Gorbachev Exposes Global Communist Environmentalism Conspiracy.

(part 2)
So, the race was on to see which side could bring about the NWO first, no holds barred. Reagan, representing the Fascists, was elected by making a deal with the Iranians to end negotiations with Carter and to hold the hostages until Reagan took office. Sure enough, Carter's inability to free the hostages lost him re-election, and Reagan's first act as prez was to have 14 truckloads of TOE missiles shipped from Israel to Iran. But when Congress investigated, Lee Hamilton and Dick Cheney (Democrat and Republican co-chairs) didn't find anything to report.

As part of the effort toward building the NWO, it was decided that the US population would not go along with such a plan unless they were desperate. Also, poorer countries like China and India would have to be bribed into joining a plot that was largely being hatched by international bankers and multinational corporations. Thus, Reagan began the dismantling of the US economy, that was continued under Clinton with the passage of NAFTA and the WTO. In fact, Clinton won a lot of corporate support for the Socialists by pushing the free trade agenda. By the time of the 2000 election, both the Fascists and the Socialists had their respective global strategies in place. Al Gore would use Global Warming to unite the world under a Socialist one world government. Meanwhile, Bush (actually Cheney) had plans in place (ala the neo-con PNAC enterprise) to use the threat of “global terrorism” to install a single, US-based global empire maintained by US military dominance and continual warfare.

The Fascists had actually attempted to launch their war on terror plans during the Clinton administration, by bombing the African embassies, the USS Cole, and finally the Oklahoma City bombing. It turns out that Tim McVeigh was assisted in his plot by at least two supposed-Iraqis. The bombing was intended to launch an attack on Iraq and the War on Terror, but Clinton cleverly did not fall into the trap. He quietly covered up the involvement of the Iraqis and turned it into a purely domestic attack. And when the WTC was bombed for the first time (a false flag Fascist operation), Clinton treated it as a crime instead of announcing a war.

Like FDR before, Gore did not tell the public that the Fascists had stolen the election of 2000. To expose the Fascists' theft would likely put the Socialist plot at risk, and besides, anything done under the auspices of “deep state” (America's real, elite-run covert government) always remains a secret, no exceptions.

So on September 11, 2001, with PNAC members holding each office of importance that day, the Fascists were able to carry out their 9-11 attack without a peep from the Socialists. And for the first time, we were able to see how extensive the NWO's power was, effectively being able to cover up the crime of the century by using their code of silence among all their assets (people) throughout the media, scientific, education, and political infrastructures around the globe.

It turns out the 2000 Florida election ballots had actually been purposefully misprinted to usher in the notorious “electronic voting” revolution, with all the companies loyal to and working for the Fascists. Consequently, the 2004 election was easily stolen by flipping votes in key states, like Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado and several other states. It gave the Fascists another four years to try to implement the agenda for their version of the NWO.
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(part 3)
Now, with Obama president, it is again the Socialists trying to implement their plans for their NWO, based upon Global Warming and handing over control of development (CO2) to a global body like the UN. The Fascist members of the “deep state” are walking a fine line, keeping the secret of the Socialist Global Warming plot but encouraging their followers outside the deep state operations to expose the full lie.

Meanwhile, Cheney and the other Fascists are trying to keep the terror over the War on Terror on the table, as that is the centerpiece to their plan. Obama is attempting to look as though he is treating the 'terror threat' responsibly, while at the same time downplaying it and trying instead to focus the peoples' attention on the Climate Crisis. But Cheney still has Fascist operatives roaming about with nukes they procured while he was still in office. And Obama knows it and fears it.

The question then arises, will the Socialists go on to expose the Fascists' 9-11 involvement? Whether they do or not, the Socialists are screwed because even if the public learned of the Fascist role behind 9-11, it would undermine the public's trust in government. And how can the Socialists implement increased government control once the public decides they hate and fear their government. Exposure of 9-11 would likely lead the public to push for a roll-back of government power, and, without strong government to keep the powerful multinationals in check, it would set the stage for the global corporatocracy that the Fascists have been seeking all along. The Fascists know this, and consequently believe they can expose Global Warming without risking the exposure of 9-11. We'll see.

