Update: YOUTUBE and GOOGLE won't auto-fill/suggest the keywords "climategate" and "climate gate

yep...no autofill here either..on google.....well..i got CLIMATEGAY as a suggestion...seems odd that CLIMATEGAY would be searched more often that climategate...

So are people having issues with the actual search results, or just the craptastic "auto-fill" feature? Personally, I can't stand auto-fill. It seems that the majority of the time it's guessing the wrong term(s) anyway, and by the time it gets it right it's quicker to just finish typing the last letter or two.

Have we really grown so lazy that we're complaining about perceived auto-fill result gaps? Is there actually a large segment of people having trouble spelling climategate who rely on auto-fill to compensate for them? As long as the search results are still bringing up the desired information, is there really a problem here? Maybe I should complain that the last time I went to McDonalds, they didn't lift the Big Mac to my mouth for me. How much technological hand-holding do we really need?

[edit on 12/8/09 by redmage]

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Yeah it seems some people beat me to it. Wonder if anyone found the same issue with YouTube?

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You seem to be missing the point of the whole thread. Google and Youtubes SUGGESTION from their cache system seems to be FILTERING the terms. This thread has nothing to do with technology or it's overuse.

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Are you claiming that it's filtering the actual search results, or merely the auto-fill option, and if it is just the auto-fill option... why is that such a problem?

Is auto-fill that much of a necessity for a large segment of the population?

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW
This thread has nothing to do with technology or it's overuse.

If you're discussing perceived auto-fill result gaps, yet don't believe that google and youtube's auto-fill features qualify as technology, then you probably don't need to bother responding further...

[edit on 12/8/09 by redmage]

Yes, if these are being manipulated, this proves google is manipulating everything does it not?

No denial here folks.

I quit using google a few days ago when I found out they were tracing my usage even though I have no google accounts.

Switched to Ixquick search engine-Startpage.com

They do not track your movements. They do not stick a cookie in your computer. They do not log your IP and keep track of everything.

Google has perfected their work in China and are now using it everywhere.

Welcome to the Google World.

Originally posted by endisnighe
Yes, if these are being manipulated, this proves google is manipulating everything does it not?

No denial here folks.

I quit using google a few days ago when I found out they were tracing my usage even though I have no google accounts.

Switched to Ixquick search engine-Startpage.com

They do not track your movements. They do not stick a cookie in your computer. They do not log your IP and keep track of everything.

Google has perfected their work in China and are now using it everywhere.

Welcome to the Google World.

how do you know they were tracking your usage?

Originally posted by redmage
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW

 

Are you claiming that it's filtering the actual search results, or merely the auto-fill option, and if it is just the auto-fill option... why is that such a problem?

Is auto-fill that much of a necessity for a large segment of the population?

No...that would be too obvious if they did that. If I searched those terms and NOTHING came up? Cmon now

I work in SEO and SEM for my own business. You would be surprised how frequently the suggestion auto-fill is used. So to answer your question...absolutely. Maybe Google and Youtube think that the 30%-40% drop in relevancy mean something? Those are the averages people use the autofill suggestion (roughly)

*shrugs*

I don't know. But it's not indexing and not being generated for a very MAJOR relevant search term. If I went in to Adwords and bid on those search terms to "buy" one, I wonder if it will come up?

I don't think this is a cache or indexing mistake. I think this is willful filtering based on what I'm seeing.

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I figured Google's tracking was pretty common knowledge by now. I'd suggest watching Privacy Is Dead – Get Over It! to get a bit of a basic overview.

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I use StartPage also as my main engine. After this I might tell more people about them. I can get Googles autofill to index my stuff in a few days, and possibly have one thing indexed in the auto-fill, just for a few HUNDRED hits. No way Google and YouTube aren't indexing a MAJOR keyword phrase that gets tens of thousands.

NO WAY.

I really don't see the problem here. If you type climate, you get suggestions about climate change and the climate change debate. Perhaps they simply don't have the made up word, climategate, in their suggestion list.

Which is fine as their is substantial climate change data, studies and discussions out there besides what is involved in the so called climategate.

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I meant to say "technology AND it's overuse". Can we move on now?

Originally posted by redmage
reply to post by alienesque

 

I figured Google's tracking was pretty common knowledge by now. I'd suggest watching Privacy Is Dead – Get Over It! to get a bit of a basic overview.

ah..ok..i thought you meant you found out they were specifically tracking you personally..thanks for the link

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Some people just don't understand how Search Engines and keyword relevancy work. From an SEO(Search Engine Optimization) and SEM(Search Engine Marketing) standpoint, and overall search behavior......it's kinda of a big deal dude.

Of course it is not auto-filling because no one is really looking into it.

It is nothing just relax and calm down. Let the government comfort you and everything will be alright. They would never and have never lied to us or withheld information from us. Google and YouTube are our friends they want to only give us the best services possible they would never distort things or wash evidence away.




BTW no auto-fill on Google here for it either. Not even after the full word/words were present.


Raist

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See this over here-it shows how Google is now tracking non users and logged out users.

Google expands tracking to logged out users

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW

Originally posted by Doc Tesla
thread fail.

it works on a most searched basis. if not alot of people are searching for climategate it will not autofill it.

try it with any random search.

LOGIC FAIL! "IF NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING"?

Hello, it's one of the most typed words of this month. That's my point. Why did you insert such a nitwit drive by post? Do you have anything relevant to contribute?

Christ man, are you even conscious and breathing?

see i was trying to be helpful. but your an idiot.

wanna see how bad you are?

www.google.com...

it barely there. cheese is more searched then it.

btw who the hell searches for cheese so much?

just because you think its the most talked about doesn't make it true.

i see your response now "its Google obviously they are...."

shut up. its clear from your posts you have no idea how search suggestions or Google works.

so how about until you can prove its the most searched word, you just sit in your corner and think about what you've done.



[edit on 8-12-2009 by Doc Tesla]

It's working for me, it's Climate-gate.

Second line

Originally posted by Wes225
It's working for me, it's Climate-gate.

Second line

It worked for me too (hyphenated)
I also got:
"climategate copenhagen"
"climategates" (whatever that is)

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Look at this smarty. Comparatively speaking, more people were googling climategate than boobs.

So tell me again how your graph means anything?

If more people were looking for climategate than boobs in the news arena, I think we have something important here!

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[edit on 12/8/2009 by endisnighe]