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UFO Pyramid Over Kremlin in Moskow?

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posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Imagir
reply to post by Arbitrageur
 


OUT of FOCUS.

Try again.


Focus here is unchanged from the previous frames where the power line was visible. And in this frame you can see both the power line and top of the building in the distance, both are as in focus as you get in this perspective with this camera and lighting conditions.

If you mean the pyramid is out of focus, that's possible but that would mean it's in front of the power line. If the pyramid is where it's claimed to be, then it should be in focus just like the building.

And you didn't address the CG artifacts.

[edit on 5-2-2010 by Arbitrageur]



posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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reply to post by Arbitrageur
 


Your point already debated previously.

It is OUT of FOCUS.



posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 06:21 PM
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that point because the only thing that looks like it might be out of focus to me is the pyramid. The power line and the building in the background are in focus, at least as good as it gets in this footage.



posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Imagir
reply to post by Arbitrageur
 


Your point already debated previously.

It is OUT of FOCUS.


G'day me ol' mate Imagir

It's your skeptical ol' mate Maybe...maybe not.

That Moscow UFO is just a CGI construct.....there was never anything real there.

But you keep looking & posting & I'll keep reading!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Imagir
reply to post by Arbitrageur
 


Your point already debated previously.

It is OUT of FOCUS.


G'day me ol' mate Imagir

It's your skeptical ol' mate Maybe...maybe not.

That Moscow UFO is just a CGI construct.....there was never anything real there.

But you keep looking & posting & I'll keep reading!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


G'day to you my skeptical friend.

As already analyzed, (check in the thread) by skilled members, this is not a CGI.

No scientific (video-graphic) evidence of a CGI.

But if at least it is a Hoax (and it isn't) it is a verry, very expensive!
Too much expensive (tens of thousand dollars) for one minute of a anonimous video on Youtube.

[edit on 6-2-2010 by Imagir]



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 01:57 AM
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Ummm.....

You didn't say anything.....



Cheers



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Imagir
 


Ummm.....

You didn't say anything.....



Cheers


Ummm....

You say only your skeptical opinion....




posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Imagir
But if at least it is a Hoax (and it isn't) it is a verry, very expensive!
Too much expensive (tens of thousand dollars) for one minute of a anonimous video on Youtube.


You might have a point that if you hired someone to do it, you would have to pay someone a fair amount to do this for you,

But there are people sitting around with time on their hands and CG software on their PCs who could do this without paying anyone else to do it for them, in which case it wouldn't cost them anything more than they already spent on their PC and software, just some time.



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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Your personal opinion.

Again: It is NOT CGI.

Already analyzed.



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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It seems you are conveniently ignoring some facts regarding this case that were
already posted in this thread. For example I posted the results of an investigation /
study made by the russian researchers presented in a large detailed analysis that
concluded the case is a hoax, the videos are CGI. Now, these are real researchers who
made their homework in Russia where this case was originated and their investigation
is serious based in facts that can't be denied.

If you take time to read the whole analysis following the links I posted you will get
those facts you are requesting so insistently. They even posted a photo of the actual
location of the daytime video revealing it was a different place, check the photo.

Take your time and read this final result of the russian investigation of this case.

Translated to english. (Give it some seconds to load translation and images)



My post with other links and images.



The original in russian.



Finally, you claim somebody made an analysis to the video and found no traces of CGI.
Can you post again the link to evaluate his work. Have a nice day.



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 12:14 PM
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reply to post by free_spirit
 


Thanks for the links.
I check.



posted on Feb, 7 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by free_spirit
reply to post by Imagir
 


It seems you are conveniently ignoring some facts regarding this case that were
already posted in this thread.
....
Translated to english. (Give it some seconds to load translation and images)



My post with other links and images.



Thanks for pointing this out Free Spirit. That translation of the Russian site is a little hard to read in English but the screencaps and animations they posted tell the story in any language, and confirm convincingly the earlier post I made:


Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Also watch the video right around the 13 second mark, and it looks like there are CG artifacts where maybe they tried to keep the power line in front of the pyramid but the power line or an artifact that looks like an attempt to simulate the power line, is actually jumping around, not across the whole video, only the bit in front of the pyramid.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/28487c8e4f79.gif[/atsimg]
That's from the link Free Spirit provided and it shows exactly what I was referring to. First the wire isn't there at all in front of the pyramid, then suddenly the wire appears but as the camera pans they try to keep the wire where it should be, but fail and move the wire at the WRONG RATE!!!!!!!

This alone is convincing proof of CG. But that Russian site also found a lot of other discrepancies I didn't notice to confirm even further that it's CG! Thanks again Free Spirit!

[edit on 7-2-2010 by Arbitrageur]



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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G'day Arbitrageur

Springer banned the op.

Chadwickus picked it.

Imagir is Taymour (plus about 8 other identities that have been banned as well).

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 03:50 AM
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Thanks for the heads up.

I'm more than happy to debate others' viewpoints but when they don't listen at all to CGI proof, then it's not really a debate, it's more like trolling.

So I can't say I'm surprised but thanks for the heads up.



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 05:11 AM
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No?Did u know the pyramids were built with the help of annanukas
?



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Arbitrageur
 


G'day Arbitrageur

Springer banned the op.

Chadwickus picked it.

Imagir is Taymour (plus about 8 other identities that have been banned as well).

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


Just for my own info, did Imagir get banned for posting the Moskow Pyramid video? Or for having 8 other identities?
Just wondering in case I ever ponder posting a weird video on ATS...



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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Multiple hoaxer with multiple accounts.

See this post by Springer:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You won't get banned for posting a video, unless you post it knowing it's a fake and try to pass it off as real.

[edit on 8/2/10 by Chadwickus]



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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G'day Mythified

As per Chadwickus whose relentlessly sharp "radar" picked this up again.....

He has been here hoaxing with approx 8-9 names.

His "Taymour" identity was the one everybody seemed to know the best.

If you look at "Taymour's" threads via his profile page, you should be able to see some of that troublesome material.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Feb, 8 2010 @ 02:05 PM
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MOD NOTE:

Please do not discuss the status of members and keep to the topic. From here on out, all OT posts will be actioned or the thread closed if it keeps up

Thank you.



[edit on February 9th 2010 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Here's a pretty good analysis of the Kremlin Pyramid.



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