Scientific Link to Autism Identified

after NASAL H1N1 VACCINE!
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Paxnatus, excellent find. Have you read this latest propaganda from the LA Times/Chicago Tribune? Articles like this that dismiss parental efforts to help their children with chelation while assuring us that mercury is safe make me sick. Their "Therapies can get undeserved credit" sidebar is particularly galling. If I were you, I'd look into this AutismOne group. Whenever the corporate media/Big Pharma shills go to that kind of effort to discredit an organization, I figure there's gotta be something to it. I'm still waiting for the first article to explain why the Amish don't experience autism. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the Amish don't believe in vaccinations. God, I hate the corporate media and their Big Pharma shills.

Good luck to you and your son.

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GoldenFleece, they forgot to check their very own news archive.

Let me refresh the page 3 information.

Look WHO wrote the memo.

No less than Dr. Maurice R. Hilleman, one of the fathers of vaccination, having himself created over 10 vaccines, and have a Merck laboratory named in his honour.

Unfortunately, he died 2 months after this shocking info came to light in a court trial, 14 years being hidden away, sealed in Merck's confidential files...

'91 Memo Warned of Mercury in Shots

The March 1991 memo, obtained by The Times, said that 6-month-old children who received their shots on schedule would get a mercury dose up to 87 times higher than guidelines for the maximum daily consumption of mercury from fish.

"When viewed in this way, the mercury load appears rather large," said the memo from Dr. Maurice R. Hilleman, an internationally renowned vaccinologist. It was written to the president of Merck's vaccine division.

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Great find. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Along with Banksters and Oil Companies, I consider Big Pharma among the most evil of entities (with Baxter Pharmaceutical near the top.) Imagine not being allowed to file a lawsuit in regular court and instead having to go to "vaccine court", where IF you can prove damages, awards are paid out from... a fund that's based on fees paid by every person who gets a vaccination!

How do I get in on that scam?

WOW! Thanks for highlighting this. I was also a tad sceptical about the link. I couldn't - as a former research biologist - see a logical link. But this... if it's confirmed so much falls into place. Finally, there seems to be biological plausible link.... This needs confirmation, but it is potentially paradigm shattering.

And giving infants multiple vaccinations laden with thimerosol has no bearing on this?

Funny, RFK jr released an article in an issue of "Rolling Stone" about a secret symposium on this in Feb 2005. It seems they knew the answers THEN.

Originally posted by xelamental

HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) is the hormone tested for when checking to see if a woman is pregnant. Administration of hCG to a woman causes her body to mimic the symptoms of pregnancy. So what would you expect to happen if you inject hCG into a woman as part of a vaccine containing substances causing an immune response and inflammation of the injection site?

Interesting - I see your point.

The combination causes the body to develop an immune reaction to its own hCG, resulting in impaired fertility. It works even better if you combine it with a toxoid such as diphtheria or tetanus.

I never knew this.

This is why the inclusion of squalene, (sometimes listed as MF-59 or ASO3,) in vaccines is such a serious matter. Squalene administered this way has been shown to cause Gulf War Syndrome.

Glycine is a naturally occurring chemical in the human body.
Injecting an adjuvanted vaccine containing a naturally occurring body chemical can cause a long-term immune reaction against that chemical.
It would be surprising if injection of glycine did not have a deleterious effect in some patients.

This is the first plausible mechanism I have heard.

But - surely, it would be simple to scientifically test to see if a vaccine caused immune responses like this. Have the tests been run? Any research you can point me to? Great post.

Most studies are either funded by big pharma companies or by universities they are funding, and they are printed in journals funded by advertisements form bid pharma. So the tests we see are usually designed to protect the immensely profitable business of immunisation by deflecting the observer toward strawman theories or minimising the evidence against immunisation.

However one well researched area does prove the method I'm describing of causing autoimmunity, and that's the production of antifertility vaccines for both humans and animals. These vaccines work on the principle that the vaccine causes the immune system to attack body-parts similar to the ingredients within the vaccine, thus rendering the mother incapable of carrying the baby or the male incapable of producing fertile sperm.

It is the same system which causes the immune system to attack cells in the body with a similar chemistry to squalene, or to a myelin lookalike, or to peanuts when peanut oil is injected.

