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Originally posted by xelamental
Please enlighten me. Why do you not believe in global warming?
Originally posted by SmokeJaguar67
I believe the global warming argument and the idea that humans are the cause is nothing but a disgusting greed driven and cynical scam to bring about a new level of taxation and draconian laws that can be created as a benefit to the elite and a disadvantage to the general population.
To put forward that we are the cause of global warming on the scale that is being fed to us in the mainstream is ridiculous to me.
Apparently the earth has been heating up for years but so have many other planets in the solar system from mars right out to Pluto. Unless our pollution can reach as far as Pluto I am left with no choice but to use common sense and presume that the heating debate is a purposeful lie and that the solar heating is being caused by our sun and that this heating is probably a cyclical heating phenomenon.
The elite are using this cyclical heating phenomenon as a tool that they hope can suck more funds from the bank accounts of the people they hold with nothing but contempt.
Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Originally posted by xelamental
Please enlighten me. Why do you not believe in global warming?
Because then they'll have to change. And change is hard.
Originally posted by SmokeJaguar67
Well I can tell you this and then I will leave you too it because you just confirmed my suspicions that this thread and your reasons for posting it was nothing but a jab with a stick (and you thought you were being so clever).
I put forward my argument as was requested by this thread, and I could go on and answer your other questions now that your have finally come out into the open but you have been underhand and therefore I feel no motivation to waste my time. Had you been more honest in your opening post then I might have done so.
I suspected from the beginning that this thread was posted by a global warming proponent the moment I read it but I took the bait and posted my opinion, you shot your bolt far too soon, you should have waited for others to give their opinions.
Deny ignorance, don't pretend to be ignorant of the subject when in fact your mind was already made up long before you posted.
Here is a tip for you, if you want an honest debate with then you should start your thread with an honest intent without hiding.
Good day, sir
[edit on 6-12-2009 by SmokeJaguar67]
Originally posted by SmokeJaguar67
To put forward that we are the cause of global warming on the scale that is being fed to us in the mainstream is ridiculous to me.
[edit on 6-12-2009 by SmokeJaguar67]
Originally posted by Stinkhorn1
reply to post by xelamental
Actually, the EVIL oil companies you speak of do not influence scientist with wads of cash unlike the governments of the world that do.
Scientists studying the environment these days get millions upon millions in grants money. Do you honestly think they want that money to stop flowing in?
There are much bigger polluters than BIG OIL, look at the rivers and you will find more pollution from farmers using chemicals, municipalities dumping raw fecal sewage and multitudes of other industries dumping an acceptable percentage of toxic chemicals into the rivers of the world.
What the hell is an acceptable amount? I think none would be the right answer.
Screw global warming, lets clean up our waterways and stop the polluting instead, I never hear anyone talking about the horrible and worsening water situation.
[edit on 6-12-2009 by Stinkhorn1]
Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Originally posted by xelamental
Please enlighten me. Why do you not believe in global warming?
Because then they'll have to change. And change is hard.
I don't think the elites care that much whether people follow the global warming agenda or not. They own everything, the oil companies and all. So, I'm not exactly sure why there're so many tug of war regarding this climate change issue.
Originally posted by xelamental
Originally posted by SmokeJaguar67
I believe the global warming argument and the idea that humans are the cause is nothing but a disgusting greed driven and cynical scam to bring about a new level of taxation and draconian laws that can be created as a benefit to the elite and a disadvantage to the general population.
Umm... this makes no sense. We are already slaves to oil. If we stop using so much, we will give them less money... I do not see your logic here sir.
Originally posted by dariousg
Take care of your environment because you live in it. Don't piss in your drinking water. But don't let them run your life and tell you what you can buy and how many lights you can have on.
Originally posted by Xeven
Why is it ridiculous to you? I think you missed the intent of the OP. Why are you against the environmentalist.
Originally posted by XevenWhat makes it ridiculous to you? Are you more aware and intelligent than those who believe we are a significant cause of climate change because of the enormous amount of carbon we are adding to the atmosphere?
Originally posted by XevenWhy would you take up the side of big Oil rather than green energy. Either way we are paying someone for energy. One is cleaner than the other and that is a Fact no matter how you spin global warming.
Originally posted by XevenWhat "IF" you are wrong and these guys are not ridiculous? Then we have destroyed our world when we could have gone green and not taken the risk?
Originally posted by Xeven
he fact is None of us have the facts yet. The climate is changing regardless so why not take the Green pill instead of the black one? We don't know what will happen if we keep taking the black one but the green one is pretty safe and clean.
Originally posted by XevenAre you just happy with oil or what?
Originally posted by xelamental
Please enlighten me. Why do you not believe in global warming?
[edit on 6-12-2009 by xelamental]