Spectacular Phenomena In The Sky. What Is It?

Originally posted by A52FWY
spiral trail

Above is a link that has a rocket leaving a spiral trail.I suppose if you were in the right position you could look into the spiral tunnel created by the spinning rocket moving through artic ice crystals in the atmosphere.

Good research. However, I think the spiral in this image is more likely the smoke trail of the booster in the lower atmosphere, disfigured by shearing winds -- a very common phenomenon for launch images, but restricted to lower altitutdes. The spiral over norway is probably from another cause -- the spinning upper stage.

I have seen something similar to this before, it was while driving home in west sussex, and a night club was projecting things into the clouds, and that was a about 10 years ago, so they can probably do it better than what they did then, now. One thing that does spring to mind was something i read on here the other day about how the world leaders are going to create a holographic image of something in the sky, to make people think that the world is being invaded, sorry but i cant find the thread now, so if anyone can point to it, thanks, What it said they would do is create a fake invasion, which would lead people to cry for help and protection, which would lead to us giving the last of what freedom we have left to the NWO. its just a thought but it could be the start of something like that.

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I probably agree with you. The 'claims' of what the LHC is capable of doing or has done is abit of a stretch for me but who knows, I'm learning something everyday, may not be good learning but learning none the less.

The LHC conspiracy(one of them) is the ability to alter space and time. So as to the matter of it being 1000km away, according to this theory, wouldn't matter.

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I believe that in the earlier posts someone detailed that it was a 3 minute exposure as confirmed by the person taking the photo..

Originally posted by Essan
I think the spiral effect is simply due to the pictures being taken with a long exposure - hence it does not appear in the video or some other, darker, images.

Some of the videos shows it, so the exposure theory does not match see this video for example

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What's that standard joke line on ATS used by both "believers" and skeptics when it comes to things outside our normal paradigms?

"Move along, folks, nothing to see here," (except for the visit of a new type of alien ship come visiting).

Some day, maybe it was this day in Finland, we will look at wonders in the sky and say, "Oh, God!" It won't be that, of course, but many of us won't be able to tell the difference.

I have read every post in the thread..... I some how missed the post, thanks for pointing it out to me guys.

As I think about it, I do think it is funny that Obama will be in Copenhagen today are the two areas near one another, sorry I don't know.

Also I would watch what is happening in Copenhagen cause they could be doing more then thought and this climate change thing could be a cover.

We all know we are only shown what they want us to see we need our own members in said areas to keep check on their movements, it might be the only way we find out truths.

The word "illusion" keeps coming to me any one else sensing anything please share?

Interesting and unusual to say the least and the timimg of all this is ......................



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Okay people, this is really interesting!

Just came up on yt:



What I find odd about the spiral effect on the first video, is that the whole spiral is spinning. Wouldn't a gas accelerating out of a malfunctioning rockect loose velocity as it exausts from it?

I'm on the fence here, the blue trail doesn't add up much either. But hey, I am no rocket scientist.

I remembered a thread about another strange video about a rocket spiraling, here is the video:


On this video the spiral doesn't seem to spin together with its center like what happened in Norway.


IDK what this is.

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Hmmm..

Could this be part of a project 'Bluebeam' holographic projection test perhaps?

Originally posted by Acharya

Originally posted by Essan
I think the spiral effect is simply due to the pictures being taken with a long exposure - hence it does not appear in the video or some other, darker, images.

Some of the videos shows it, so the exposure theory does not match see this video for example

Same effect, less exposure.

Here's some pictures of some other rocket launches...
Source Mail On Line


Missile carrying a warhead...


Missile Launch back in 2002...


Minotaur Rocket in 2005...


They call this the butterfly effect...

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My explanation would be that the only source of light (the rockets exhaust) iluminating the "rocket" trail is in fact moving making it looking like the spiral is moving.

At unknown distances with an unknown rocket with unknown fuel source; it would be impossible to prove but it would be a logical answer.

READ THIS!!!!!!!!

