Panic Attack - causes, cures.

While listening to people over 70 I became astounded at how much they endured.
They were manipulated into these epic wars, and they suffered many symptms afterwards.
However, it seems they never suffered from panic/anxiety or depression as classified nowadays.
I forwarded the position that electrical current, and especially cellular-telephone poles were involved.
That argument seems to have lots of support.
So why is panic and anxiety the curse of our generation?

I had them just before or at the very beginning of the tech boom. I felt like I was dyeing and would visit the local E.R. They never found anything wrong. I finally just said screw it when they came on and they just went away.

I just told myself they didnt exist and I never had them again. My 23 year old started to get them and I sat her down and explained my experiences to her and she stopped having them as well.

I wish someone would have talked to me because I wasted a ton of money running like a scared chicken to the E.R.

Why they happen I am unsure.. Is it due to technology over load? Not sure. All I know is the mind is very powerful or at least in my case it is. Ignoring it was the best medicine in my case.

For those that do have them try to tell yourself it is all in your head.. Worked for me and my daughter.

reply to post by halfoldman


I think you are looking too far into this.

Panic attacks are personal and unique to the individual, usually due to Agoraphobia, the fear of being trapped without help in sight. It is also due to heredity, and it has evolved over the decades.

According to WebMD, stress has a big impact on this subject.

April 17, 2006 -- Being stressed out for a long period of time might increase anxiety, a new study shows.

The study, published in Behavioral Neuroscience, lays some of the blame on stress hormones. Those stress hormones -- such as cortisol and corticotropin-releasing hormone -- can help respond to an immediate threat.

But if stress stays high instead of easing up, those hormones could boost anxiety and lead to mood disorders.

Chronic Stress Disorder

Maybe it is because of all the 'Doom & Gloom' that seems to be perpetuated by the media and eaten daily by the populace that contends to this. Still, there is no way in knowing for sure why it is happening, or even how to stop it.

IMO, I don't think it is a conspiracy, as your OP implies. It is not a curse of our generation, for it has been around for awhile (Xanax being around since the 60's). It just seems to be happening more often, and that may be because of where you look. You cannot possibly come up with accurate numbers by asking random old people about their experiences with anxiety attacks.

All in all, it is just another thing that some of us have to worry about, not all of us. We all handle stress differently, we are all different when it comes to specific genetics, so it isn't an epidemic just yet, nor should it be considered one.

Fight or flight, it can be taken in many ways, one being panic attacks in some unfortunate cases.

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You have to focus really hard to come through them. Just say f it, and go with the flow.

reply to post by Bushido Kanji


I was actually amazed at how easy it was to ignore my episodes. In fact one or two more after my last trip tot he E.R. and they went away altogether. My daughter has not had one since our talk.

It's an anxiety of some kind and I think you may he right about it being passed from family members. My 16 year old has not had any but it seemed it happened to me in my late teens to early 20's. Same with my daughter.

Maybe it was the realization that we were at the age where we had to earn own keep...

My mom or dad never told me they had it. Maybe they just didn't think it was something that needed to be talked about but they did indeed have it at some point?

It may be in part the over-load you speak of - just my opinion.

Take my dad. He is 93. He grew up in the great depression, very poor, on his family's farm. He had TB as a kid - he only found out later in life that was what it was, but he almost died. He was in WW2 and was in the first wave to land on Omaha beach, and was in several battles before and after that before being sent home due to wounds.

Oh - old WW2 clips or thoughts of buddies lost will make him cry. But he's never had a panic attack despite all he's been through.

He's been through much - but much of the information he got wasn't the flood we have today.

For example, as a kid he knew his life was rough and it was for those around him. From what little news there was he knew it was tough all over - but no constant bombardment of dire news 24/7 from around the globe.

Much the same in the war. He knew the orders of his troop were "Go to X, and do Y." He'd hear, "We are winning here - but had a tough fight there." Again - no information stream 24/7.

I can't help but wonder if that is part of it.

Originally posted by northof8
reply to post by Bushido Kanji

 

Maybe it was the realization that we were at the age where we had to earn own keep...

That is a very viable reason behind it, and that time is quickly approaching for me

I have had one or two panic attacks, but they were mainly just hyperventilation; it normally happens when I fear that my breathing is being disrupted, which is ironic in its own respects.

My generalized anxiety disorder is literally killing me. One ER visit per month.

Should there be a connection between high tech and panic attacks, I would happily move to a remote mountain top with no electricity or gadgets (and maybe my health insurance would pay for it - NOT).

It really does suck. I'll never get off of Xanax.

reply to post by Frogs


Overloading can cause serious psychological problems in people, one may be chronic panic attacks. Maybe he has learned to tame his emotions through the hardships he has been through.

Send him my regards, he deserves the utmost respect.

reply to post by Frogs


Yep he had no glenn beck or alex jones. Your family member must have some great stories. You should sit down and ask him about some.

reply to post by brilab45


Xanax, in my opinion, just makes the panic attacks worse. Sure, it calms you down, but from my own encounters with the drug (my friend was prescribed) it only created a dependency for which, if not treated with excessive amounts of the drug (due to developing immunity), the cases of panic attacks would grow immensely in severity.

