An OPEN CALL to ATS users: STOP...

I usually don't comment in these 'whinge' threads, but i really don't understand.

ATS is what it is, it's always changing, as some members leave and others join. Naturally you can't agree with everyone, and those that like to make points without evidence are a part of many peoples hit lists, that's what your foe list is for.

Ignore button is your friend, my friend.

hey, calm down...I was against the war in iraq too.

You're not alone.

It;s really upsetting when obvious hoax threads get way more replies, stars, and flags, then real threads with real mysterious things to be discussed.

It's boring entertaining some of the threads sometimes, I mean, those are my stars, those are my flags. I've been ontop of this site for, um? well, I used to come here almost daily in 2003, for a few months, and then I left.

I only recently came back. It feels good to be back. Im' not sad I left, though.
Sometimes I get upset and frustrated because most of these threads are exactly the same threads from 7 years ago, just new posters.

I actually enjoy the nubies. I think if you gave them a chance you would enjoy their input, you. Sometimes I like to just talk. I use u2u, you, sometimes. You should try using it, say whatever comes to your mind.
For example, right now I'm thinking: George Bush doesn't like black people. If I had an iraqi dunar for every time I thought that, well, then I'd probably have my own store on e-bay.

I think you should just cool out for a bit, don't go anywhere, and check out this video I like to call Life is not fair. When I watch it, what comes to mind is...If I wanted to hear a baby cry, I'd have a baby.


That's what I think.
Reminder: You don't get to play the hand you wanted to play, but the question is when you get dealt the hand, how do you play it. Get back to me about that, i'll wait for you're reply, o.k.

reply to post by FlySolo


It's not about me wanting popular science. If you read my post you'll clearly see I said science cannot explain everything. I have no problem with those who have differences of opinions, different perspectives, etc. What I do have a problem with is people making far-fetched claims and misleading people because they have issues. What I have a problem with is doing this under the veil of "helping humanity" or spreading peace.

Freedom of speech trumps censorship regardless of content, with very few exceptions. These exceptions are known within the T&C of every alternative site.

If you do not like a thread then you can 1)ignore it 2)refute it. Even extremely far-fetched claims can serve a purpose which is not easily sensed at first. My suggestion to people is keep an open-mind and use critical thinking skills to seperate the wheat from the chaff. Ultimately what people believe is strictly their choice!

[edit on 4-12-2009 by EarthCitizen07]

I personally think this board is big enough for all types of people and
the particular interests they have. I also enjoy some of the far out claims
and woowoo threads. It's all part of the ATS experience.

Perhaps if you tried to understand that it takes all types to make this
world and the world of ATS go around you wouldn't take it so seriously.
And, if a harmless statement like "God helps those who help themselves"
riles you so much, that speaks more about you than those who make that comment.

reply to post by Zaydie


It's not about the board not being big enough. People can post, but I'm questioning the motivations for doing so. If you read with a critical mind you can plainly see some are crying out for attention, and some are not mentally healthy. One does not need to consult the DSM-IV to see this obvious truth. In addition, it isn't about me thinking ATS centers around me. I've clearly stated I'm open to difference of opinion, encourage various perspectives, etc -- that is not the problem. I've clearly outlined the problem and the type of people causing the problems.

In regards to "God helping those who help themselves" it is a highly illogical claim that does nothing but promote ignorance, pride and a false sense of security. If a person is helping their own self, why would they need God to help them? Wouldn't God's help be better spent helping the tens of thousands of children who die on a daily basis because they can't help themselves?



[edit on 4-12-2009 by EMPIRE]

reply to post by EMPIRE

You don't get it. I only recently started posting. I've been "logged off" for around four years now, and this is my first thread

Ok SnF

reply to post by EMPIRE


Starred...flagged

Now, I've been coming here for almost two years. Unfortunately, I haven't been on here as much lately due to my work and school schedule. Over the past two years, I have seen people post threads predicting UFOs arriving en masse over Alabama. Honest to God...Alabama.

I've seen threads posted by "former members of the Illuminati" warning us of the disasters to come and how only God (which always seems to be the Christian God) and our faith in Him will protect us.

But rarely are we justified in calling them liars the minute they make their claim. Fortunately for us, time has a way of revealing the truth. However, until then, it's best to take such radical claims with a grain of salt. The burden of proof rests upon those making the claim, not those who hear it.

Originally posted by LiveForever8
Jeez...when will these types of threads stop?

Its actually really boring me now.

Peace.

I joined literally a few hours ago, and already I have read about 3 of these threads.... And I couldn't agree more with you

You should look at ATS in a positive way.Some of the stories on here are quite intreasting.Some of the comments are quite funny.I always get a laught from some ones comment.You always learn something new every time you log into ATS.I try to post some funny comments sometimes to break the negitivity.The negitivity is all in your head.There is nothing wrong with this web site.Look at all the nutters and sex bots in the chat rooms.Thoses chat rooms are down right nasty.I keep away from them.I can understand what kind of people use this site and everyone has a different opinion about something even if they do work for the goverment.Thats the way the world gos around.I do not get time to read all the comments i would like to read as i do have other things to do with my life.I know some people may spend more time on ATS than me,but thats there life.People have to work at take care of there familes.My space game takes alot of my time on the computer.Thats my life.

Well Gee, Empire,
We used to have GREAT contributors to ATS. But they were all banned. Oh well, I guess we are left with what we have now.


[edit on 4-12-2009 by ATS4dummies]

To be honest I prefer mad threads of people saying an alien stole their brain compared to threads like this, people bitching and moaning about the site and harking back to the good old days You need the nutters along with the people that addd real values, its the spice of life

reply to post by EMPIRE
You are probably right.

99.9% of the ATS'ers claiming they are messengers of ETS, and the rest of it are illusions of grandure, lying or insane.

