ClimateGate = Shameful Dark Day for Science

It's getting worse for Team Gore & Friends.
Harvard University Climate Researcher Willie Soon.
Email Stalking??- Social Snubs??- Threats of Harm??=Red Flag



[edit on 1-12-2009 by Eurisko2012]

Nice post. I hope it's not too late. Copenhagen Conference is in two weeks.

You know, people talk about how it's impossible to suppress a certain amount of information from the general public, but here we have it.

If a group of people were able to do this re: global warming, what are they able to do about some more serious and curious topics?

They've THROWN OUT data so that it's not possible for data to be correlated any longer.

Shameful is too soft of a word for this.

It just shows how they just think we all are just ignorant as we did not get the same education as them. The arrogance of people that into these positions is beyond belief.

I think tv, has helped these people so much, as tv seems to be a medium where people just accept things so much faster if they are said on tv.

Look how they gave no time to ron paul, and made obama non stop on air.

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Thank God for that hacker. The ends clearly justifies the means.
That hacker has saved millions of jobs.
Those elitist PHDs should be thrown in prison for collusion.
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It looks like the MSM is trying to ignore this story just like AcornGate.
When the White House comments on it the MSM will play catch up.

I'm glad the conspiracy has been revealed.
Regarding the Hacker. I hope he (or she) remains anonymous for the sake of their safety.
I'm sure there is a concerted effort underway to identify them.

Please show evidence that every study supporting global warming was skewed or falsified. A few studies that had questionable results or the activities of a few individuals does not automatically make the results of every study null and void.

Originally posted by Kaploink
Please show evidence that every study supporting global warming was skewed or falsified. A few studies that had questionable results or the activities of a few individuals does not automatically make the results of every study null and void.

With all due respect, it is going to be near impossible to do what ask since it appears that the scientists evidently dumped their data.

I guess we will just have to take their word for it since scientists of their caliber are above reproach.

They have come up with every possible excuse for concealing the background data on which their findings and temperature records were based. This in itself has become a major scandal, not least Dr Jones's refusal to release the basic data from which the CRU derives its hugely influential temperature record, which culminated last summer in his startling claim that much of the data from all over the world had simply got "lost". Most incriminating of all are the emails in which scientists are advised to delete large chunks of data, which, when this is done after receipt of a freedom of information request, is a criminal offence.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

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yeah, dump the data.
No evidence. No crime.
We lied?
OK, prove it.

Originally posted by Ecidemon
Shameful is too soft of a word for this.

Unfortunately "fraudulent" or "criminal" seems to be a little difficult to publicly say as of yet.

Remember the Korean geneticist who cloned Snuppy the dog in 2005? He was embroiled in bioethical scandal and was dismissed from his university. Investigators found that Snuppy actually was a cloned dog, but all the associated genetics experiments and data were counterfeit.

Fake. A mass of violations. A circus.

At the center of the controversy there was a real cloned dog. Swirling around the animal was a whirlwind of lies, falsehoods, exaggerations, accusations, opinions, threats, campaigns and conjecture.

Just so, we know that the climate is changing on planet Earth. That is the kernel of data we accept, okay?

Now, here comes a whirlwind of manmade global warming lies, falsehoods, exaggerations, accusations, opinions, threats, campaigns and conjecture, and with a decidedly political bias.

Do you see a pattern of behavior on the part of the modern Scientific community?

They're taking a shred of truth and founding an entire economy on it.

— Doc Velocity






[edit on 12/2/2009 by Doc Velocity]

Doc Velocity

You are so correct! One kernel of truth and some activist jumps on it, exaggerates it, publishes it, demands money for more studies, other scientists expand on it to get the grant money - some industry somewhere is vilified, any dissenting opinion is quashed as being industry funded....activists demand more money, something is banned, we get taxed, government powers are expanded....yada yada

Its time to put an end to JUNK SCIENCE!

TIRED OF CONTROL FREAKS