And if you try to ween yourself of Xanax, you are only asking for trouble. It is possible, but you will go through hell and, if you are not mentally tough, will not follow through with your attempts to quit.

Originally posted by Bushido Kanji

Originally posted by northof8
reply to post by Bushido Kanji

 

Maybe it was the realization that we were at the age where we had to earn own keep...

That is a very viable reason behind it, and that time is quickly approaching for me

I have had one or two panic attacks, but they were mainly just hyperventilation; it normally happens when I fear that my breathing is being disrupted, which is ironic in its own respects.

Mine were a numbing sick feeling. Kind of inhuman feelings compared to how I felt normally as a human is the best way I can explain it. I could breath fine but I just felt really, really strange and it was uncomfortable to the point of being really frightened.

It could have been a subconscious fear of having to get a job and becoming an adult or my own theory is really growing pains. Kind of like when your bones are growing they hurt sometimes? Maybe those panic attacks are growing stages?

The other poster is right though. If you get them just concentrate and know you will get through them. Drugs aren't the answer but the doctor will give you downers or zanazx if that's what it is called. That is a whole new can of worms though. No sense getting hooked on something you can control with your mind...

reply to post by brilab45


You really need to focus... Stop going tot he E.R., it's all in your head so to speak and that's not a put down. It was all in my head and I just decided enough was enough. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

I'm not a doctor, but the following worked for me: Argentum Nitricum (30CC). It's homeopathic, side-effect free and works!

reply to post by Bushido Kanji


You are absolutely correct. I do not exceed more than 2 mg. per day. I take other meds as well that help that are not addictive in nature.

There are days I take none and I am under strict supervision with my psych nurse. Anyone taking these medications should follow their doctors orders to a T.

Thanks for your concern.

reply to post by halfoldman


Put it this way, the NWO guys, with their Pharmaceuticals have infiltrated every major company that makes your food and water. Just like they produce the medications to cover up your anxieties, depressions and physical pains, they to have created drugs to make you feel anxiety and depression etc.

Yes, you are not aware of it, but Big Pharma has created drugs to make you have panic attacks and depression. They put these agents in your water, foods, and chemical cleaning products, so that throughout a year, if you do not eat some potent vegetable products, these aggravating chemical imbalances occur, but the precursor is chemical garbage.
They've been making it so that your brain is deprived of enough oxygen with the fluoride garbage that they've been putting in there.

My advice to anyone with panic attacks or anxiety is to grab a ton of superfood powder mix, cayenne pepper and Goji berries. Try this stuff for two weeks. You're gonna feel much better.

Also, stop brushing your mouth with that garbage toothpaste. Take Tom's of Maine or something else.


The difference will be so big, that you will realize that all this time, the NWO guys have usurped the food and chemical supply and made sure that you get special chemical agents to make you anxious, depressed, and panicky more than any generation ever before.

The difference is the diets of the population.

Many people who have "panic attacks" have been undiagnosed with other problems.

Irregular heartbeat for instance could be caused by low potassium due to hyperaldsteronism / Conn's syndrome among many other real medical problems.

Doctors are more than happy to tell you that you have a panic disorder and throwing you a prescription instead of actually finding out what the problems is.

reply to post by northof8


I'm 43 years old. I have neurological problems that exacerbate my anxiety. I'm usually in good control when I have a severe attack. The problem lies with my blood pressure shooting up to stroke level.

At that point, my only choice is the ER.

Panic Attack - causes, cures.

So why is panic and anxiety the curse of our generation?

reply to post by halfoldman


You must be meaning Boomers as 'our generation'


I had a Uncle-in-law who was a Rough Rider on San Jauan Hill, etc
Uncle Sweeney must have had panic attacks...even as he descended into
Senility... the catch-all symptom before Alzheimers became the disease De-Jour.


My self... i used to think that 'panic attacks' were just extreme but self induced psychological episodes.
But looking back, i surmise that my particular 'panic attacks' stem from my fear of having another brain hemorrhage.
I recognize the classic symptoms: the dizziness, the spatial & accoustic Distortions, the echoing or ringing in the brain, the chills, the shallow breathing...but above all--- having the conviction that i am once again having a brain Stroke... and that thinking makes one's mind Intensify the symptoms mentioned above....and creates the Panic-Attack !

on my third episode... i had enough sense to have the family member take my blood pressure...and it was over 180-110...
so that 'told' me that i was in the throes of a stroke....

but a few sips of bottled water, a quiet rest, taking an 'Anti-Vert'
for vertigo/extreme dizziness to where one cannot walk without aid...
and intrevenous saline over a period of 1 hour --- the Panic Attack passed


but here's the dilemma... if i treat a sudden bout of Vertigo, high blood-pressure, shallow breathing, clammy skin, chills, ringing/echoing of normal sounds, & the classic spatial distortions (like a poT episode)...
i might die because i treated the warning signs as a casual Panic-Attack
which i could 'ride out' ....instead of treating/considering the symptoms as a full fledged Stroke !

reply to post by Pocky

You and so many above posts are so right.
I took a pseudo-ephidrine "diet pill" until recently (it was banned here in July this year). Even now I'm struggling to find a head-ache tablet without caffeine.
I won't say all that caused my symptoms of anxiety, but I think it contributed.



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