CAN VACCINE ADJUVANTS CAUSE ALLERGIES AND ANAPHYLAXIS?

Requests for information on the types of adjuvants used in human vaccines have not been answered to date. We did find that adjuvants are used to create allergic animals for scientific study and also that peanut oil has been used as an adjuvant. Peanut is by far the most common food to cause anaphylaxis in young children. Is peanut oil, or a similar protein or portion of a protein used in human vaccines as an adjuvant or "protein coat" in the Hib vaccine?? Aluminum has also been used as an adjuvant and is known to cause allergies according to the studies below. Could the adjuvants used in vaccines over the last 15 years be creating anaphylactic and allergic children?

. . . Murine model of atopic dermatitis associated with food hypersensitivity states,"Female C3H/HeJ mice were sensitized orally to cow's milk or peanut with a cholera toxin adjuvant and then subjected to low-grade allergen exposure.....An eczematous eruption developed in approximately one third of mice after low-grade exposure to milk or peanut proteins......This eczematous eruption resembles AD (atopic dermatitis) in human subjects and should provide a useful model for studying immunopathogenic mechanisms of food hypersensitivity in AD."

Mechanism of vaccine induced diabetes and autoimmunity

Recently several investigators working on vaccines to control fertility used the diphtheria and tetanus toxoids to break immunological tolerance to HCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, in humans when the hormone is associated with the vaccine.

Animal studies of this phenomenon show the induction of autoimmunity is not limited to the use of Freund's complete adjuvant since the administration of the swine flu vaccine in combination with an neural extract has lead to the development of autoimmune neuritis and the administration of the pertussis vaccine with thyroid extract has lead to the development of autoimmune thyroiditis in rodents.

Is Effective Immunity Necessarily Coupled with Autoimmuninity?

. . . . studies (in cancer treatment) have shown that, when CTLA-4 blockade is combined with xenogeneic DNA vaccines or granulocyte-macrophage colony-stimulating hormone–secreting irradiated whole-cell vaccines, increased rejection of established B16 tumors occurs and is associated with hypopigmentation. (turning white a la Michael Jackson)

Adjuvant/Rheumatoid Arthritis in Mice
Adjuvant arthritis is a disease in mice that's much like rheumatoid arthritis in humans. In mice, the disease is induced by injection of vaccine adjuvants. They're then studied for research on human rheumatoid arthritis because it appears to be virtually the same disorder.

Adjuvant/rheumatoid arthritis in mice is induced by injection with Complete Freund's Adjuvant, which contains a substance that is normally found throughout the human body—collagen. This particular adjuvant is not legal for use on humans in the United States. Of course, neither is squalene, as it's never been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), though it's used in several swine flu vaccines currently being administered.

What Drives Adjuvant Use in Vaccinations

Very few live virus vaccines are used today. The most significant reason is the potential of mutation into more virulent diseases. This is not a science fiction fantasy, but has happened recently in Africa. In an attempt to save money, Nigerian children have been given live polio vaccines. The result is a new, highly contagious, and virulent form of polio.

Therefore, killed and recombinant viruses are used, often not including whole viruses, but only proteins. As a result, these vaccinations are far less effective, often to the point of uselessness. In an attempt to increase the likelihood of the vaccination working, adjuvants are added. They can increase the body's immunological response. They can also increase the response to other materials injected with the vaccine, including the adjuvants themselves.

It's clear that any claims of safety based on an adjuvant's being a substance that's natural to the body is, at best, mistaken. It is precisely this that makes them dangerous.

Vaccine Court: Hepatitis B Shot Caused MS

. . . the Court noted in the ruling. “But if any of the vaccine antigens shares a homology with the recipient’s antigens, the host’s immune response will attack both the vaccine antigens and the host’s antigens, resulting in an autoimmune response. This concept is also known as molecular mimicry and is well-established in immunology.”

Hepatitis A vaccine associated with autoimmune hepatitis
The recrudescence of this case following vaccination with inactivated Hepatitis A virus adds to the evidence that Hepatitis A virus may trigger autoimmunity against the liver. It should not be interpreted as a side effect based on the vaccine’s track record of safety, but reveals potential connections between two apparently disparate liver pathologies.

Note in above case the fact that HAV is cultured in liver cells, and the vaccine is inevitably contaminated with traces of these cells, is not examined. Many such studies are being done to exonerate vaccines in which the causative mechanisms are ignored, and "straw men" are investigated instead.

