
Neither post has substance; neither one offers anything.

reply to post by expat2368


Keep in mind that we were on the verge of joining a world war already in play.

Then, just as today, that disk--the report makes it sound like a desktop thing--would have a very top secret label attached.

Who know, some thing or part therein may have given a boost for the atomic bomb being developed.

Everybody seems to assume that the crash happened in 1939. Suppose it happened much earlier and the remains had been in that place for years, even decades? Those artifacts would have been more or less museum pieces. How best to preserve the data of the fact than in a secure place in the nation's capital?

Few people that know UFOs believe that 1947 was the crowning moment of their arrival to this place. That is rather stupid thinking: They came. They crashed!? Of course, they have been coming for for a time, probably a long time, probably a very long time. Even to say they arrived in 1939...and crashed is rather idiotic thinking.

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
Well this would lend credence to a theory that the Roswell crash was actually a US craft that crashed and the it was a UFO was just a cover story. Interesting stuff all and all.

While I doubt that the way you express it is correct, there's no doubt that what came down, NOT crashed was certainly something manufactured by the U.S. Nothing to do with a UFO.

The fantasy that a UFO crashed near Roswell (not really, it was FAR from Roswell) is kept alive by the gullible for there is no evidence whatsoever than an alien craft crashed or that there were alien bodies or that said craft was taken somewhere to be reverse-engineered.

Where is the irrefutable evidence to support a UFO crash anywhere on planet earth?

Originally posted by bananasam
Nice information. Wasn't this before all the black budget operations are thought to have took control of the situation?

Also, if this is true, does this change the notion that we uncovered the origins and technologies at Roswell, when in fact it was already discovered?

we could have been more involved in roswell then we know..

For all we know, we used a alien tech to shoot down the crashed ufo at roswell and held those still alive captive, yet allowed them to contact their people in order for us to gain some tech and leverage in exchange for this being to return home.....


If this event happened in 1939, then how long do you think they were kept there?

How long before this had people of this world known of others from another world ?

How many more incidents happened and were covered up that we don't know about, from before even 1939 ?



I think the truth about everything would really shake our illusion to the core..

I believe the older ladies. I don't believe this is fake. They are talking about someone who is family, and usually people don't start attaching to dead family members such stories, especially when there is more then one family member saying the same thing.

Its what they were told, and they did what they were told to do. They waited past the deaths of the men in question, and at their advanced age have no reason to just come up with this at the expense of a family members reputation.


Good one. Str'd and flg'd

I believe them. I have no knowledge of any of it really...but by going on just a feeling, I totally believe them.

3rd hand stories are much nicer then say a 2000 year old story. But still could be just that, a story...


S&F

I aswell will agree this story seems from the heart and very genuine, these ladies speak with a tremendous story of which seems credible, the fact this man held the information on only to be passed down near his death is enough to give me no doubt...

It seems these non-terrestrial beings have some form of nano-atomic precision in the formation of their ships material, making them light weight yet assembled atom by atom, very thin but yet very strong... the beings themselves floating in jars of chemical... I wouldn't doubt that either... amazing story...

We should not try and jump onto a band wagon and just bluntly believe that these beings in the basement are aliens? For all that we know, it can be easier to believe that these beings are human fabricated designs rather than aliens.

Aliens floating in jars in a room next to a flying saucer...

It's all a bit Independence Day in't it? (Released 3 years prior to this revelation BTW).

Also, how the hell would they manage to get a whole space ship into a sub basement without totally dismantling it? They wouldn't want to risk that, as they would want to study it in the best condition they could. They could not be totally convinced of being able to re-assemble it afterwards. Surely an aircraft hangar would be much easier and just as effective.

It's a nice story that I would love to believe, but it simply has too many holes.

hmmm. Interesting. I don't think its a hoax, but there is a significant lack of evidence regarding the aliens in topic. What happened to them? Maybe more will come out later...?

No matter how many fuzzy videos I watch or 'experts' testifying 'facts' or 'witnesses' giving their accounts, I think I'll always find this entertaining in the end and forever be one of those believe-it-when-I-see-it types. And, when I say "see it," I don't mean some strange lights in the sky on a foggy night; it would take something much more 'revealing' than that.