One flaw in the theory.

Some significant Green parties (mainly those in the United States and Great Britain & Ireland) oppose all international bodies. The Green Party of England and Wales is against the idea of a European super state and does not support globalization; or the major centralisation of global power.

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That was a great post, a few problems. You did not mention anything about Israel or Paul Wolfowitz. I am pretty sure those are some power players to the NWO.

You talk about two factions. Well, thats just an illusion. Machiavellian explained:

So your the new true leader (who is hiding behind the scenes ofcourse) and you want to stay the true leader. So you call to you those that would believe anything you say... do anything you say. You then teach them leftist principals. You then call another group to you and you teach them rightist principals. You then pit them together, the whole time they are thinking you are their mentor, their leader, their friend.

I am not saying the two factions are ignorant to this, I am saying the people that serve them are. The NWO isnt 'trying' to take over Russia, Russia is part of the NWO. The NWO already controls the world. They control everything, they just create the illusion that they dont. Illusionsts... Illuminati. Everything in politics/government is an illusion.

Yea, I am saying democracy and the 'republic for which it stands' are illusions to maintain mass slavery.

Theres two sides to this global climate issue. And they will clash together I am sure. Along the way corporations will make a lot of money forcing the lowest on the pyramid to make modifications to their vehicles, pay more for energy, so forth. Its just a trick, a scam. Thats why I call it mass slavery.

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Originally posted by DraconianKing
The earth is warming up, that is not a conspiracy. The leaked CRU emails contained absolutely nothing controversial. All the quotes touted by the ignorant conservatives have been analyzed and explained, revealing absolutely no conspiracy. If you actually spent 5 minutes reading more than just one sentence, researching the people who wrote the emails you would discover their true meaning. Deny Ignorance is supposed to be our motto but all I see is ignorance regarding this topic.

Can you throw a Race card on top of that one please.

It just would not seem right without one........

Originally posted by pheffler
BREAKING NEWS:

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Obama’s birth certificate controversy reaches Supreme Court


I can't post a new thread - anyone????? can you repost for me in the right place????

You might want to re-read your link, that was a year and two days ago.

Most excellent OP. S & F with some nice adds by Prof E.

Green, Red, sounds and looks like a Commie Christmas Party to me.

The Green movement over the years has changed too much. They used to be about cleaning up pollution, then they got hyjacked and started on this CO2 crap.

If the Govts of the world wanted to fix this stuff so bad, all they have to do is pull out all the patients they have buried along with the oil compainies for cheaper cleaner energy. Their collective plans do not make Utopia by a long shot.
I have not seen anything about what they want to do besides enslave, tax, take away rights. Mostly tax the crap out of everyone to push us down further.

Anyone buying into this crap can't see a very broad picture.
What, you going to save the earth in like 2 years? yeah right.

According to your false propoganda, the ice caps will be gone in less than 10 years and you think you can stop that without China, India which are the two worst by a long shot. Get real. Get a clue. And Wake Up!

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What happens if a tyrant muslim leader becomes President of Russia?

Will the World be in deep #?

I've seen the stats on the rise of Islam in Russia and i'm not liking what i see... can you imagine the problems that would cause?

Russia being North of China and Iraq, Iran being South of China.... i know this may not be what your post is about but i thought i'd bring it up in here....

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All posts are dated 2009, nothing found on the wayback machine, can't find the Hawaii SC docket info..

can't seem to find anything excepy 20009 - seems like a conspiricy to me!!!!

look for yourselves....

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Now the google cache shows no posts



my oh my?

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another ats'er pointed out that the guy was to take office next month - so this whole thing is useless - nix this article - it is old news - reguardless of it morphing and the comments and all the rest...

thanks - I am sorry forany confusion. I must be retarded!