Another cause of vaccine induced autoimmune disease is molecular mimicry.

Meningococcal molecular mimicry and the search for an ideal vaccine.

The carbohydrates expressed on the surface of meningococcal strains of groups B and C mimic those commonly found on human cells and thus are not functionally antigenic in infancy. In order to develop an effective vaccine, it will be necessary to find ways of circumventing this molecular mimicry.

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Acquired autoimmunity after viral vaccination is caused by molecular mimicry and antigen complimentarity in the presence of an immunologic adjuvant and specific HLA patterns

Acquired autoimmunity syndromes occur after viral vaccinations. Molecular mimicry is involved in these phenomena as is the necessity for the presence of two chemically complimentary antigens and an immunologic adjuvant. The HLA pattern of the host is also an important factor.

The example used to explain these phenomena is demyelinating disease that follows hepatitis B vaccination. The somatic antigen of the hepatitis B virus in the vaccine has chemical complimentarity with the Epstein-Barr virus antigen in the vaccine recipient. The Epstein-Barr virus shows molecular mimicry with human myelin. The immunologic adjuvant is either present in the vaccine or muramyl peptides in the individual who is vaccinated.

Why more than one type of autoimmune disease occurs is explained by the fact that specific autoimmune T-cells have been shown to develop clones that attack multiple human tissues.

Immune System Sees Squalene as an Enemy to Attack

One of the great distinguishing characteristics of the immune system is something akin to a highly sensitive innate intelligence that has evolved over eons to be able to respond very precisely to what it deems to be a threat to the body. Because the body contains many types of oily molecules and lipids, it may be that when an oil is injected, the immune system responds to it not only specifically, but with heightened intensity because the oil adjuvant resembles so closely the natural oils found in the body. A “cross reaction” then happens, sending the immune system into chaos destroying any oils found anywhere in the body that resemble the adjuvant oil. Demyelinating diseases like multiple sclerosis are an example of this destructive autoimmune process.

. . . . . “When UCLA Medical School’s Michael Whitehouse and Frances Beck injected squalene combined with other materials into rats and guinea pigs back in the 1970’s, few oils were more effective at causing the animal versions of arthritis and multiple sclerosis”, writes Matsumoto. In 1999, Dr. Johnny Lorentzen, an immunologist at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute proved that on injection, “otherwise benign molecules like squalene can stimulate a self-destructive immune response”, even though they occur naturally in the body. Other research institutes have also shown that the immune system makes antibodies to squalene, but only after it is injected.

. . . . . This phenomenon is also known as ‘molecular mimicry’, where the immune system forms antibodies against one of its own structures and will continue to attack the ‘self’ molecule in the body that resembles the one in the germ, or as is the case with squalene, an identical substance that is naturally present in the body. Once this self-destructive process begins, it never stops as the body continues to make the molecule the immune system is now trained to attack.

. . . . . Matsumoto reports that Soviet bioweaponeers used the principal of molecular mimicry in the 1980’s to engineer a ‘designer disease’ that would attack myelin. By splicing a fragment of myelin basic protein into legionella bacterium, they created what amounted to a living “nano-bomb”, which they injected into guinea pigs. What they found was that the immune system quickly cleared the legionella bacterium, but the myelin molecule, smuggled in by this microbial “Trojan horse” initiated a second wave of disease which caused experimental allergic encephalomyelitis, the animal version of MS. The Soviets recognized this creation for what it was – a biological time bomb!

Contraceptive vaccine assessment based on a murine ZP3 mini-autoantigen

A summary is presented of published and some unpublished observations from studies on the immunological response of mice to a 13-mer peptide of the murine ovarian zona pellucida glycoprotein ZP3. The findings have the following implications for the design of immunocontraceptive vaccines. To be reversible, a ZP3 vaccine must not contain pathogenic T cell epitopes of ZP3, but contraception without autoimmune oophoritis may be feasible. The immune response to the ZP3 mini-autoantigen is highly variable among inbred mouse strains, suggesting that a single oophoritogenic peptide would not achieve irreversible contraception in an outbred population. The discovery of antigen mimicry at the level of T cell peptide has thrown doubt on the validity of current strategy in detecting relevant self-antigens that might cross react with vaccine immunogens and on the feasibility of fully predicting the cross-reactive autoimmunogenic potential of a peptide or polypeptide vaccine antigen. Autoantibodies directed against epitopes outside the ZP3 mini-autoantigen, produced by immunization with the pure T cell epitope, react with high affinity, with native zona pellucida, and may be useful in identifying B cell epitopes in ZP3.