It doesn't really do any of us any good even if all these are true. Nothing has really changed to make my life any better, other than passing the time and saying "Hmm" and wondering a lot. I enjoy the videos, but ultimately if I had to bet my life on it, I'd have to play it safe and say, Nope.

And, if I did see a craft doing things thought impossible, why would I really have to believe in aliens as well? Why not believe it's just another government secret? (You know they hide everything that is significantly better or potentially damaging.)

For some of us, I think the belief in aliens comes first, then, from that, the belief in UFOs. So, when they hear of a UFO sighting or swear they actually have seen one, they assume it must be the creation of an alien. But, our government and its organizations operate in such secrecy that such a craft could exist and they could keep it a secret, then use aliens to confuse everyone so that they can safely keep their secrets without any pressure to answer for such things because, aliens built them (not "us"). It really becomes very complicated, like a double agent, triple agenct, etc, plot / game.

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by spinkyboo
Yep - the "so what" comment is ludicrous.

So what?!
This is big.

How is this big? It is a third-hand story at best. There is no evidence, nothing to corroborate the story. Nothing. All you have is a story you want to hear.

I agree. Every UFO story I've ever seen is always a "Trust me! I've seen it!" or "Trust me! My documents prove it!"

Try using that in court to prove something: "I have a witness that saw it all happen, therefore I win the case." - not.

It might take me being "beamed up" before I believe. Then, I can come here and tell my story and have it denied because I have no proof.

What is time? - We are living in 2009 at present, we believe that everything around us has been made by our hands and our technology and our way of thinking. Life exists on many many planes and ours is now.

If this story is true then what were the events leading up to these bodies being created/put in to these containers and why?

Shadow governments - Puppet Governments - Illuminati - NWO all equal to the same thing, and that is something so far advanced within its own knowledge of life itself its ALMOST impossible for us HUMANS to comprehend it let alone defend ourselves from.

1947 Roswell is a starting point for 'life' explorers because there is sufficient data that we can piece together but all of 'this' from what I understand, has been going on much longer than we realise and can comprehend.

It doesn't suprise me at all that TPTB at that time were aware of 'life' outside of the box. After all what is time? and how did TPTB get in to their positions after all?

Its one hell of a coincedence to see that many of our government leaders and disciples all knew each other when they were younger.....Isn't it?

[edit on 14-12-2009 by franspeakfree]

There is an apparent alien buried in a graveyard in Texas, who was a captain of a UFO that crashed in 1887. The details are actually marked on the sign, leading into the cometary.

Ask Jim Marrs, it was in a documentary he was featuring in.

reply to post by JunoJive


Now this is exactly what I have thought of the War of the Worlds broadcast. A way to judge the reaction of humanity if aliens were discovered to exist. Now, the manner in which it was portrayed (alien rampage, death) was not exactly what I would do, because if aliens were to be announced I would think it would be more civilized, and if aliens were attacking us, well we would probably see it on UTube and other sites long before any disclosure from TPTB. On the other hand, as I look into my de-magnifying glass through the cosmos outside of my petri dish existence, is that a giant eyeball I see staring back down at me?

Originally posted by dragonsmusic
I didn't care about the first guy's opinion
What makes you think I would care about yours?
Neither post has substance; neither one offers anything.

Much like this story you've chosen to believe. It has nothing. No evidence, nothing to corroborate it, nothing. It is just a story. But it's a story you want to hear so you are accepting it without question. Then you are sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen to any critique.

in the u.s alien is everything outside of the boarders.

pretty much all of u.s military tech from pre ww2 and onwards is "alien" tech

The year given is the year the bodies and ship were shown off to the man, not the year they were recovered and placed in the Capitol building. Where do you suppose it would be placed if recovered in 1910? There were no airfields and/or hangars anywhere in 1910 were there? It may have been viewed in 1939 but who is to say when it was recovered. 1903? 1875? 1855?

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by karl 12
Credibility of witnesses always is one of the main proving grounds when anything like this is revealed. The amazing thing is that both of the principals involved, Secretary of State Cordell Hull and Reverend Turner Hamilton Holt, Th.D, had impeccable credentials as intelligent and honest men.

But so what? They are not the ones making the claim, it is Holt's daughter.

This is the most important post in this thread.

Being credible doesn't make your kids credible.