Here's some interesting info:

In Mikhail Gorbachev's book Perestroika: New Thinking for Our Country AND THE WORLD on page 32 he lays it out in the open:

"We will now firmly stick to the line that only through the consistent development of the democratic forms inherent in socialism and the expansion of self-government can we make progress... It is exactly because we place emphasis on the development of socialist democracy that we pay so much attention to the intellectual sphere, public consciousness and an active social party... In the West, Lenin is often portrayed as an advocate of authoritarian methods of administration. This is a sign of total ignorance of Lenin's ideas and, not infrequently, of their deliberate distortion. In effect, according to Lenin, socialism and democracy are indivisible."

And on page 34, ibid:

"Perestroika means mass initiative. It is the comprehensive development of democracy, socialist self-government...But in principle I can say that the end result of perestroika is clear to us. It is a thorough renewal of every aspect of Soviet life; it is giving socialism to the most progressive forms of social organization; it is the fullest exposure of the HUMANIST nature of our social system in its crucial aspects - economic, social, political and moral... The essence of perestroika lies in the fact that IT UNITES SOCIALISM WITH DEMOCRACY and revives the Leninist concept of socialist construction both in theory and in practice."

And on page 36, ibid:

"...we are conducting all our reforms in accordance with the socialist choice. We are looking within socialism, rather than outside of it, for the answers to all the questions that arise. We assess our successes and errors alike by socialist standards. THOSE WHO HOPE THAT WE SHALL MOVE AWAY FROM THE SOCIALIST PATH WILL BE GREATLY DISAPPOINTED. EVERY PART OF OUR PROGRAM OF PERESTROIKA- AND THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE, FOR THAT MATTER -- IS FULLY BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF MORE SOCIALISM AND MORE DEMOCRACY...More Socialism means more democracy... We will proceed toward better socialism rather than away from it. We are saying this honestly, without trying to fool our own people or the world. ANY HOPES THAT WE WILL BEGIN TO BUILD A DIFFERENT, NON-SOCIALIST SOCIETY AND GO OVER TO THE OTHER CAMP ARE UNREALISTIC AND FUTILE."

Also on page 147, ibid, one interesting statement:

"A third world war, if unleashed by imperialism [Bush Doctrine], would lead to new social upheavals [global economic collapse, terrorism] which would finish off the capitalist system for good, and this would spell global peace [socialism]."

Now here is where it gets 'good':

Now, as to clarify the United States position on this policy, let's refer to Presidential Documents (AE2.109:25/47) "Administration of George Bush, " November 22, 1989, page 1822:

"Off the island nation of Malta [Knights of Malta], Mikhail Gorbachev and I [President George Herbert Walker Bush]will begin the work of years... I will assure him that THERE IS NO GREATER ADVOCATE OF PERESTROIKA THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES."

sovereignsentience.blogspot.com...

This fear of communism is hilarious.

Don't you guys get it? Communism is nearly dead with the exception of north korea and cuba. Why beat on a dead horse You got beef with the NWO thats fine because I am mad at them also but please don't mislead people with inaccurracies. Thanks!

Why do you think gorbachev ended communism for "democracy"? Because it was good, YEAH RIGHT! The NWO can only work with ultra-capitalism because issuing currency IS THE KEY to their conspiracy against mankind.


Mayer Amschel Rothschild said it himself; "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."

What more proof does one need to see the truth? Why do you think gorbachev is giving information to a mainstream newspaper such as The New York Times? Duh!! I can't believe people are so gullible....

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So equality is a bad thing? Sheep like you keep demonizing left politics with personal choice, freedom, liberty, blah...blah..blah How can you be "free" if you work at mcdonalds making $6 bucks an hour and then have the corporate state and corporate federal government tax you on those meager wages?

How can you be "free" paying 18%-22% on credit card balances?

How can you be "free" paying corporate compensation bailouts to the government, when the corporations and the private federal reserve caused the crisis in the first place?