However (and this is a big however).........What if just 1% of any of these posts are on the level?

Somethings up, somethings not quite right with the total picture of "reality" we have been fed.

You forget, we are all timeless, limitless, multi dimensional beings having a physical "3 d" experience.

The true wonders of our universe, timelines, timewaves, paralle worlds and other dimensions are staggering. Some so vast our puny 3d limited minds cannot conceive of.

Who are you to judge - the one "silly thread" you might choose to over look or ridicule could be another piece of the puzzel to figure out what the sam hill is going on.

A thousand years ago if a person suggested that the earth was not the center of our known universe they could and often were hung or burned at the stake.

The link below is a very interesting read called "What You Can't Say"

I give you only a fraction of this article below.

www.paulgraham.com...

If you could travel back in a time machine, one thing would be true no matter where you went: you'd have to watch what you said. Opinions we consider harmless could have gotten you in big trouble. I've already said at least one thing that would have gotten me in big trouble in most of Europe in the seventeenth century, and did get Galileo in big trouble when he said it-- that the earth moves. [1]

It seems to be a constant throughout history: In every period, people believed things that were just ridiculous, and believed them so strongly that you would have gotten in terrible trouble for saying otherwise.

Is our time any different? To anyone who has read any amount of history, the answer is almost certainly no. It would be a remarkable coincidence if ours were the first era to get everything just right.

It's tantalizing to think we believe things that people in the future will find ridiculous. What would someone coming back to visit us in a time machine have to be careful not to say? That's what I want to study here. But I want to do more than just shock everyone with the heresy du jour. I want to find general recipes for discovering what you can't say, in any era.

ATS is a place where some people can go to explore timelines, timewaves, alien abduction, politics, other dimensions and others go to expand their writing skills in science fiction.

But, and heres another big but........Jules Verne wrote about a nuclear sub more than 100 years before it came about. Was he just writing "fiction" or did he tap into "the universal knowledge".

What is time? Is there time? Is time the 4th dimension?


You might want to read some of Dolores Cannon's books, "Keepers of the Garden", "The Custodians" and "The Convoulted Universe".

Possibly we are all a part of a whole and on a subconscious level all have access to the "universal knowledge" data bank.

Possibly at the other end of your screen is a nuclear physicists who cannot disclose publically so he/she is using this site as a message board that he is working with little green men.

For that matter, the next thread could have been started by a person/entity not born on Earth. You never know........

Yes many of the postings sound very far fetched, but if history has shown, some of the most outlandish claims today were shown to have a base in reality years later.

There is also the possiblity that our true innerness is a lot more powerful than we have been led to believe.

Can we create reality with our vision?

You can never tell what information you will find on ATS.

Like everything else you have to pick through a lot of garbage before you find treasure, but there is a lot of good information (Like timelines and timewaves) to be found and new ideas to explore.

Remember, a proud heart and closed mind gathers no knowledge - OfHumandescent



Live long & prosper.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by ofhumandescent]

reply to post by ATS4dummies
Good reply.

I have noticed that as more of the mods that are chosen are right wing fundamentalists ATS is closing off / deleting more and more of the real interesting threads.

Removing information just because it does not correspond with their beliefs sucks because it limits drastically the information one gets.

Get the information while you can folks, the real information is threatening to the "powers that be" and so they are closing in.

Can't have the monkeys getting too smart.

Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

 

www.abovetopsecret.com...
There is a good one and any thread done by this guy is always good for a laugh. I took his avatar just for lulz when he got B&
www.abovetopsecret.com...
he thought he was a commander of the "ashtar command" I do not remember what thread it was but i told him i was dictator and demoted him it was pretty funny. But he did not think so.
Those threads are usually in the grey area or skunkworks and sometimes the trash bin, but the mods wont let us in that last one.

[edit on 3-12-2009 by zaiger]

These are brilliant!! I love the fact that in the first one, everyone's like "what are you talking about you crazy, crazy person?" and then at the end (I skipped to it, obviously at 100 pages), people are actually starting to agree with the nut ball!

I personally tend to enjoy reading the these completely insane threads, if only for entertainment's reason. There was a good one yesterday by someone claiming to work for a government organisation, scanning web sites. The video evidence he gave was hilariously inept!

Keep them coming I say, we could all do with a good laugh from time to time.

Oops, double post, sorry.

[edit on 4-12-2009 by nik1halo]

Look, this site is run by a disinfo agent, populated by american kids who want to be Fox Mulder and usually just a good place to get a good laugh at the general views expressed!! But theres the odd bit of news thats worth checking in for, I just don't read any replies anymore as its just a lot of bickering kids who think theyr'e experts in everything!!
Peace!

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


Yes, but when there is to much noise , we can't find the true information : and that what they want maybe.

No disrespect TS but despite having an account here for awhile your contribution level is almost non existent.

Regardless i think that this is some kind of co-ordinated attack on this site. These threads are popping up daily lately and they don't get many flags or stars so i relegate them to the dustbin where they belong.

If you don't like the site and want mainstream stuff then go to Belowtopsecret if you don't like that then just leave. It is really that simple. Just leave the site. I haven't noticed any change in the site since i joined sure somethings change but i just don't see anything different.

In fact the only difference is that we have much fewer debunkers because most of the horrible conspiracies turn out to be true these days. Maybe it is the ineffectiveness of debunkers this past year that has caused all these attacks on how the site is operating.

hmmm

Why watch mindless c##p on t.v , when you can read it here ?


The pleiadian channelers are the best ! LOL

... but then again , there are some incredibly detailed and informative
posts , here and there , so it all evens out .

I have chosen lots of friends here , and almost every other poster
has an ignore warning attached , and I've never hit the ignore button !