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Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by ZombieOctopus
So targeting someone for their race and/or religion is not a hate crime? I thought if you beat up a black man just for being black or a gay man just for being gay that was considered a hate crime according to the laws of this great land. So how is it ok to kick people just for being Jewish? Sound like hate to me.
but we also live in a world, in in that world, quakers is contributing to the endangerment of people, and in that larger context, I believe his behavior needs to be consequated.
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by TrueTruth
A lunitic goes round wanting to give kids three years in the pen without a trial or chance to defend themselves.
Judge jury and jailer.
Still no motive eh!
Shame on you.
Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
How did the kids target the Jews? If they didn't know their last name then what did they do? Look for the fat wallets or the big noses?
Originally posted by Wormwood Squirm
reply to post by TrueTruth
Ya but it's a joke based in truth. The Jews are overwhelmingly well off compared to the rest of us and Jews often have big giant schnauzes
Originally posted by TrueTruth
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by TrueTruth
A lunitic goes round wanting to give kids three years in the pen without a trial or chance to defend themselves.
Judge jury and jailer.
Still no motive eh!
Shame on you.
Good lord. Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said the kids should do jail time. They're kids! I clearly said, IF they were older, this could happen to them. I'd be more in favor of some sort of extended parole type situation, involving a lot of community service, counseling... that kind of stuff. And if they did it again? Expulsion. Again? Juvie.
Their motive? What's the motive EVER behind a race motivated crime? What's the motive for racism in general? I could offer you some guesses based on my study of behaviorism, or my time in education, but it's not only going to be a guess, and it's entirely irrelevent. Your question about this doesn't even make sense. Do we care what the motive for a rape is in order to punish the rapist? Do we care if he raped a particular woman because she's his type, or because he just likes hurting people, or because he just like raping? IT'S IRRELEVENT.
Targeting a person for a crime based on their race (calling it "kick a Jew day" makes that 100% unambiguous) fits the definition of a hate crime.
I don't think you care one lick about the victims, or for that matter, the kids who did the kicking. You're not doing kid a favor by teaching them that things that could get them in serious trouble down the line, are not big deal. That's called shirking responsibility.
[edit on 28-11-2009 by TrueTruth]
[edit on 28-11-2009 by TrueTruth]