Well, it seems to me that's enough data to indicate the autism/injected glycine link is perfectly feasable.

I have been telling you that there is another player in this Crime.
You haven't been paying attention.

This is an article that ties the vaccine & Diet together. Here are some of the highlights:

"MSG and Autism

Breaking NEWS:

November 21, 2009 - the FDA has just approved Abilify (Aripiprazole) to treat autism symptoms. This GLUTAMATE BLOCKER is now being used to treat autism. At the VERY SAME TIME, behavioral therapists are feeding MSG-laden junk food to children with autism as REWARDS for behavior

Dr. Oz explains autism as a disease affected by inflammation, which is affected by DIET.

Dr. Oz didn't mention vaccines, but vaccines stimulate the immune response. That is exactly what they are designed to do. Unfortunately, MSG exacerbates the immune response further and most folks don't know that VACCINES are a very real source of Free Glutamic acid as well. It is in the hydrolyzed gelatin added as a preservative in nearly all vaccines -

In recent research papers by S. H Fatemi, Autism is described as a hyper-glutamatergic disorder. In other words, in autistic individuals, glutamate is in excess in the nervous system.

Autism is directly impacted by genes that affect the nervous system and the neurotransmitter glutamate......

"I am a former food process engineer who believes, because recent studies have implicated genes which code for glutamate synapses in ASD, we should investigate the effects of both INGESTED and INJECTED excitatory free amino acids (glutamic acid and aspartic acid) on children with these "autism genes."

It should be noted that the NMDA receptors that respond to both glutamate and aspartate are found in the amygdala - part of the limbic system involved in the perception of taste and smell as well as fear. Activating the amygdala in ASD, causes gaze avoidance. ASD children may also over-react to smells and tastes and face to face encounters can overwhelm them with fear. Limiting excitatory amino acids that target the amygdala may help.

Since the above letter was written to the NIH in January, new research has uncovered 6 genes related to autism. One specifically is involved in making glutathione (which is the body's natural chelating agent) from cysteine and glutamate. Cysteine is one of the sulfur-containing amino acids. We were on the right track all along ......More about the AUTISM GENES."

The above is from:
www.msgtruth.org...

More general info:
Headlines of some of the articles fount at: banmsgnow.info...

"Poison in the pantry – the MSG syndrome – monosodium glutamate

MSG: A Slow Poison

Can MSG Poison Your Brain?
Originally published on the Internet on trustedhands.com at this website.
It’s everywhere! Food manufacturers have found the golden key to keep their food tasty to you – and keep you coming back for more. But by eating foods containing MSG, could you be poisoning your brain? Let’s look at how MSG works in the body.

Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology
Accent, which is used in the Philippines. They usually place one to two tablespoons in a bread roll and are able to kill a dog. It causes an epileptic fit, and then they kill the dog. Unfortunately, in some areas of the Phillipines, the dog is then eaten pre-seasoned

The Slow Poisoning of Mankind
For thirty years, scientists and researchers have used MSG in their experiments to purposely create obese and pre-diabetic test subjects, trigger epileptic seizures, create ischemic strokes, and destroy cell tissues in vivo and in vitro.

Eye damage from MSG consumption "

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mercury and squaline in vacciness are the problem so is the lying gov and cdc

Originally posted by k3456789
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mercury and squaline in vacciness are the problem so is the lying gov and cdc

Before pronouncing that Mercury & Squaline are the problem, don't you think it would be wise to look at other connections; such as those I posted above, as well as those I posted on other pages here?

For some reason it seems that no one is interested in considering the role of DIET in these conditons. Ignoring it won't make it go away.
Your body is made of the food you eat, the water you drink, the air you breathe, almost everthing you touch, and the various subtle electro-magnetic frequencies that you cannot normally detect with your 5 senses, all moderated by your thoughts.

