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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Here's the problem..
We would SEE something like that. It's huge, not some little planet..It's a STAR.
Nobody can see it...
People could see it from their backyards...they don't.
There is nothing there..
~Keeper
Originally posted by double_frick
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Here's the problem..
We would SEE something like that. It's huge, not some little planet..It's a STAR.
Nobody can see it...
People could see it from their backyards...they don't.
There is nothing there..
~Keeper
i reserve the right to respectfully disagree.
though i'm not solid on that.
i believe it could be out there and we just haven't seen it yet or those who have aren't talking...or are completely discredited. could be wrong though. i have to say i just don't think anyone can say for sure at this point.
guess i'm from the waitNsee tribe.
Originally posted by Signals
If we can't see it but it's there....and they can see it...they would never tell us anyway until maybe we're all fried...it's gonna be impossible to hide sooner or later.
Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
Most stars are part of a binary system. Think about it, in a vacuum, you throw a zillion objects out into empty space, they will eventually gravitate, congeal into groups - it's only natural that we be part of a small group - some astronmers estimate anywhere from 50-80% of all stars are part of a binary system. Why is it so hard to believe that we wouldn't be part of one ourselves? We think we're so special.
John J. Matese, Daniel P. Whitmire
(Submitted on 26 Apr 2010)
Abstract: We present an updated dynamical and statistical analysis of outer Oort cloud cometary evidence suggesting the sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion. The results support a conjecture that there exists a companion of mass ~ 1-4 M_Jup orbiting in the innermost region of the outer Oort cloud. Our most restrictive prediction is that the orientation angles of the orbit normal in galactic coordinates are centered on the galactic longitude of the ascending node Omega = 319 degree and the galactic inclination i = 103 degree (or the opposite direction) with an uncertainty in the normal direction subtending ~ 2% of the sky. A Bayesian statistical analysis suggests that the probability of the companion hypothesis is comparable to or greater than the probability of the null hypothesis of a statistical fluke. Such a companion could also have produced the detached Kuiper Belt object Sedna. The putative companion could be easily detected by the recently launched Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE).
Originally posted by stereologist
Here's the interesting issue with this paper. It suggests that something is out there and it is small and far away. It is suggested that it is 25000AU away. Remember that 62500AU make a light year. The body they are looking for is like 4 Jupiters in mass at most. That's not big enough to be a brown dwarf. The lower end for them is like 10 Jupiter masses.
sun has a wide-binary Jovian mass companion
Originally posted by stereologist
The lower end for the brown dwarfs is based on theoretical predictions of the material when that much gravity is applied. The pressure due to gravity and the kinetic energy of the heated atoms is not strong enough to overcome the interaction between the electrons of the atoms. The atoms do not undergo fusion.
only lately they are really starting to find lots of them. perhaps it is possible the 10 jupiter masses they expect to be the lower end for a brown dwarf is not correct.
Originally posted by Signals
If we can't see it but it's there....and they can see it...they would never tell us anyway until maybe we're all fried...it's gonna be impossible to hide sooner or later.
Originally posted by Isis_Is_I
It is very possible that we have a Brown dwarf close enough to see but hidden due to the fact you need infared equipment for it to be visable.
As an amatuer astronomer I find the 'Planet X' theory very plausible and very probable. Binary systems are extremely common. This is one hell of a big Universe/s.
ANYTHING is possible.