How can you be "free" when the cia spies on your email, mobile tel, fax, etc?

How can you be "free" when your own government KILLS 3000+ people and then blames it on "islamic terrorists" from iraq and afghanistan when most of us already know its a steaming pile of horse pooh?

How can you be "free" when mainstream media is bought out by the NWO? Oh yeah the nwo is a "socialist" front.............

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Don't you guys get it? Communism is nearly dead with the exception of north korea and cuba.

Actually, I half agree with you. I don't believe that Gorbachev is pushing a communist agenda, but rather a Socialist Agenda. If you look at MY post, I never mention communism, nor does my link.
Although communism is on death's door, as you stated, socialism is far from that. Most of Europe could be considered socialist, as are many other countries.
Obama, as part of his agenda, is certainly pushing the US towards socialism, just as Gorbachev is urging the world towards it. The NWO truly WANTS a SOCIALIST world.

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The Earth's climate is changing, and has been having wild fluctuations of both cold, and warming....

No one is saying Climate change is not happening, but your people just want to blame mankind, and allow a one world government to rule over people with the excuse that "all humans are evil and they must be contiained."

No matter how much you try to dismiss the leaked emails, YOU ARE WRONG....

Obviously YOU haven't read what the emails say. Other scientists, including from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) have ADMITTED that the leaked emails ARE REAL, and that it will take a lot of effort for them to gain the credibility of the people.

Obviously people like you haven't even bothered to read what the emails say, and sorry to say ther eis NO EXCUSE to the tactics Mann, Jones, et al were telling others to use to get rid of the "skeptics. To not allow the original fata to be released, which included statements to use ILLEGAL MEANS to not allow ANY of their original reseach to be released by the FIOIA.

These people even metion that THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAS NOT GOTTEN WARMER...and still want to use tactics to hide this, and dismiss any evidence, or anyone that has convincing evidence against their RELIGION...

If you want to keep being a BLINDED follower of this religion THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM... But don't go around claiming "the emails don't matter' when even scientists who are on your side have admitted this is a blow against their case fof AGW....

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

The Earth's climate is changing, and has been having wild fluctuations of both cold, and warming.... No one is saying Climate change is not happening, but your people just want to blame mankind, and allow a one world government to rule over people with the excuse that "all humans are evil and they must be contiained." No matter how much you try to dismiss the leaked emails, YOU ARE WRONG.... Obviously YOU haven't read what the emails say. Other scientists, including from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) have ADMITTED that the leaked emails ARE REAL, and that it will take a lot of effort for them to gain the credibility of the people.

I've just found and posted a new thread concerning the research of a climate scientist from Australia. He has put together 10 facts, and 10 myths concerning GW. His research is quite revealing:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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...Who was it that implemented the Federal government, and gave power to the Socialist elite bankers?.... Woodrow Wilson a DEMOCRAT...

You obviously have no idea what it means to be a true conservative and a Republican...

We don't want more government, we want LESS government....Meanwhile the left keep asking for MORE government intervention, and MORE of a nanny state in which Americans need MORE government....

You are on the wrong side of the fence.

BTW, yes there are quite a few Republicans, and conservatives who do not uphold the basic principles of what it means to be a Republican, or conservative.

Did you ever bother to read the Constitution to find out what sort of government the forefathers saw as the most just for the people?....

U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4

Article 4 - The States
Section 4 - Republican Government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

www.usconstitution.net...

Does it say ANYTHING in the above section of the Constitution that the United States shall guarantee a Liberal, or a Democratic, or even a Socialist, or Communist form of government?.... NO....

It clearly states that each state shall guarantee a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT...

Are you now going to claim that "The Constitution doesn't matter, it is just a piece of paper ad nauseum"?.....

You can be a social person without being a Socialist, or a Communist...

You can care for other people WITHOUT GIVING AWAY INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM....

But this concenpt seems to escape some people like you for some strange reason....




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