what made the universe!

Ok so we all want to know what made the universe right? .. WRONG

Lets take a tour shall we of this question...

(1) We as Humans have NO idea why we are here or why it was in fact we was created..

(2) We have fears about what comes after LIFE ect ect

(3) We as a race wish to UNDERSTAND everything / every aspect of life.. tho we do confuse life with being here..

So we have being here, as our main thing, then we have being LIFEFORMS so? what does this all in fact mean?.. and how would it relate to the "what made" the universe question..

If one is to understand and look close at ones self you will see clear that we are replicating our self

Not as lifeforms but as LIFE its self ..

what is LIFE? and why should it play any role in our universe?

if you look at the universe at the time of the big bang... what would make a SOMETING from NOTHING?

Well i make something from nothing all the time! i make choices .. if indeed we came from "nothing" that nothing is still a paramater that needs to be factored into math.. The idiots say NOTHING or string theory

When the fact is they do not want to tell you ur as special as a rock..

why do i say that? because the rock was made by the very same force that made you?

BUT>> Because you equate YOURSELF with being here + life it gets all abit ODD does it not?

so what made the universe is very much the answer to the debate and muddle we find our self in..

Once you understand the question the answer becomes clear

We MADE the univese because its only RELITIVE to US

; )

simple

I agree with some of that, as i think we all live in our own world. So in practise how does that relate to others and the whole universe.

The fact that the big bang theory came from male ejaculation, shows that we all do live in our own worlds.

reply to post by andy1033


its about us as a whole.. we do have our own "outlook" in life but we are all the sum of the same part.

Without US there IS NO universe to TRY and understand.. so what should we do ? understand the observer or understand the outcome of the observation.

Very simple .. do not look out but look within.. both are one of the same

That is why the universe has no shape.. just like your mind for if it did it would be finite in its nature

= no us no universe..

God uses wormholes/blackholes to create.



see it here.
www.youtube.com...

First the universe.

Then a smaller series of wormholes, generated artificially and naturally, brought us here as well. From where, i have no idea.

Artificially created wormholes, known as the nun to the egyptians, the abzu to the sumerians, the abyss and bottomless pit in the bible, mt. meru or mt. sumeru to the hindus, etc, gave birth to the "gods"

We were ejected from a wormhole gate, called the gate of eden in biblical texts. Ejected from where, again i have no clue. i just follow the bread crumb trails.

Something about these questions made me think of how every other living thing apart from humans actually help this planet grow and prosper.

Every living thing on earth has a purpose to earth except humans. Humans destroy the earth but every other living creature tries to keep it sustained.

reply to post by spy66


now you understand.. you see the reason for the destruction is in fact just humans not being happy with the gift of life

What is it we seek? we WANT to know WHY WHY WHY..

what for? so we can become god? what happens if we find him/her/it?

then what? we all sing cum by yar? sorry to burst the bubble but that aint gunna happen

The gift its self is the answer to all the questions as there is only one answer to it

Why am i alive?

because someone els was asking me to be.. in a reltive turm so to speak.

Life is the repoduction of the universe we are inside as a proponte of it

shapes symmetry ect is as clear as day..

we are the very same thing the universe is in that respect, yes we are tiny and yes we even have a multiverse

multiverse aka M theory is just bein here..

In a universe i could be a cat or a tree.. but here i sit with cats and trees?

what role do they have? think deep and relax

Life has never been about being human.. life is a bi product of the universe OR one of its main if not the only way to SELF REPLICATE a totaly new one

kinda heavy? well not really.. i mean the numbers speak for them self

Probiblity of being alive 0. infinity

Proiblity of everyting eles 1

why?

because you make it happen by being here ; )

in some twisted ironic way WE created the universe and will continue to shape it as we see fit..

Pfft... Everyone knows that nothing exploded then the universe was formed.

Happy Dust!

reply to post by Ghost in the Machine


haha

sorry star for u!! couldnt help it

reply to post by 13579


I always knew that my happy dust worked.

Turtles are cool.

What made the universe ? That which was before the universe and not a part of the universe though the universe was and is part of Him. God.

What made life ? Life is not made nor created but rather given. The physical form was made, was created, but then He, God gave life to the form He created, and it became a living being.

Why are we here and what is the purpose of man ? To glorify the Creator as part of His creation, and to receive sonship through His Son Jesus Christ who is the express image of the invisible God.


From the Holy Bible - John 1:1-4

In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

Originally posted by Fromabove
What made the universe ? That which was before the universe and not a part of the universe though the universe was and is part of Him. God.

What made life ? Life is not made nor created but rather given. The physical form was made, was created, but then He, God gave life to the form He created, and it became a living being.

Why are we here and what is the purpose of man ? To glorify the Creator as part of His creation, and to receive sonship through His Son Jesus Christ who is the express image of the invisible God.


From the Holy Bible - John 1:1-4



In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

well thats cleared it all up nicely, i'll put those science text books away. I never understood the long words anyway

I beleive that everything is one and one is everything, meaning we are all God and He/She whatever, is us, we are all pieces of him/her/it in physical forms because we are trying to understand our/His existence....wrap your head around that one. Before it was only one being one conciousness, right, alone in the universe. That conciousness thought, why am I here: he answered himself, the answer to create/ we are here to create, he was here to create, so He did, by seperating his conciousness into smaller parts and other life forms, and he keeps it going, cause frankly, it's boring to be alone out there, with nothing to do, so He continues to create, we continue to create. It's more of an unstoppable urge, because otherwise, what would thought do? It would be idle, and idle is no fun at all.