Originally posted by OhZone

Originally posted by k3456789
reply to post by paxnatus

 

mercury and squaline in vacciness are the problem so is the lying gov and cdc

Before pronouncing that Mercury & Squaline are the problem, don't you think it would be wise to look at other connections; such as those I posted above, as well as those I posted on other pages here?

For some reason it seems that no one is interested in considering the role of DIET in these conditons. Ignoring it won't make it go away.

Parents of autisic children are often well educated about diet as they find out early that some foods cause negative effects in behaviour (artificial food additives, gluten etc). The issue is not being ignored.. it's just diet can only do so much.

[edit on 9-12-2009 by riley]

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Hi Oh Zone,

I do not think this is being ignored. I agree preservatives and certain amino acids has so much to do with behavioral issues, diet plays a key role.

My son has been on gluten free diet since he was first diagnosed. We, meaning my family do not eat a thing with MSG in it.

Did you not read what I posted about the link between glutamate and other amino acids?

Please read this info. i posted.

Autism, causes something called "leaky gut syndrome". This means the body lacks the enzymes to breakdown certain amino acids, I think there are 22 different aminos that fall into this category.

Instead of being broken down and absorbed by the digestive system that go straight into the blood stream, producing a toxic effect. One I have seen in action is the protein binding agent called caesin. Caesin is the end product of milk.

Once caesin enters the blood stream it becomes a morphine or opoid derivative. If an autistic child ingest a caesin product there are immediate erractic behavioral changes. Once the product is in the system "the crave begins" If the child does not get more, then you see withdrawal like behavior.

So we are looking very specifically at diet along with mercury from vaccines, but as Riley said diet can only do so much. Most of these kids need help from medication along with years of intense therapy.

Let me state that this might at first seem irrelevant, but I assure you it is quite relevant, whether or not you see what I see. Let me also add that this might make me seem odd, and that many of you might not understand as of yet, but I will do what I will anyway, as I do not need praise to speak what I believe.

I am sure this is getting deeper into the rabbit hole, finding more and more chemical links to autism, but what is the rabbit. We all color the world with our choices, but many only see two sides to the coin when there are actually three. It takes two to tango, but when one seeks to annihilate the dance and take the helm alone, where does that leave the "other." When we act as though emotion is the creative force, and not logic and emotion entangled creating a spiral, what does this do? When we define ourselves by what we are not, what does each side of a false duality do to the other in a power lust? It seems to me as no mere coincidence, rather an incidence, that autism is on the rise. It will continue to be on the rise, as an example of sorts, until we seek not to liberate ourselves from logic, that which is fully aware of the responsibility of rights. Rights and responsibilities exist hand-in-hand. Our society has been increasingly viewing emotion as both feminine and valid, and logic as irrelevant (Don't anybody, including our very selves, dare point out the consequences of this game of choice we all play, and there are consequences. Such is irrefutable.). As such, many, particularly males, will develop autism, as they have not yet developed the will to not respond to these damaging, half-sided views masquerading as the end-all-be-all. They are cursed by the words of society. Sure, there are almost certainly chemical conditions which make autism more likely, but the environment in which they develop seals the deal.

In this game of life (which is much more than a game, but a game of choice nonetheless), I choose to align myself with the third side of the coin, as the two sides just flip each other over, destroying the other for the benefit of the so-called one. It is bad for both in the end. Both seek peace according to their own terms, and the ultimatum is, "Peace or annihilation." Obviously, these mere angles lead to total annihilation, so the character I play seeks to rise above angles, and to influence others to do the same.

I did try to point out to you all that it is extremely difficult if not impossible to avoid MSG/Glutamate.
It is in most ALL of the veggies that you buy.
It is in most ALL of the fruit you buy.
It is in most ALL meat that you buy via the Citric Acid.
You may react to the Citric Acid itself.
Cooking from scratch doesn't always work.
Today I have a headache from some of that "Natural, No Preservative, No Additive" Beef by Greenwise, sold at Publix. I didn't eat much of it. It had a bitter taste that gave away its undisclosed poison additive. Those who use sauce or seasonings would not notice it.

I have another link for you.
This site is by a lady who lost her little 3 year old girl to vaccines.
On this site you will find links to much other info with regard to the med/pharma cartel.

www.lowellsfacts.com...

