Hemp, I wanna hear all about it!

Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by Acidtastic

 

ATS is NOT a place to list growing "directions" for marijuana.

Do you understand?

And if you "seen" me doing this before...you must have visited another thread that was endorsing criminal activity or seeking criminal information.

Who made me a Mod? No one...not yet.

Lets keep our fingers crossed though...they need all the help they can get with all the "puff-puff-boys" making a trash-can of this new forum.

IN the "why was X poster banned" was not talking about illegal activities, but you still waded in and accusd the OP of being stupid.

And I hope you never get made a mod, you're a board nazi, we could do with less of those.

Jesus, how are the "puff puff" boys (again ) trashing the new board with a legitimate question on growing a NATURAL plant with many useful properties. That is the point of this section, to discuess the conpsiracies in the alternative substances topic. Nobody has given a step by step instruction on how to grow hydroponic super skunk, and nobody will.

educate yourself for once, instead of thinking that you already know it all.
www.hort.purdue.edu...

reply to post by Raud


On topic.

Hemp is the most super-useful thing on Earth, almost like a wonderful nature-gift from God. Thank you for giving us Hemp, God!

I love Hemp.

this is simply something that i feel must be said now after watching the replies constantly made in this forum


anyone who wishes to engage in intelligent conversation and discussion of medical marijuana, just ignore mr mask



i am happy to see this thread back up in this area

there was a time period it was in the trash bin (im sure thanks to mr masks rantings)

but now its back (because it does not violate t and c, just by shouting it does and grunting and pointing does not make it so, and in real life usually gets fingers broken)

so that pretty much shuts up mr mask as far as this thread violating t and c


on top of that, every time mr mask posts in this forum, it is in someway to convince people the thread is violating ats or attempts to lead people into conversations that violate t and c


so best suggestion, ignore mr mask, there is no valuable debate potential there, and engaging in his discussions only clogs up the threads and forces the area to stray off topic, lets keep this thread open and easy to read for further information to become available


this person obviously has their mind made up regarding every substance in the cannabis family and trying to explain to the person otherwise is futile, its simply futile to explain the difference of each of the many different thousands if not millions of strains in the cannabis family


simply put, asking how to grow hemp is no more a violation of t and c then it is to ask how to grow cotton or dandelions


in the past i have seen threads regarding both


simply put this topic has the potential to provide very valuable information

i recommend from here on out we ignore mr masks rants until there is something valuable from the words that user uses


also to avoid any potential issues, lets stick to discussing how to use hemp rather then any type of growing information in order to keep the trolls under the bridge


i also understand ats has freedom of speech and the mods are great and all but this forum especially could use with a bit more censorship, its really hard to stay on topic when you have users like mr mask constantly focusing on t and c violations within every one of the users posts

reply to post by MajorDisaster


Thank you for a valid input for a change!

Now that we have thrashed the initial smack-talk, of which some really got me upset, let's talk about the topic!

Forget about the growing process then, if it is such a sore subject...
Hemp is a weed anyway, it'll probably grow under almost any condition, even if you don't even want it to.

This tread has been revived from the fathomless depths of the trash bin and given a second chance, I'll try my best to put this mutha back on track.

So tell me now; who here has personal experience in hemp product manufacturing?

Keep it real everybody!

Originally posted by Dramey
i believe since the two are in the same family they have similarities in growing, but im sure they are both different in their growing needs

They aren't just in the same family, there the same plant

@Op if you want to grow hemp for fiber, find a spot that gets lots of sun, has decent soil and good irrigation. Hemp is one of the easier plants to grow, it can be grown with minimal attention if givin the right conditions

How might Hemp be used to create jobs, industry and improve the economy?

The same way it has/had for centuries?

Ever heard of the book The Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack Herer?
www.jackherer.com...

More information than you could shake a stick at in there...

February 1938 - Mechanical Engineering Magazine: “THE MOST PROFITABLE & DESIRABLE CROP THAT CAN BE GROWN”

February 1938 - Popular Mechanics Magazine: “NEW BILLION-DOLLAR CROP”

... The Popular Mechanics article was the very first time in American history that the term "billion-dollar"* was ever applied to any U.S. agricultural crop!


*Equivalent to $40-$80 billion now.

reply to post by alaskan


Great response alaskan, thanks for that

Star for you!

Hempseed was regularly used in porridge, soups, and gruels by virtually all the people of the world up until this century. Monks were required to eat hempseed dishes three times a day, to weave their clothes with it and to print their Bibles on paper made with its fiber.

Hempseed can be pressed for its highly nutritious vegetable oil, which contains the highest amount of essential fatty acids in the plant kingdom. These essential oils are responsible for our immune responses and clear the arteries of cholesterol and plaque.

The byproduct of pressing the oil from the seed is the highest quality protein seed cake. It can be sprouted (malted) or ground and baked into cakes, breads and casseroles. Marijuana seed protein is one of mankind’s finest, most complete and available-to-the-body vegetable proteins. Hempseed is the most complete single food source for human nutrition.

www.jackherer.com...

Great stuff, lots of great information in these pages

In fact, when the preceding two articles were prepared early in 1937, hemp was still legal to grow. And those who predicted billions of dollars in new cannabis businesses did not consider income from medicines, energy (fuel) and food, which would now add another trillion dollars or more annually to our coming “natural” economy (compared to our synthetic, environmentally troubled economy). Relaxational smoking would add only a relatively minor amount to this figure. The most important reason that the 1938 magazine articles projected billions in new income was hemp for “pulp paper” (as opposed to fiber or rag paper). Other reasons were for its fiber, seed and many other pulp uses. If the hemp pulp paper process of 1916 were in use today, it could replace 40 to 70% of all pulp paper, including corrugated boxes, computer printout paper and paper bags.