NEW INFORMATION I FOUND!!!! COULD IT BE WHAT HAPPENED???
www.teilchen.at...

DECEMBER 9TH 2009
Last night the first collisions of protons at the world-record energy of 2.36 TeV (1.18 TeV per beam) were recorded by the ATLAS experiment at CERN. The ATLAS team posted an image of one candidate collision event on its Web site.

In addition to setting world records – for proton beam energy on November 29, and last night for proton collision energy – the team operating the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, and the teams operating the LHC experiments, have been hard at work. Here are a few more highlights from the last week and a half.

One of the main objectives for the LHC team over the past week and a half has been preparing to circulate and collide beams at higher intensities. This involves increasing the number of bunches that make up each LHC beam as well as the number of protons in each bunch.

“Higher intensity means more luminosity, more luminosity means more events for the experiments, more events gives more physics,” explained Fermilab’s Jim Strait, a former project manager for the U.S. contributions to the LHC accelerator who has been at CERN for the last year and a half assisting with LHC commissioning.

At full intensity, LHC beams will have 2,808 bunches each. The very first collisions at the LHC, at an energy of 450 GeV per beam on November 23, took place between one-bunch beams. On December 4, the LHC injected and circulated the very first two-bunch beam at an energy of 450 GeV. Around midnight on December 6, the first four-bunch beams were circulated and steered to collide in the center of the experiments.

Another main objective has been to deliver collisions at an energy of 450 GeV per beam to the LHC experiments. Collisions at this low energy – the energy at which the beams are injected into the LHC – are crucial to the experiments for calibrating and testing their detectors. The first sustained period of multi-bunch collisions at 450 GeV per beam occurred on December 6, and the experiments have continued to collect collision data at injection energy over the past few days.

The teams on the LHC experiments have been busily analyzing the first experimental data. The first LHC paper using collision data was prepared by the ALICE collaboration and accepted by the European Physical Journal C on December 1.

Although the LHC has already reached several milestones, there is much work still to do. By the time CERN shuts down for its two-week winter break on December 18, CERN hopes to have achieved a sustained period of collisions at an energy of 2.36 TeV. The next step will be collisions at a total energy of 7 TeV in early 2010, at which point the teams on the experiments will have their first chance to search for new physics.

“Almost all the work is still ahead to commission the machine and learn how to operate the beams,” said Strait. “They’ve only been at it two week. There’s been fantastic progress, but it’s still only two weeks


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Still it could be EISCATs guys just having fun :

Quote from this page :

www.eiscat.se:8080...

"The radiated wave can be linearly or circularly polarized with either sense of rotation"

Originally posted by pazcat
last tme OK

Behind the mountains is the Andoya rocket range.

It's not, Andøya is in the opposite direction.

Another piece of light heartedness, all good fun at the LHC

www.theregister.co.uk...

wow.... wtf is that? s and f. calling this thing a missle launch is absurd.

The spiral-cone structure of atmosphere is not necessarily caused by the "rocket". Combined movement of rocket and atmospheric structure could produce this amazing effect.

Originally posted by Moose318
READ THIS!!!!!!!!

NEW INFORMATION I FOUND!!!! COULD IT BE WHAT HAPPENED???
www.teilchen.at...
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Please, stop this LHC nonsense... it's ridiculous!
the LHC smashing together particles at record energies is not causing light phnenomena's more then 1000 km away from it's location...

Originally posted by jukiodone2
reply to post by MorfeuZ

 

My explanation would be that the only source of light (the rockets exhaust) iluminating the "rocket" trail is in fact moving making it looking like the spiral is moving.

At unknown distances with an unknown rocket with unknown fuel source; it would be impossible to prove but it would be a logical answer.

I guess it could be, but i'm not very convinced yet. Although the first thing that came to my mind when I started reading this thread was Jonny Annonymous speaking about the China's EM drive. I mean, who knows?!?

Researching the subject, I found this could somewhat b related to this phenomena. But IDK if it was on the same region.
naacal.blogspot.com...