"VIC (Vaccine Injury Coalition)
Autism is 1 in 67 children today and it's impossible to have a genetic epidemic!
Please learn from our mistake and educate BEFORE you vaccinate! For more information please visit: www.vacinfo.org... or call 800-939-8227 April Renee.

We recently returned from presenting in NC and I've just signed this www.thepetitionsite.com... petition. You are able to sign discriminately, so it looks like we all should be signing. Now more than ever, is why we need to reach the misinformed masses. Please consider coordinating a FREE vaccine presentation www.vacinfo.org... in your area with like minded individuals. You only have to find the location and we will send the flyer for you to promote. Call 800-939-8227 if you are interested in scheduling and God bless, April."


[edit on 10-12-2009 by OhZone]

Originally posted by orwellianunenlightenment
. . . Our society has been increasingly viewing emotion as both feminine and valid, and logic as irrelevant (Don't anybody, including our very selves, dare point out the consequences of this game of choice we all play, and there are consequences. Such is irrefutable.). As such, many, particularly males, will develop autism, as they have not yet developed the will to not respond to these damaging, half-sided views masquerading as the end-all-be-all. They are cursed by the words of society. Sure, there are almost certainly chemical conditions which make autism more likely, but the environment in which they develop seals the deal. . . . .

All you're doing is showing you understand nothing about autism.

It has nothing to do with not embracing "all three sides of the coin" ...

When my autistic child was first gently wrapped in a blanket he screamed in terror, and he screamed even harder when he was cuddled. Right from the start he refused to make eye-contact. He couldn't be carried out of the room he'd been born in without a panic attack for the first few months.

So was he "cursed by the words of society" while still in the womb, or is 5 minutes in this world's atmosphere enough to do it?

And how do you explain the fact that the more exposure he's had to this world the more "normal" he's become? Shouldn't he be becoming more and more autistic as the terrible pressures of modern society exert their inevitable consequences?

Beware of too much philosophising based on too little fact.
It's inclined to leave a fellow with a swollen cranium and a sticky keyboard.

No offense to the OP - and I take Autism research very seriously - but as someone who is a trained Biologist - I find the group behind this research highly suspect.

(and I am an ameteur UFOlogist - so I am anything but close minded)

All their talk about "homeostatic imbalances" as the underlying cause of almost any major disease - is honestly nothing but Junk Science.

The connection between vaccines and Autstic Syndrome - imho - is not at all Junk Science however - but I personally prescribe to the Allergic Hypothesis for some cases of Autistic Syndrome.

(That is to say - it is not any specific ingredient in vaccines that cause enough brain damage for Autism - but rather an exagerated Allergic Response by one's own body to certain chemicals or protiens found in the shots - that can bring about sudden autistic Syndrome)

I believe the fact that specific diet changes - early in a childs life- have been shown to alleviate some symptoms of Austistic Syndrome - adds evidential support to the Allergic Hypothesis.

Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by orwellianunenlightenment
. . . Our society has been increasingly viewing emotion as both feminine and valid, and logic as irrelevant (Don't anybody, including our very selves, dare point out the consequences of this game of choice we all play, and there are consequences. Such is irrefutable.). As such, many, particularly males, will develop autism, as they have not yet developed the will to not respond to these damaging, half-sided views masquerading as the end-all-be-all. They are cursed by the words of society. Sure, there are almost certainly chemical conditions which make autism more likely, but the environment in which they develop seals the deal. . . . .

All you're doing is showing you understand nothing about autism.

It has nothing to do with not embracing "all three sides of the coin" ...

When my autistic child was first gently wrapped in a blanket he screamed in terror, and he screamed even harder when he was cuddled. Right from the start he refused to make eye-contact. He couldn't be carried out of the room he'd been born in without a panic attack for the first few months.

So was he "cursed by the words of society" while still in the womb, or is 5 minutes in this world's atmosphere enough to do it?

And how do you explain the fact that the more exposure he's had to this world the more "normal" he's become? Shouldn't he be becoming more and more autistic as the terrible pressures of modern society exert their inevitable consequences?

Beware of too much philosophising based on too little fact.
It's inclined to leave a fellow with a swollen cranium and a sticky keyboard.

video.google.com...#

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I forgot where I saw it but there was a youtube video where a doctor refused to give the shot claiming it was worse then the swine flu. Said it wasn't safe for children.

Here's the Link to the video www.youtube.com...



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