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Sorry, But how do you know that your God created the universe? Are you sure it wasnt Allah, or Lord Brahma. Its best not to refer to a single religious text whilst discussing creation.

Originally posted by Ghost in the Machine
reply to post by Fromabove

 

Sorry, But how do you know that your God created the universe? Are you sure it wasnt Allah, or Lord Brahma. Its best not to refer to a single religious text whilst discussing creation.

Nah... I'm sure it was my God, after all it He that I believe in not allah.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by Fromabove
What made the universe ? That which was before the universe and not a part of the universe though the universe was and is part of Him. God.

What made life ? Life is not made nor created but rather given. The physical form was made, was created, but then He, God gave life to the form He created, and it became a living being.

Why are we here and what is the purpose of man ? To glorify the Creator as part of His creation, and to receive sonship through His Son Jesus Christ who is the express image of the invisible God.


From the Holy Bible - John 1:1-4



In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

well thats cleared it all up nicely, i'll put those science text books away. I never understood the long words anyway

Take those books right back off the shelf. Science agrees with the Bible more than you think. It's just the unproven stuff like evolution that tends to cloud things up a little.

reply to post by Fromabove


It was a general question. No offence but I did not ask for your personal opinion. I wanted facts etc to back your claims up.

*no offences intended*

reply to post by 13579


I dont know. Human life is as every other life. Life is to live. I would say we are borne with a gift. The gift to think and make choices. This ability is also our burden.

I did not choose to be born. But i am a result of my parents actions. My parents couldn't chose if i was to be a Girl or a Boy. Nor could they chose my personality. I was borne with my own mind.
I can chose my own destruction. Other living creatures cant. Their mind is set on survival and reproduction. And nothing else. Animals dont have the ability to increase their knowledge. They can only perfect their skills of hunting. But they can never create the knowledge of using tools. Their need for a bigger house or the use of mechanical transportation is not even a question. That knowledge dont even exist to them. Even though they observe us every day.


Now what made everything?

Everything must have come from Non existence "Nothingness".
Infinity must exist or we can not exist. Nothingness is that infinity. But what is nothingness?
We think Nothingness is Zero. But all that means is that it dosent exist as existence. To us everything that "Is" is existence. Everything else would be Non existence. And that is quite logic. We can only observe existence. Because we exist.

Existence is Finite. Existence changes all the time. And it changes in the infinite space of Non existence. And that to is quite logic. We dont know the future. Its still Non exiting, but we know it will come right on time.



[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by 13579
Ok so we all want to know what made the universe right? .. WRONG

Lets take a tour shall we of this question...

(1) We as Humans have NO idea why we are here or why it was in fact we was created..

(2) We have fears about what comes after LIFE ect ect

(3) We as a race wish to UNDERSTAND everything / every aspect of life.. tho we do confuse life with being here..

So we have being here, as our main thing, then we have being LIFEFORMS so? what does this all in fact mean?.. and how would it relate to the "what made" the universe question..

If one is to understand and look close at ones self you will see clear that we are replicating our self

Not as lifeforms but as LIFE its self ..

what is LIFE? and why should it play any role in our universe?

if you look at the universe at the time of the big bang... what would make a SOMETING from NOTHING?

Well i make something from nothing all the time! i make choices .. if indeed we came from "nothing" that nothing is still a paramater that needs to be factored into math.. The idiots say NOTHING or string theory

When the fact is they do not want to tell you ur as special as a rock..

why do i say that? because the rock was made by the very same force that made you?

BUT>> Because you equate YOURSELF with being here + life it gets all abit ODD does it not?

so what made the universe is very much the answer to the debate and muddle we find our self in..

Once you understand the question the answer becomes clear

We MADE the univese because its only RELITIVE to US

; )

simple

Rubbish, this planet is 72% water, so obviously the dolphins are the true creators of the universe as this planet is more suited to their existence than ours. The amount of space they have in which to live compared to us is immensely more vast. Silly humans thinking their above the creator dolphins.

reply to post by ldyserenity


I like that post and the urge my friend is a question and it manifests in many ways phyical and not..

The universe is a physical question of epicness

the outcome of this was indeed life and we all know what life does right?

repoduces ; ) it keeps the question going in order for it to all work!

star for you

reply to post by sirnex


I think you confuse being human with LIFE

let me point it out again

LIFE is NOT being HUMAN life is a FUNCTION of the UNIVERSE

get it?

Being ALIVE, brings with it PRECEPTION aka YOUR REALITY...

now to confuse the both as you did with your dolphin thing is kinda silly.. and shows you have no clue on the subject matter at hand.

alive
life
preception
created
why
outcome
reason

all the words above are related and why?

because you are here..

If you want to be closer to YOUR creator .. then just look in the mirror

why do i say that? because one thing is mission and that is the understanding of the methord of creation not the outcome.

go look outside at nature or take them blinders off .. every single shape you see is what? symmetric correct? has some kinda form? has 2 legs 2 arms has blardy blah

and why the need for that? its called LOGIC that is why.. the other side of the flip is CHAOS and why have chaos? well becuase without it YOU as a preson would NOT function.

chaos is a higher order of logic, and from is results in your mind. You can not see it but if you take the time to be aware of it you can feel it with every word and every number.

Understanding that you are just a simple bunch of particals that are needed to make the universe work can be hard..

But then again jesus walked on water..