Now's about the time an idiot moderator swoops in and tells us we can't discuss drugs...

This remarkable new hemp pulp technology for papermaking was invented in 1916 by our own U.S. Department of Agriculture chief scientists, botanist Lyster Dewey and chemist Jason Merrill. This technology, coupled with the breakthrough of G. W. Schlichten’s decorticating machine, patented in 1917, made hemp a viable paper source at less than half the cost of tree-pulp paper. The new harvesting machinery, along with Schlichten’s machine, brought the processing of hemp down from 200 to 300 man-hours per acre to just a couple of hours.* Twenty years later, advancing technology and the building of new access roads made hemp even more valuable. Unfortunately, by then, opposition forces had gathered steam and acted quickly to suppress hemp cultivation.

In 1916, USDA Bulletin No. 404 reported that one acre of cannabis hemp, in annual rotation over a 20-year period, would produce as much pulp for paper as 4.1 acres of trees being cut down over the same 20-year period. This process would use only 1/7 to 1/4 as much polluting sulfur-based acid chemicals to break down the glue-like lignin that binds the fibers of the pulp, or even none at all using soda ash. All this lignin must be broken down to make pulp. Hemp pulp is only 4-10% lignin, while trees are 18-30% lignin. The problem of dioxin contamination of rivers is avoided in the hemp papermaking process, which does not need to use chlorine bleach (as the wood pulp papermaking process requires), but instead substitutes safer hydrogen peroxide in the bleaching process. Thus, hemp provides four times as much pulp with at least four to seven times less pollution.

You should grow bamboo. It is easier and you really do not have anything to worry about growing bamboo. It is the fastest growing plant on earth and like hemp you can make almost anything out of it.


[edit on 6-12-2009 by zaiger]

Originally posted by Rawhemp

Originally posted by Dramey
i believe since the two are in the same family they have similarities in growing, but im sure they are both different in their growing needs

They aren't just in the same family, there the same plant

@Op if you want to grow hemp for fiber, find a spot that gets lots of sun, has decent soil and good irrigation. Hemp is one of the easier plants to grow, it can be grown with minimal attention if givin the right conditions

i agree with you, however i may be nitpicking, but there are differences


an analogy that comes to mind is with medical marijuana, there are thousands if not millions of strains all with different indica/sativa blends


so in that situation not all marijuana plants are the same plant


just like with hemp


with hemp there are specific properties that are desired


you cant achieve the same level of properties from both a medical marijuana plant and a commercially viable hemp plant


you can use marijuana for similar uses as hemp but it wont have the same quality, just like certain medical marijuana plants dont all posses the same medical qualities


also there are strains of hemp that are best designed for hemp uses, many of those dont contain the same level of thc as marijuana does, some hemp (not all) contain no thc at all



to use a family analogy, hemp is the son, marijuana's the daughter

reply to post by alaskan


alaskan


great information

i had to reply to you to point out to people to start starring your post

its very important that more people read about the paper and the rest of the information you have put up

the book you recommend has always been one of the best books available in the fight for medical marijuana and hemp production

reply to post by Raud


I just though this was funny

So tell me now, how do you grow and maintain the growth?

And for the millionth time: I don't mean GROWING hemp,

If you just want to learn how to grow hemp there are forums out there that are filled with people who just post about growing hemp.
You can make stuff out of hemp but in most cases bamboo is a much more efficent choice.
The cloth you would get from hemp is much like burlap which is why almost all hemp clothing is a blend of hemp and other materials.
For survival purposes you would never have to worry about people stealing your bamboo plants or ruining your crop by badly dammaging the plants while stealing the buds.
It is my opinion that people want to grow hemp in it's "non-smokeabole form" for an excuse to grow the smokeable stuff. There are similar legal alternatives that i do not see people jumping all over like bamboo and jute.
Plus to make the range of materials you want you would have to grow a little more than a feild and you would probably be better off stockpiling what you think you would need rather than devoting your "survivalist" time maintaining a hemp farm.

reply to post by zaiger


i dont have any knowledge on bamboo so i cant really debate you, nor does that seem necessary

all i wanted to point out is that you mention in a survivalist situation you may not want to devote that much time to a hemp farm


that may be true, or it may not be, it depends on the extant of the needs and the amount of labor available

i truly am not sure about bamboo, but i know hemp is one of the most adaptable plants there are, to plant a field of hemp to harvest in a non commercial situation takes little effort and resources compared to many other plants (bamboo may be an alternative that i have no knowledge of)


so depending on the quality hemp or amount of hemp needed, it may or may not be worth the time in a short term survival situation


however in a long term survival situation, with the plants i am familiar with, i know personally hemp would be towards the top of the list

I make macrame jewelry from hemp. Bracelets, rings, necklaces, anklets, etc. Sometimes I also make dreamcatchers using hemp.

That's about it.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
I make macrame jewelry from hemp. Bracelets, rings, necklaces, anklets, etc. Sometimes I also make dreamcatchers using hemp.

That's about it.

do you buy the hemp already in the proper form to work with or do you "prepare" the hemp for lack of a better word in order to use it in such manners?

reply to post by Dramey


I buy it, because as stated in other places, I don't support growing marijuana because I don't enjoy or support t's other uses for people who don't need it for medical reasons.

reply to post by Dramey


A couple things.
1) I was not responding to anything you posted.
2) The return key is not to take place of the period "."
3) as far as survival goes there is not much good hemp will do for ya.

Rope- Even when and where hemp was legal ships stopped using hemp rope because it needs to be tarred and rots. It was replaced by Manila hemp, which is not hemp it is a different plant but the name stuck.
Clothes- Hemp clothing is more like burlap than anything you would wear. To make the clothes you would want to wear you would need to blend the fibers with something like cotton.